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OT: Steelers Draft 2025

Fields is the QB they're going to sign. Just a question of how much they overpay for him.
i think this is the play. i dont know that, i'll change my mind 100 times before the draft but as of today, i think that's the best play.

I dont think its great but not much else to do. over pay for Russ? No thanks. Go big on Stafford by giving up a first rd pick and probably more? Hmm, not feeling that.

Daniel Jones is bad, steeler fans would be dumping garbage in his front yard before halloween.. Aaron Rodgers retired 3 years ago but everyone forget to tell him...

again, i just dont know the better plan..
 
i think this is the play. i dont know that, i'll change my mind 100 times before the draft but as of today, i think that's the best play.

I dont think its great but not much else to do. over pay for Russ? No thanks. Go big on Stafford by giving up a first rd pick and probably more? Hmm, not feeling that.

Daniel Jones is bad, steeler fans would be dumping garbage in his front yard before halloween.. Aaron Rodgers retired 3 years ago but everyone forget to tell him...

again, i just dont know the better plan..
I don't think that grasping at straws from year to year is working. If they can be mediocre with a half-dozen QB's over the last five years, they can certainly be mediocre with Fields. We know Fields isn't the answer but there isn't enough talent on this team to win anything more than the bare minimum to stay in the middle of the pack. If the guy can provide a little stability while they accumulate some talent, that wouldn't be the worst thing. It likely won't work out that way but in theory, that's probably their best move.
 
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I almost hope they take Hampton (RB from UNC) in the first round so I can be done with them. Just about done with Pitt football and basketball, so if the Steelers make another colossally stupid move I can just cancel my cable subscription and spend my down time foraging mushrooms or something.
On a semi related note, it is why having Pitt and the Pens on last night at the same time was optimal, so I don't have to waste two nights or time slots watching either.
 
What they can't do is not go hellbent into the draft looking for one position.
They need:
QB (there is no one worthy of a 1st or 2nd rd pick this year)
RB. Deep draft likely they can get a good one in rd 3 or even 4 so no go in Rd 1
WR Not as deep as usual years only a couple worthy of rd 1, so again don't reach if they aren't there
OL Can't pick another 1st rd OL
DL Loaded draft. Could get a good one in rd 1 or 2 or maybe even 3. Prudent to pick at least one.
LB. Blah.
Edge Rusher. If they wouldn't extend Watt, which I wouldn't. that could be a 1st rd pick
CB. Need, but not a deep CB draft, at least in rd 1
S. Same as CB.
Someone would really have to fall for them to take an edge (3-4 OLB type, not a 5-tech) at 21. They have had meetings with a bunch of guys that could fill that role, as well as ILBs, but none that would make sense at 21. But you never know…

Jeanty is a really good player, but I almost hope he isn’t there at 21 to tempt them to take another 1st round RB.
 
You’re going to be disappointed when he’s extended before the season .
how about a sign and trade??


Honestly, i hope it works out. if they sign him and can keep him in line, it would be a feather in Tomlin's cap. something pretty significant especially with Tomlin's inability to handle character issue WRs in the past..
 
I almost hope they take Hampton (RB from UNC) in the first round so I can be done with them. Just about done with Pitt football and basketball, so if the Steelers make another colossally stupid move I can just cancel my cable subscription and spend my down time foraging mushrooms or something.
On a serious note he’d be a great later round pick like 4th or 5th if he lasts that long
 
Someone would really have to fall for them to take an edge (3-4 OLB type, not a 5-tech) at 21. They have had meetings with a bunch of guys that could fill that role, as well as ILBs, but none that would make sense at 21. But you never know…

Jeanty is a really good player, but I almost hope he isn’t there at 21 to tempt them to take another 1st round RB.
I think 4-3 is now the way to go. Amazing how things circle back.
 
On a serious note he’d be a great later round pick like 4th or 5th if he lasts that long

I don't think there's any chance of that. I've seen a few recent mocks with us taking him in the first.

I would think that even if for some ridiculous reason they did want to take a RB in the first they would have to know how the fans would perceive that and, although they probably shouldn't be influenced by fans, let that deter them from doing so.

They do need to find a back with home run speed, though. For as difficult as scoring is for them, it's just another avenue they need to open.
 
I don't think there's any chance of that. I've seen a few recent mocks with us taking him in the first.

I would think that even if for some ridiculous reason they did want to take a RB in the first they would have to know how the fans would perceive that and, although they probably shouldn't be influenced by fans, let that deter them from doing so.

