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Don't show this to Ski, he says they play great D in the NBA regular season.

Yes. Because one single clip is indicative of the entire game. You’re a moron. Try watching an NBA game.

They play D in the NBA. The difference is what you confuse as good D in college is actually just a bunch of offensively inept scrubs.

The only people who routinely complain about the NBA having no D are people who never watch and/or don’t understand basketball. So that’s very on brand for you.
 
Yes. Because one single clip is indicative of the entire game. You’re a moron. Try watching an NBA game.

They play D in the NBA. The difference is what you confuse as good D in college is actually just a bunch of offensively inept scrubs.

The only people who routinely complain about the NBA having no D are people who never watch and/or don’t understand basketball. So that’s very on brand for you.
They play some D in the NBA, but they certainly weren't putting any effort into D on that play.
 
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People from Pittsburgh LOVE to talk about how much they hate the NBA. It’s kind’ve strange.

And that wasn’t a travel.
Forget about the non-existent D in the clip. That was practically a coast to coast travel. Please tell me you weren't serious.
 
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Forget about the non-existent D in the clip. That was practically a coast to coast travel. Please tell me you weren't serious.

You don’t get two steps after your last dribble. You get two steps after you’ve officially “gathered”. You can see LeBron delays actually catching his dribble for the slightest moment to gather so that he took two long steps for the dunk.

It’s not a travel. Just because they’d call it that in youth leagues at the YMCA or in a WPIAL game doesn’t make it one.
 
You don’t get two steps after your last dribble. You get two steps after you’ve officially “gathered”. You can see LeBron delays actually catching his dribble for the slightest moment to gather so that he took two long steps for the dunk.

It’s not a travel. Just because they’d call it that in youth leagues at the YMCA or in a WPIAL game doesn’t make it one.

The last time the ball hit the floor was inside the midcourt logo, about 6 feet inside of midcourt. I'm sorry but James did not cover 40 feet with no dribbles without traveling.
 
The last time the ball hit the floor was inside the midcourt logo, about 6 feet inside of midcourt. I'm sorry but James did not cover 40 feet with no dribbles without traveling.

It is completely irrelevant where the last time the ball hits the floor is... look where he actually gathers. That occurs inside the 3 point line and then he takes two long, exaggerated steps.

It’s black and white, within the rules, not a travel. I know you stubborn NBA haters can’t get it through your heads but... that’s the truth.
 
People from Pittsburgh LOVE to talk about how much they hate the NBA. It’s kind’ve strange.

And that wasn’t a travel.
Nah. It’s not strange. It’s because Pittsburgh doesn’t have an NBA franchise. They’d rip the NHL too for being dreadful if they didn’t have a franchise that’s been a face of the NHL for 2 generations. And when they rip the NBA for no defense based on some clips they see on the Internet, it reminds me of the things they say about soccer because they see clips of an occasional South American footballer rolling around on the ground trying to draw a penalty. It’s just ignorance because they don’t watch the game every day or every week.

As far as the travel, it’s why I placed a question mark in the thread title and thought it would be interesting to post. I wasn’t sure it was as cut and dry as the clip appeared. I see both sides of the argument.
 
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Don't show this to Ski, he says they play great D in the NBA regular season.
When I first saw it, my first reaction was that it was a meaningless play at the end of a game after the game was decided. But after watching it again, would you take that charge?
 
It is completely irrelevant where the last time the ball hits the floor is... look where he actually gathers. That occurs inside the 3 point line and then he takes two long, exaggerated steps.

It’s black and white, within the rules, not a travel. I know you stubborn NBA haters can’t get it through your heads but... that’s the truth.
Looked like 3 to me tbh.
He only took 4 steps. Get off his back.
 
You don’t get two steps after your last dribble. You get two steps after you’ve officially “gathered”. You can see LeBron delays actually catching his dribble for the slightest moment to gather so that he took two long steps for the dunk.

It’s not a travel. Just because they’d call it that in youth leagues at the YMCA or in a WPIAL game doesn’t make it one.
It's a travel. Come on. I do find it funny the two announcers never mentioned it.
 
It is completely irrelevant where the last time the ball hits the floor is... look where he actually gathers. That occurs inside the 3 point line and then he takes two long, exaggerated steps.

It’s black and white, within the rules, not a travel. I know you stubborn NBA haters can’t get it through your heads but... that’s the truth.

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Coming up with a gameplan to stop AD, Bron, and Schroder is a liiiiiitle bit different than shutting down AKC, X, Toney, Champ and Horton.

The offensive skill level is just so good that it spaces the floor and just puts defenses in such a tough spot.

And sure, in an 82 game season you can find plays where guys make a business decision and take a play off.

I agree. It is very tough to stop these gifted offensive players. So in the regular season, players dont put forth the effort on D to try to stop them. They go through the motions. They know that even if they put max effort on D, it would only r
When I first saw it, my first reaction was that it was a meaningless play at the end of a game after the game was decided. But after watching it again, would you take that charge?

There is a 0% chance LeBron gets a free pass like that in a college basketball game.
 
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It is completely irrelevant where the last time the ball hits the floor is... look where he actually gathers. That occurs inside the 3 point line and then he takes two long, exaggerated steps.

It’s black and white, within the rules, not a travel. I know you stubborn NBA haters can’t get it through your heads but... that’s the truth.

