OT: US News Grad School rankings 2018

[CrazyPaco]

Here are Pitt's new graduate program rankings (only new rankings made in 2017 that are currently publicly available) with changes in parentheses (/= no change, += improvement, -=downward move)

For comparison of trends and to see areas not ranked this year, last year's post is available here.

Pitt Nursing
#7 (+1) Doctoral
#8 (+5) Masters
Specialties
#3 (+1) clinical nurse leader
#4 (/) nursing-anesthesia
#4 (+4) nursing administration
#6 (+3) nursing informatics
#6 (-1) nurse practitioner gerontology acute care
#9 (/) nurse practitioner pediatric primary care
#12 (-2) nurse practitioner psychiatric
#12 (+11) online masters in nursing
#13 (+1) nurse practitioner gerontology primary care
#15 (-2) nurse practitioner family

Pitt Information Science (last ranked in 2013)
#10 (/)
Specialties
#1 (+2) health librarianship
#6 (/) archives & preservation
#9 (-5) information systems
#11 (+1) digital librianship

Pitt Med
#15 (+1) Overall (research)
#13 (-2) Primary Care
Specialties
#6 (-1) women's health
#8 (+1) pediatrics
#9 (+1) geriatrics
#10 (-2) drug & alcohol
#16 (-3) internal medicine

Pitt Education
#27 (+3)
Online grad education #47 (+19)

Pitt Engineering (Swanson)
#42 (+1)
Specialties
#12 (+6) biomedical engineering
#17 (+6) industrial engineering
#33 (+3) chemical engineering
#43 (+5) computer engineering
#43 (+12) materials engineering
#48 (+6) environmental engineering
#55 (/) electrical engineering
#57 (-6) mechanical engineering
#60 (-4) civil engineering

Pitt Business (Katz)
#53 (+2)
Part-time MBA #71 (-5)

Pitt Law
#82 (-4)
Specialties
#18 (-6) health care law


Dietrich School Social Science/Humanities Programs (last ranked in 2013)

Pitt Psychology
#26 (+4)

Pitt English
#35 (+4)

Pitt Economics
#39 (-3)

Political Science
#40 (/)

Pitt History
#44 (-8)

Pitt Sociology
#57 (-5)

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Thanks Paco

These Rankings really demonstrate that Pitt is truly an outstanding University.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[Pitt-Chains]

Thanks Paco

These Rankings really demonstrate that Pitt is truly an outstanding University.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Outstanding indeed !

 

[HailtoPitt]

When I was at Pitt in the late 90s and early 2002, SIS was tied for 3rd. Now it's at 10 because Pitt didn't seem to make it a priority.

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

When I was at Pitt in the late 90s and early 2002, SIS was tied for 3rd. Now it's at 10 because Pitt didn't seem to make it a priority.

GSPIA was top 10 nationally when I went there (class of '80). Now you can't even find it in the rankings.

 

[CrazyPaco]

GSPIA was top 10 nationally when I went there (class of '80). Now you can't even find it in the rankings.

GSPIA was ranked #34 (latest ranking was in 2016).

You have to be a little cautious about comparing previous years because of changes to ranking methodologies.

I don't think US News rankings existed in 1980 or earlier, so whatever ranking it was at the time when you were in school almost certainly wasn't using the same methodology.

 

[CrazyPaco]

When I was at Pitt in the late 90s and early 2002, SIS was tied for 3rd. Now it's at 10 because Pitt didn't seem to make it a priority.

Big changes coming to SIS as I'm sure you are aware. I'm not sure you can say it's being ignored.

Nothing seems to be floundering as badly as the Law School, and there may not be a unit at the university that rankings are more important for.

 

[CrazyPaco]

Thanks Paco

These Rankings really demonstrate that Pitt is truly an outstanding University.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Some parts are outstanding, some parts need improvement or much more.

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

GSPIA was ranked #34 (latest ranking was in 2016).

You have to be a little cautious about comparing previous years because of changes to ranking methodologies.

I don't think US News rankings existed in 1980 or earlier, so whatever ranking it was at the time when you were in school almost certainly wasn't using the same methodology.