They do need to find a back with home run speed, though. For as difficult as scoring is for them, it's just another avenue they need to open.
Most mocks are total garbage but to your point sounds like he’ll go in the 2nd or 3rd.

the Steelers have far bigger needs than an Rb but it wouldn’t surprise me if they took a back too early (before the 4th round )

I’d like to see them upgrade the TE position. Thag kid from UPS is the real deal. But I suspect he’ll go before the Steelers draft in round 1
 
Most mocks are total garbage but to your point sounds like he’ll go in the 2nd or 3rd.

the Steelers have far bigger needs than an Rb but it wouldn’t surprise me if they took a back too early (before the 4th round )

I’d like to see them upgrade the TE position. Thag kid from UPS is the real deal. But I suspect he’ll go before the Steelers draft in round 1

Only thing that makes me suspicious about him is that he did very little for three years before all of a sudden becoming Mr. Versatility this past season. That said, TE might be even more of a luxury pick for the Steelers than RB this year. Friermuth is at least "decent." I personally think they would be nuts to take anything except DL, CB, or WR in the first three rounds - in any order.
 
I don't think there's any chance of that. I've seen a few recent mocks with us taking him in the first.

I would think that even if for some ridiculous reason they did want to take a RB in the first they would have to know how the fans would perceive that and, although they probably shouldn't be influenced by fans, let that deter them from doing so.

They do need to find a back with home run speed, though. For as difficult as scoring is for them, it's just another avenue they need to open.
Yeah, 21 seems rich for Hampton, but he probably gets picked day 2. They are kicking the tires on Ollie Gordon, who they might be able to get in the 4th or 5th though.
 
how about a sign and trade??


Honestly, i hope it works out. if they sign him and can keep him in line, it would be a feather in Tomlin's cap. something pretty significant especially with Tomlin's inability to handle character issue WRs in the past..
That’s not how the NFL works
Since dead cap space would remain with the original team .
 
It’s insanity to keep trying to rehab failed Bears QBs
He does nothing well as a qb
Steelers aren't in a position to acquire someone who can do things well a QB in the Steelers offense. They don't have the cap space to sign a quality veteran, even if there was one out there to sign. They also don't have anything on that offense that makes it attractive to a good QB. They don't have the fortitude or the capital to make a bold move in the draft if there was a QB that made sense to pursue that way. They're sort of up the creek so Fields is likely the best option that will be affordable enough to lock up for a few years while they try to figure something out. Of course, they're not looking at it this way because they're still convinced they can win, now, but will assess Fields as the best option for winning.
 
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Steelers aren't in a position to acquire someone who can do things well a QB in the Steelers offense. They don't have the cap space to sign a quality veteran, even if there was one out there to sign. They also don't have anything on that offense that makes it attractive to a good QB. They don't have the fortitude or the capital to make a bold move in the draft if there was a QB that made sense to pursue that way. They're sort of up the creek so Fields is likely the best option that will be affordable enough to lock up for a few years while they try to figure something out. Of course, they're not looking at it this way because they're still convinced they can win, now, but will assess Fields as the best option for winning.
yeah, i get Souf's skepticism on Fields but man, what else is out there? Someone has to play QB. it's either him or Russ, give up a first rd pick and go after an aging Stafford, roll the dice with a 41 year old Rodgers, hope Daniel Jones isnt as horrible as everyone on this planet thinks he is or hope you find the next tom brady later in the draft..

who else is there, Darnold? Minshew lol. those arrent even options at this point.. talk the pats into trading someone like Milton away.. again, long shots to say the least..



i mean, any and every option we have has warts. there is no clear answer. no matter who we pick, 50% of the steeler fan base will hate it.
 
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Steelers aren't in a position to acquire someone who can do things well a QB in the Steelers offense. They don't have the cap space to sign a quality veteran, even if there was one out there to sign. They also don't have anything on that offense that makes it attractive to a good QB. They don't have the fortitude or the capital to make a bold move in the draft if there was a QB that made sense to pursue that way. They're sort of up the creek so Fields is likely the best option that will be affordable enough to lock up for a few years while they try to figure something out. Of course, they're not looking at it this way because they're still convinced they can win, now, but will assess Fields as the best option for winning.
Of course they are -
Cap space isn’t an issue .
If it is - don’t extend watt
 
yeah, i get Souf's skepticism on Fields but man, what else is out there? Someone has to play QB. it's either him or Russ, give up a first rd pick and go after an aging Stafford, roll the dice with a 41 year old Rodgers, hope Daniel Jones isnt as horrible as everyone on this planet thinks he is or hope you find the next tom brady later in the draft..

who else is there, Darnold? Minshew lol. those arrent even options at this point.. talk the pats into trading someone like Milton away.. again, long shots to say the least..



i mean, any and every option we have has warts. there is no clear answer. no matter who we pick, 50% of the steeler fan base will hate it.

Fields is perfect, honestly. Cheap bridge guy with tools - so there's also a chance, albeit very small, that he becomes a legitimately good QB in this league. He won't; I'm just saying there's a chance.

