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OT: Sandusky's Pension Reinstated

There should be protests in PA over this as well as the delay of justice in the 3 stooges... I'm not kidding even a bit...while Vicks past was horrific it's baffling people got more worked up over that than this mess....

Innocent people don't delay in hopes to run out the clock...
 
I didn't click this link (got burned like that once before, can never be too careful), but if this is valid, someone should file suit. (I'd do it if I were still a PA resident, but since I no longer am, I don't have standing to sue.)
Sadly, I think it's probably the legal conclusion....UNLESS they can provide proof he raped kids while still on the psu payroll. Public pension laws are a bit weird....like Jerry.
 
In case some of you are wondering, the logic behind this is that he wasn't an employee when he committed the crimes.

If you're willing to ignore his office on campus, I guess it's true.

I expect a parade down College Avenue to break out at any moment given the logic behind this.
 
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Sandusky didn't wait to retire before he became a sicko.

But until a victim comes forth and claims that they were victimized while he was still coaching, there's not much that can be done.
 
His wife gets the money? She's just as sick as he is. Not only do we waste money feeding this degenerate monster in prison every day, now he gets his pension money. Also it's basically pointless to argue the point because he's so old, but how do you only get 30-60 years in prison for his crimes when there's people convicted of small drug charges that get life with no parole? I realize in this case like I said almost pointless, but serial child rapists should never, ever get less than life with no chance of parole at the very least.

As for the actual pension, his defense attorney must have done some serious research into his actual pension agreement when he was given emeritus status. For being able to keep an office on campus with that status, quite surprising that doesn't mean technically you are still employed by the university if something like this arises. To me, this only makes this sick freak's "retirement" look shadier.
 
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The sicko Paterno heads are, as expected, saying SEE!! They are constantly taking the defense attorney perspective to defending Paterno's reputation in the public, non-courtroom environment, which of course, is a dead end for them. They think this is 'proof' that Jerry was pure while coaching at Penn State, and only lost his way after retiring from coaching. Stories go back decades of his sick behavior, but until its proven in court, they live with the fantasy that only the EX-coach did anything wrong. As delusional as that is, they actually think they can convince others its true, or even more silly, argue that until anyone can proof it, then it didn't happen.
 
Sandusky didn't wait to retire before he became a sicko.

But until a victim comes forth and claims that they were victimized while he was still coaching, there's not much that can be done.
But.....I thought one just did....like 1988.... annnnnd a judicial ruling which stated it can proceed....making this decision to allow pension particular vomit worthy....disgraceful....there is something wrong in PA....both with this...and the stooges....and whatever other larger scheme it may entail...this is some messy s*it going on....and no that does not make joe a "good guy"....
 
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Sadly, I think it's probably the legal conclusion....UNLESS they can provide proof he raped kids while still on the psu payroll. Public pension laws are a bit weird....like Jerry.
Unfortunately the legal ruling is that you can not retroactively apply laws. I wanted his pension taken away but unfortunately I think the courts ruled correctly on this one. What the court ruled is that the law taking away his pension was not passed until 2004 which was after he was an employee off the university. Therefore they could not retroactively apply it to what occurred when he was an employee in 1998. It make sense in that regard because then it would allow legislatures to create random laws and retroactively apply them to remove pension. For example there is a budget crisis. If they upheld this they could pass a law saying any one civic red of a speeding ticket while an employee forfeits their pension. They could then take away anyone's pension who met that condition.
 
Unfortunately the legal ruling is that you can not retroactively apply laws. I wanted his pension taken away but unfortunately I think the courts ruled correctly on this one. What the court ruled is that the law taking away his pension was not passed until 2004 which was after he was an employee off the university. Therefore they could not retroactively apply it to what occurred when he was an employee in 1998. It make sense in that regard because then it would allow legislatures to create random laws and retroactively apply them to remove pension. For example there is a budget crisis. If they upheld this they could pass a law saying any one civic red of a speeding ticket while an employee forfeits their pension. They could then take away anyone's pension who met that condition.
Very good post and spot on, and thank you!
 
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Unfortunately the legal ruling is that you can not retroactively apply laws. I wanted his pension taken away but unfortunately I think the courts ruled correctly on this one. What the court ruled is that the law taking away his pension was not passed until 2004 which was after he was an employee off the university. Therefore they could not retroactively apply it to what occurred when he was an employee in 1998. It make sense in that regard because then it would allow legislatures to create random laws and retroactively apply them to remove pension. For example there is a budget crisis. If they upheld this they could pass a law saying any one civic red of a speeding ticket while an employee forfeits their pension. They could then take away anyone's pension who met that condition.

100% correct.

"Ex post facto" laws are expressly forbidden in the US Constitution, and our Founding Fathers were wise to include that.

People have to take emotion out of this. Like it or not, Sandusky remains an American citizen and he is protected under the law.
 
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I have a pension for beating his brains in! Too bad paturdo didn’t have the honor to call the police! He should have done more alright!




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Unfortunately the legal ruling is that you can not retroactively apply laws. I wanted his pension taken away but unfortunately I think the courts ruled correctly on this one. What the court ruled is that the law taking away his pension was not passed until 2004 which was after he was an employee off the university. Therefore they could not retroactively apply it to what occurred when he was an employee in 1998. It make sense in that regard because then it would allow legislatures to create random laws and retroactively apply them to remove pension. For example there is a budget crisis. If they upheld this they could pass a law saying any one civic red of a speeding ticket while an employee forfeits their pension. They could then take away anyone's pension who met that condition.
Nope....the pension funds are NOT part of the general fund. Trusteed outside of that mess......poorly designed, underfunded, management issues , but those $$$ aren't accessible for anything but the retirees.
 
100% correct.

"Ex post facto" laws are expressly forbidden in the US Constitution, and our Founding Fathers were wise to include that.

People have to take emotion out of this. Like it or not, Sandusky remains an American citizen and he is protected under the law.

While I agree in the "law" and it's view of the situation, we all know that the ten boys Jerry is sitting in jail for are probably just the tip of the iceberg.

Also, I want to let other Lair members know, I see Michnittlion catching a lot of heat on the BWI board for not being a zealot so if you are one in the same, I have some new found respect for your views when you post over here.
 
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