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OT: Unai Emery Best Unknown Manager in Soccer

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I am watching Aston Villa absolutely dismember Newcastle at Villa Park so far (albeit it still is early; they have a goal, have hit two posts and the Newcastle GK has one extraordinary save), and it has occurred to me that he has to be the best little known manager in soccer.

As a Barcelona fan, I love the fact that his career record against them is 1 win and many losses, but his overall success is extraordinary. After a playing career starting in the Basque Country where he was born and playing mostly in the Segunda Division, he retired to manage Third Division Lorca Deportivo and won promotion to the Segunda Division in his first season. He then left for Almería and in his first season they were promoted to La Liga for the first time in their history.

After one season of coaching there, he was hired by Valencia. Once a major power in European football, the club had fallen on hard times. Valencia was a financial mess, with debts totaling more than $400 Million. Emery finished 4th in his first season, returning them to the Champions League. He finished third each of the next two years, despite the team selling their three best players, forward David Villa, midfielder David Silva and striker Juan Mata in consecutive seasons.

Seeing no future there, he left Valencia for, of all teams, Spartak Moscow, and made the Champions League in his one season there before accepting the managerial job at Sevilla. Sevilla were in 12th place in La Liga when Emery took over. He managed to get them into 5th place and qualified for the next Europa League. They won it. They won the next two years as well, although Emery never got them above 5th in La Liga.


He left Sevilla for PSG, the death trap for managers. PSG, of course, is probably the most disappointing team in Europe year after year, winning French trophies while unable to win a European one which its Arab ownership so covets, despite spending far more than any other club. In 4 years, Emery won 9 French trophies but no European ones. He did beat Barcelona for the first time in his career in 2016, winning the first leg of the Champions League quarter final in Paris 4-0. Of course, that was a Pyrrhic victory which set the stage for the remarkable 6-1 Barcelona win in the second leg on the last play of the match goal by Sergio Roberto on a pass off a free kick by Neymar.

He spent the next two seasons at Arsenal. In his first season, Arsenal lost its first two matches but then won 11 in a row to start a 22 match unbeaten streak. However, it collapsed at the end of the season and finished 5th. It made the Europa League final but were beaten by Chelsea.

That off-season, Arsenal/Emery made two of the worst transfer decisions in history: signing CB David Luiz from Chelsea and striker Nicolas Pepe, for whom it paid an astronomical amount. Emery was sacked in November 2019.

In 2020, he was hired by Villareal. This has perhaps been his most amazing success story.
A team in a very small working class city owned by a local ceramics factory owner; a team payroll of $11.5 Million, lower than what Man U pays to Marcus Rashford; under Emery, it qualified for and won the Europa League, in his first season, beating Arsenal in the semis and Man U in the final.

In his second year at Villareal, he led them to a Champions League berth. They made it to the semifinals, beating both Bayern Munich in the round of 16 and Juventus in the quarters. They lost in the semis to Liverpool.

In October 2022, Aston Villa essentially purchased Emery from cash-poor Villareal. Under the fired Steven Gerard, Villa was in 16th place, 2 points above relegation. In his first 17 matches as manager, they have won 11 and moved up to 6th place. Villa Park is SRO for today’s match.

I don’t know if his personality is right for some top flight teams. By all accounts, he is not very likeable and wears out his welcome quickly. But, I can’t think of a manager who has done more with less…and done it so fast.

UPDATE: Villa lead 3-0 in the 85th minute. They have owned midfield, owned possession; allowed only 2 decent scoring chances; and passed as well in the final 3rd as any team I have seen this year. Ollie Watkins has 2 goals on perfect setups from teammates in the box.
 
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What a great hire by the Villains! He really has his squad humming. Ollie Watkins is a great lil EPL secret!

On another note, Bournemouth, boom, 95th minute winner at Spuds! What a fun match to watch! Piss off Spuds, their 2nd goal should never even have counted.

Sorry @Fk_Pitt about your Blues :(. Puli a whisker away from a 1st half goal.

The good guys in West London got to 42 this afternoon and Everton holding on to the longest consecutive top flight reign by goal difference right now.
 
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What a great hire by the Villains! He really has his squad humming. Ollie Watkins is a great lil EPL secret!

On another note, Bournemouth, boom, 95th minute winner at Spuds! What a fun match to watch! Piss off Spuds, their 2nd goal should never even have counted.

Sorry @Fk_Pitt about your Blues :(. Puli a whisker away from a 1st half goal.