We have about $60M in cap space, so there is a bit of leeway to do something very stupid. Luckily, there isn't really anyone out there who would command a huge long-term contract. Like, I'm pretty sure the Falcons/Saints would have to eat a bunch of money if we went after Cousins/Carr, for example.

But we need to just take our lumps with Fields until we can draft the next guy.
 
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yeah, i get Souf's skepticism on Fields but man, what else is out there? Someone has to play QB. it's either him or Russ, give up a first rd pick and go after an aging Stafford, roll the dice with a 41 year old Rodgers, hope Daniel Jones isnt as horrible as everyone on this planet thinks he is or hope you find the next tom brady later in the draft..

who else is there, Darnold? Minshew lol. those arrent even options at this point.. talk the pats into trading someone like Milton away.. again, long shots to say the least..



i mean, any and every option we have has warts. there is no clear answer. no matter who we pick, 50% of the steeler fan base will hate it.
Kahn created the mess .
We could have at least had a qb in the system for a year in Kenny -
So we essentially traded 2 years of kenny for 1 year of fields as a backup .
It was idiotic from the jump.

You just need a journey man qb for awhile .
I rather have Brissett, mariota , Wentz , garoppolo , Winston or Heinecke for a few years than doubling down on stupid with fields !
 
Kahn created the mess .
We could have at least had a qb in the system for a year in Kenny -
So we essentially traded 2 years of kenny for 1 year of fields as a backup .
It was idiotic from the jump.

You just need a journey man qb for awhile .
I rather have Brissett, mariota , Wentz , garoppolo , Winston or Heinecke for a few years than doubling down on stupid with fields !

The only thing any of those guys have on Fields is that we haven't had the privilege of seeing them suck firsthand. They're all legitimately awful.
 
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Steelers aren't in a position to acquire someone who can do things well a QB in the Steelers offense. They don't have the cap space to sign a quality veteran, even if there was one out there to sign. They also don't have anything on that offense that makes it attractive to a good QB. They don't have the fortitude or the capital to make a bold move in the draft if there was a QB that made sense to pursue that way. They're sort of up the creek so Fields is likely the best option that will be affordable enough to lock up for a few years while they try to figure something out. Of course, they're not looking at it this way because they're still convinced they can win, now, but will assess Fields as the best option for winning.
Good post but to sum it up what you’re saying is beggars can’t be choosers
 
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I rather have Brissett, mariota , Wentz , garoppolo , Winston or Heinecke for a few years than doubling down on stupid with fields !
those names make me vomit.. i dont even know who the F heinecke is. never heard that name. is mariota still in the league?


are we really debating between Jacoby Brissett, Justin fields and jameis Winston lol. wasnt Winston coaching high school football 4 months ago?

Things are really that bad in steeler land?
 
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Good post but to sum it up what you’re saying is beggars can’t be choosers
One thing I do know is that Fields isn't coming back unless he's the starter. Pretty sure that will be a condition because an "open competition" screwed him over when Tomlin just inserted Wilson right after Fields tore the Raiders a new one. Or maybe the Rooney's made Tomlin do it. I get confused over who is actually in charge.
 
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One thing I do know is that Fields isn't coming back unless he's the starter. Pretty sure that will be a condition because an "open competition" screwed him over when Tomlin just inserted Wilson right after Fields tore the Raiders a new one. Or maybe the Rooney's made Tomlin do it. I get confused over who is actually in charge.
Bye then
Someone else can also have the Steelers offense scoring less than 20 just like he did.
 
One thing I do know is that Fields isn't coming back unless he's the starter. Pretty sure that will be a condition because an "open competition" screwed him over when Tomlin just inserted Wilson right after Fields tore the Raiders a new one. Or maybe the Rooney's made Tomlin do it. I get confused over who is actually in charge.
Agreed. And truth is Steelers don’t have many other options other than deeply flawed qbs like crab legs Winston. And a turnover machine like Winston ain’t going to fly with mediocre Mike.

As far as who is in charge here’s the answer key. When things go well it’s the HOF coach whose brilliance drove the decision. If it doesn’t reflect well on said coach it’s Rooneys fault
 
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Kahn created the mess .
We could have at least had a qb in the system for a year in Kenny -
So we essentially traded 2 years of kenny for 1 year of fields as a backup .
It was idiotic from the jump.

You just need a journey man qb for awhile .
I rather have Brissett, mariota , Wentz , garoppolo , Winston or Heinecke for a few years than doubling down on stupid with fields !
I know you are not going to like this, but how much pull do you think Khan has? This is Mike Tomlin and Art II's team and franchise. They make all the calls.
 
I know you are not going to like this, but how much pull do you think Khan has? This is Mike Tomlin and Art II's team and franchise. They make all the calls.
He has the same pull as Tomlin
They both answer to Art.
This idiotic narrative that Tomlin is the defacto GM is just that
 
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