So you are allowed an extra step in the NBA to "gather the ball?" Every other league in the world, that's a travel because he clearly took 3 steps. But you're saying the NBA allows that extra step to gather
 
Yes. Because one single clip is indicative of the entire game. You’re a moron. Try watching an NBA game.

They play D in the NBA. The difference is what you confuse as good D in college is actually just a bunch of offensively inept scrubs.

The only people who routinely complain about the NBA having no D are people who never watch and/or don’t understand basketball. So that’s very on brand for you.
Some of the players and teams are so talented that it is simply impossible to stop them. I have really come to appreciate how talented some of these guys are. I turn on a college game and it really accentuates the difference. There are a lot of great young players that will make the league exciting to watch for years to come.
 
Most sports are instituting/bending rules that benefit the offense to create more scoring, so why would basketball be any different?
 
Most sports are instituting/bending rules that benefit the offense to create more scoring, so why would basketball be any different?
I wish hockey were different. The size and speed of the NHL athlete, along with the size of the rink and size of the goalie equipment have made the game unwatchable for me anymore..until overtime when it’s 3v3.

but to your point, the college hoops game, the way it’s called, it’s fine for me.
 
So you are allowed an extra step in the NBA to "gather the ball?" Every other league in the world, that's a travel because he clearly took 3 steps. But you're saying the NBA allows that extra step to gather

Yes. Yes you are.

 
Nah. It’s not strange. It’s because Pittsburgh doesn’t have an NBA franchise. They’d rip the NHL too for being dreadful if they didn’t have a franchise that’s been a face of the NHL for 2 generations. And when they rip the NBA for no defense based on some clips they see on the Internet, it reminds me of the things they say about soccer because they see clips of an occasional South American footballer rolling around on the ground trying to draw a penalty. It’s just ignorance because they don’t watch the game every day or every week.

As far as the travel, it’s why I placed a question mark in the thread title and thought it would be interesting to post. I wasn’t sure it was as cut and dry as the clip appeared. I see both sides of the argument.

It's because Pittsburgh isn't a city that produces high-level basketball players. Places like Philly aren't into the NBA strictly for the Sixers, they're into it because a lot of people there played basketball and appreciate it beginning at a really early age.

They just don't know what good basketball is because they've never played it. They don't see Embiid putting Andre Drummond on skates and get impressed, they think it's bad defense because they don't know how nearly impossible it is for a 7' to do that.
 
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I agree. It is very tough to stop these gifted offensive players. So in the regular season, players dont put forth the effort on D to try to stop them. They go through the motions. They know that even if they put max effort on D, it would only r


There is a 0% chance LeBron gets a free pass like that in a college basketball game.
Only alvarado gets that treatment

I’ll take the nba refs 100 times out of 100 over the dreadfully inconsistent college ones
 
To be honest, I watch sports to watch players and teams play, not officials be overbearing. What I hate about college basketball is the over officiating, the anticipatory calls, the assumptions like 9/10 crossover attempts is called a travel. The over bearing Charge/Block foul, where if it is 50/50, just don't call anything, Honestly, I don't mind an extra step now and then, just be consistent though also mindful that stars will get benefit of the doubt.
 
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To be honest, I watch sports to watch players and teams play, not officials be overbearing. What I hate about college basketball is the over officiating, the anticipatory calls, the assumptions like 9/10 crossover attempts is called a travel. The over bearing Charge/Block foul, where if it is 50/50, just don't call anything, Honestly, I don't mind an extra step now and then, just be consistent though also mindful that stars will get benefit of the doubt.

I agree with the gist of your post.

But the video in this thread, by the book, is not a travel. I know you’ll just roll your eyes on me, but I’m telling you the truth and what NBA people have backed up on Twitter... now does it look like a travel, and was it called that way for many years? Yes. But players recently have become really, really good at taking advantage of things like this.
 
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Yes. Yes you are.


OK, so the NBA officially allows 3 steps. That's really stupid. What's next? Dribbling being optional?

I know LeBron is otherworldly, but no basketball player should be allowed to run to the rim from midcourt without dribbling. That play alone should prompt a rule change.
 
To be honest, I watch sports to watch players and teams play, not officials be overbearing. What I hate about college basketball is the over officiating, the anticipatory calls, the assumptions like 9/10 crossover attempts is called a travel. The over bearing Charge/Block foul, where if it is 50/50, just don't call anything, Honestly, I don't mind an extra step now and then, just be consistent though also mindful that stars will get benefit of the doubt.

The absolute worst part of college hoops is the over-officiating in the last 2 minutes in blowout losses. If you're down 15+ in the last two minutes, every foul should be double-bonus (or triple if you're already at double). I can't tell you how p*ssed I get watching teams foul and the announcers switch to talking about Tom Brady because the losing team just won't let the game die. Adding 10+ minutes real time to a game like that is horrible for fans.
 
But the video in this thread, by the book, is not a travel. I know you’ll just roll your eyes on me, but I’m telling you the truth and what NBA people have backed up on Twitter... now does it look like a travel, and was it called that way for many years? Yes. But players recently have become really, really good at taking advantage of things like this.
So for those of you that know the NBA rules so well, this is a serious question -- say the refs blew this whistle at half court by calling a reach in foul on #15 in blue ... because of continuation, that's an "and one," right?
 
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