The good guys in West London got to 42 this afternoon and Everton holding on to the longest consecutive top flight reign by goal difference right now.
Everton is one of only a small handful of teams never to be relegated from the premier league. This year might end that. I can’t remember the list but you can count it on one hand. Even Man City has been relegated. The list might be down to Arsenal, Man United, Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea.

And Chelsea better be careful. 😬
 
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On another note, Bournemouth, boom, 95th minute winner at Spuds! What a fun match to watch! Piss off Spuds, their 2nd goal should never even have counted.


I do not understand how the VAR could have decided that Kane was not interfering with the play. The ball just missed hitting him, and he was between the path of the ball and the keeper. It seemed so obvious that it had to get overturned.

Bournemouth getting that late goal was simple justice for them nearly getting robbed of two points.
 
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Brighton is good, but wow with Chelsea right now. Maybe they’ll poach Unai?
You know, I thought about him a week or two ago. The guy is a really good manager who knows how to win Cup competitions. He’s won Europa a few times. But his name has never surfaced for the Chelsea job. Maybe because his tenure at arsenal was not good. And Chelsea seems to be where aresenal was 3-5 years ago.
 
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I do not understand how the VAR could have decided that Kane was not interfering with the play. The ball just missed hitting him, and he was between the path of the ball and the keeper. It seemed so obvious that it had to get overturned.

Bournemouth getting that late goal was simple justice for them nearly getting robbed of two points.
I hate that rule. It’s left to the interpretation of the ref. I had it happen to me and it cost me a playoff spot a few years back. My team had a direct kick from about 25 yards out and when the low driven ball was kicked my one player was running parallel between the penalty spot and 6 yard line, and the shot found its way into the goal. I don’t know what my player was even doing in that situation but because she flashed about 5 yards in front of the keeper, the ref from 59 yards away called her offside and disallowed the goal. That’s PIAA refs for ya. But again, not sure what the hell my player was even doing. Lol.
 
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I do not understand how the VAR could have decided that Kane was not interfering with the play. The ball just missed hitting him, and he was between the path of the ball and the keeper. It seemed so obvious that it had to get overturned.

Bournemouth getting that late goal was simple justice for them nearly getting robbed of two points.
Yes, he was closer to Neto than he was to next closest player. Just sayin, if the teams were reversed and that were Dominik Solanke instead of Kane, it woulda been ruled offsides
 
You know, I thought about him a week or two ago. The guy is a really good manager who knows how to win Cup competitions. He’s won Europa a few times. But his name has never surfaced for the Chelsea job. Maybe because his tenure at arsenal was not good. And Chelsea seems to be where aresenal was 3-5 years ago.
Mike laid it out above, very good gaffer
 
I am watching Aston Villa absolutely dismember Newcastle at Villa Park so far (albeit it still is early; they have a goal, have hit two posts and the Newcastle GK has one extraordinary save), and it has occurred to me that he has to be the best little known manager in soccer.

As a Barcelona fan, I love the fact that his career record against them is 1 win and many losses, but his overall success is extraordinary. After a playing career starting in the Basque Country where he was born and playing mostly in the Segunda Division, he retired to manage Third Division Lorca Deportivo and won promotion to the Segunda Division in his first season. He then left for Almería and in his first season they were promoted to La Liga for the first time in their history.

After one season of coaching there, he was hired by Valencia. Once a major power in European football, the club had fallen on hard times. Valencia was a financial mess, with debts totaling more than $400 Million. Emery finished 4th in his first season, returning them to the Champions League. He finished third each of the next two years, despite the team selling their three best players, forward David Villa, midfielder David Silva and striker Juan Mata in consecutive seasons.

Seeing no future there, he left Valencia for, of all teams, Spartak Moscow, and made the Champions League in his one season there before accepting the managerial job at Sevilla. Sevilla were in 12th place in La Liga when Emery took over. He managed to get them into 5th place and qualified for the next Europa League. They won it. They won the next two years as well, although Emery never got them above 5th in La Liga.


He left Sevilla for PSG, the death trap for managers. PSG, of course, is probably the most disappointing team in Europe year after year, winning French trophies while unable to win a European one which its Arab ownership so covets, despite spending far more than any other club. In 4 years, Emery won 9 French trophies but no European ones. He did beat Barcelona for the first time in his career in 2016, winning the first leg of the Champions League quarter final in Paris 4-0. Of course, that was a Pyrrhic victory which set the stage for the remarkable 6-1 Barcelona win in the second leg on the last play of the match goal by Sergio Roberto on a pass off a free kick by Neymar.

He spent the next two seasons at Arsenal. In his first season, Arsenal lost its first two matches but then won 11 in a row to start a 22 match unbeaten streak. However, it collapsed at the end of the season and finished 5th. It made the Europa League final but were beaten by Chelsea.

That off-season, Arsenal/Emery made two of the worst transfer decisions in history: signing CB David Luiz from Chelsea and striker Nicolas Pepe, for whom it paid an astronomical amount. Emery was sacked in November 2019.

In 2020, he was hired by Villareal. This has perhaps been his most amazing success story.
A team in a very small working class city owned by a local ceramics factory owner; a team payroll of $11.5 Million, lower than what Man U pays to Marcus Rashford; under Emery, it qualified for and won the Europa League, in his first season, beating Arsenal in the semis and Man U in the final.

In his second year at Villareal, he led them to a Champions League berth. They made it to the semifinals, beating both Bayern Munich in the round of 16 and Juventus in the quarters. They lost in the semis to Liverpool.

In October 2022, Aston Villa essentially purchased Emery from cash-poor Villareal. Under the fired Steven Gerard, Villa was in 16th place, 2 points above relegation. In his first 17 matches as manager, they have won 11 and moved up to 6th place. Villa Park is SRO for today’s match.

I don’t know if his personality is right for some top flight teams. By all accounts, he is not very likeable and wears out his welcome quickly. But, I can’t think of a manager who has done more with less…and done it so fast.

UPDATE: Villa lead 3-0 in the 85th minute. They have owned midfield, owned possession; allowed only 2 decent scoring chances; and passed as well in the final 3rd as any team I have seen this year. Ollie Watkins has 2 goals on perfect setups from teammates in the box.

I was just talking about him this weekend at the bar while watching games. Really good coach and it's a coup for Villa to have him. From facing relegation to an outside chance at the Champions League

Even the Arsenal fans I talked to didn't think he was bad based on his tenure there.

You're also right about Villareal. La Liga doesn't get much attention in the EPL centric US soccer fandom ( and when they do it's always the big 2) so that story has flown under the radar here
 
I am watching Aston Villa absolutely dismember Newcastle at Villa Park so far (albeit it still is early; they have a goal, have hit two posts and the Newcastle GK has one extraordinary save), and it has occurred to me that he has to be the best little known manager in soccer.

As a Barcelona fan, I love the fact that his career record against them is 1 win and many losses, but his overall success is extraordinary. After a playing career starting in the Basque Country where he was born and playing mostly in the Segunda Division, he retired to manage Third Division Lorca Deportivo and won promotion to the Segunda Division in his first season. He then left for Almería and in his first season they were promoted to La Liga for the first time in their history.

After one season of coaching there, he was hired by Valencia. Once a major power in European football, the club had fallen on hard times. Valencia was a financial mess, with debts totaling more than $400 Million. Emery finished 4th in his first season, returning them to the Champions League. He finished third each of the next two years, despite the team selling their three best players, forward David Villa, midfielder David Silva and striker Juan Mata in consecutive seasons.

Seeing no future there, he left Valencia for, of all teams, Spartak Moscow, and made the Champions League in his one season there before accepting the managerial job at Sevilla. Sevilla were in 12th place in La Liga when Emery took over. He managed to get them into 5th place and qualified for the next Europa League. They won it. They won the next two years as well, although Emery never got them above 5th in La Liga.


He left Sevilla for PSG, the death trap for managers. PSG, of course, is probably the most disappointing team in Europe year after year, winning French trophies while unable to win a European one which its Arab ownership so covets, despite spending far more than any other club. In 4 years, Emery won 9 French trophies but no European ones. He did beat Barcelona for the first time in his career in 2016, winning the first leg of the Champions League quarter final in Paris 4-0. Of course, that was a Pyrrhic victory which set the stage for the remarkable 6-1 Barcelona win in the second leg on the last play of the match goal by Sergio Roberto on a pass off a free kick by Neymar.

He spent the next two seasons at Arsenal. In his first season, Arsenal lost its first two matches but then won 11 in a row to start a 22 match unbeaten streak. However, it collapsed at the end of the season and finished 5th. It made the Europa League final but were beaten by Chelsea.

That off-season, Arsenal/Emery made two of the worst transfer decisions in history: signing CB David Luiz from Chelsea and striker Nicolas Pepe, for whom it paid an astronomical amount. Emery was sacked in November 2019.

In 2020, he was hired by Villareal. This has perhaps been his most amazing success story.
A team in a very small working class city owned by a local ceramics factory owner; a team payroll of $11.5 Million, lower than what Man U pays to Marcus Rashford; under Emery, it qualified for and won the Europa League, in his first season, beating Arsenal in the semis and Man U in the final.

In his second year at Villareal, he led them to a Champions League berth. They made it to the semifinals, beating both Bayern Munich in the round of 16 and Juventus in the quarters. They lost in the semis to Liverpool.

In October 2022, Aston Villa essentially purchased Emery from cash-poor Villareal. Under the fired Steven Gerard, Villa was in 16th place, 2 points above relegation. In his first 17 matches as manager, they have won 11 and moved up to 6th place. Villa Park is SRO for today’s match.

I don’t know if his personality is right for some top flight teams. By all accounts, he is not very likeable and wears out his welcome quickly. But, I can’t think of a manager who has done more with less…and done it so fast.

UPDATE: Villa lead 3-0 in the 85th minute. They have owned midfield, owned possession; allowed only 2 decent scoring chances; and passed as well in the final 3rd as any team I have seen this year. Ollie Watkins has 2 goals on perfect setups from teammates in the box.
Damn I missed this post. Spot on Mike. Yeah the guy is super. Winning Europa for a club in a town with 50K population is kind of why I suggested that Villarreal might be the top flight club that romanticized soccer fans can get behind.

Villa hiring him was perfect. I consider clubs like Villa, New Castle and Leeds big clubs and potential sleeping giants in English football even though they haven’t done much the last few decades if ever. Emery has made Villa relevant, and Saudi money has made New Castle relevant.

As you know my team is a mess. And I’d consider Emery a slam dunk and a safer pick to be manager than someone like a Nagelsmann is. The only question I would have is how he would manage big club players with big egos. I’m not saying he can’t but has he ever? We saw what happened at Arsenal.

And yes, we laughed when Arsenal took David Luiz. Was Emery there with Luiz or was he already gone? One trainwreck Emery had to deal with was Ozul.
 
Emery brought Luiz and Pepe in. Or if it wasn’t his decision, he took the blame for it.

I had never heard of Pepe, but it is hard for me to imagine any good manager bringing David Luiz in to play CB. His only positive quality is that he is a good long distance free kick specialist.

The question about whether Emery can deal with the really big egos is a legitimate one. He really never had to face that issue except at Arsenal. The word around La Liga is that he is a cold fish — very unlikeable and has a big ego, but I’m not sure I believe the second part of that. He certainly doesn’t talk himself up like Mourhino does. The other criticism I have heard is that he loses the team after 3 or 4 years. But, if Chelsea could get 3 great years out of him, it would be worth it. I think dealing with the British press would be tough for him though. It was at Arsenal. Being in Birmingham with Aston Villa probably eases that.

I saw Aston Villa play twice on television before he arrived and they were a mess. Yesterday, it was like a completely different team was there. They ran rings around Newcastle.
 
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Emery brought Luiz and Pepe in. Or if it wasn’t his decision, he took the blame for it.

I had never heard of Pepe, but it is hard for me to imagine any good manager bringing David Luiz in to play CB. His only positive quality is that he is a good long distance free kick specialist.

The question about whether Emery can deal with the really big egos is a legitimate one. He really never had to face that issue except at Arsenal. The word around La Liga is that he is a cold fish — very unlikeable and has a big ego, but I’m not sure I believe the second part of that. He certainly doesn’t talk himself up like Mourhino does. The other criticism I have heard is that he loses the team after 3 or 4 years. But, if Chelsea could get 3 great years out of him, it would be worth it. I think dealing with the British press would be tough for him though. It was at Arsenal. Being in Birmingham with Aston Villa probably eases that.

I saw Aston Villa play twice on television before he arrived and they were a mess. Yesterday, it was like a completely different team was there. They ran rings around Newcastle.
A friend of mine is a huge arsenal supporter and has been for years. I consider Luiz a chelsea legend because he won a lot of trophies as a starter there. But even in Luiz’s prime at Chelsea, my Buddy always ripped him. Then when he was way past his prime, and Arsenal signed him, I texted my friend and said “…you were saying??” The same with Willian when arsenal signed him. That was bad business. Although Willian seems to be having a good year at Fulham.
 
A friend of mine is a huge arsenal supporter and has been for years. I consider Luiz a chelsea legend because he won a lot of trophies as a starter there. But even in Luiz’s prime at Chelsea, my Buddy always ripped him. Then when he was way past his prime, and Arsenal signed him, I texted my friend and said “…you were saying??” The same with Willian when arsenal signed him. That was bad business. Although Willian seems to be having a good year at Fulham.
Willian has be a superb free for Fulham this year. Older but still very crafty and technical
 
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