As I recall it, that ranking was by NASPAA (National Association of Schools of Public Affairs and Administration).

 

[CrazyPaco]

The original post is now updated with more specialty rankings that were published in the latest University Times article on the latest US News grad rankings: http://www.utimes.pitt.edu/?p=42839

Swanson with some big movers.

 

[bwh05]

Wtf is up with the law school? How can that be the one that is cratering while the others seem to be trending upward

 

[CrazyPaco]

Wtf is up with the law school? How can that be the one we that is cratering while the others seem to be trending upward

There have been some changes in ranking methodology over the years, so it is hard to compare, but I think Pitt needs to come up with some strategy to rectify this because there may not be another academic unit where the rankings, for better or worse, mean more to its own health. These rankings have just plummeted and that can become a death spiral. Pitt shouldn't have any unit outside the top 50 (including athletics), let alone that far outside. Time for some changes, IMO.

2017 82
2016 78
2015 78
2014 81
2013 91
Chip Carter becomes Dean
2012 69
2011 71
2010 67
2009 71
2008 73
2007 57
2006 60
Mary Crossley becomes Dean
2005 52
2004 47
2003 51
2002 58
2001 55-88
2000 51-97
Herring becomes Dean
1999 54-89
David Herring becomes interim Dean
1998 >50
1997 >50
1996 52-90
Peter Shane becomes Dean in 1994

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Somebody in the Administration needs to inform Chip Carter that he needs a new game plan or maybe Pitt needs a new Law School dean.

Similar to Athletics, you can replace a coach when they don't compete so you can replace a dean when they don't compete.

Rutgers University Law School jumps 30 spots to be ranked #62 in just one year.

Check that out Paco.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[HailtoPitt]

Maybe they should move the law school to the Northside? That'll work.

 

[Joe Magarac]

Somebody in the Administration needs to inform Chip Carter that he needs a new game plan or maybe Pitt needs a new Law School dean.

Similar to Athletics, you can replace a coach when they don't compete so you can replace a dean when they don't compete.

Rutgers University Law School jumps 30 spots to be ranked #62 in just one year.

Check that out Paco.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

He's too busy calling out local TV stations for poor activities when dealing with his law school

 

[bwh05]

He's too busy calling out local TV stations for poor activities when dealing with his law school

What's that in reference to?

 

[CrazyPaco]

Maybe they should move the law school to the Northside? That'll work.

They need a new logo.

 

[CrazyPaco]

What's that in reference to?

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/c...as/stories/201703030079?pgpageversion=pgevoke

 

[CrazyPaco]

Somebody in the Administration needs to inform Chip Carter that he needs a new game plan or maybe Pitt needs a new Law School dean.

Similar to Athletics, you can replace a coach when they don't compete so you can replace a dean when they don't compete.

Rutgers University Law School jumps 30 spots to be ranked #62 in just one year.

Check that out Paco.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

When you see those sorts of wild fluctuations, that's actually quite an indictment on the ranking methodology unless there was some mistake in the data the previous year. Unfortunately though, law school rankings are pretty important, at least at the top.

Based on the trend at Pitt for the tenure of deans, the current one will only have another year or two. It is my understanding law school deans don't stay in one place very long anyway.

 

[Jpripper88]

He's too busy calling out local TV stations for poor activities when dealing with his law school

It is still pretty surprising Carter was hired. Obviously he has been a huge failure. Pitt played politics and lost big time.

 

[Joe Magarac]

It is still pretty surprising Carter was hired. Obviously he has been a huge failure. Pitt played politics and lost big time.

Maybe he will decide to leave Pitt to pursue other interests.

 

[pitt-girl]

When you see those sorts of wild fluctuations, that's actually quite an indictment on the ranking methodology unless there was some mistake in the data the previous year. Unfortunately though, law school rankings are pretty important, at least at the top.

Based on the trend at Pitt for the tenure of deans, the current one will only have another year or two. It is my understanding law school deans don't stay in one place very long anyway.

Our oldest is headed to Law School in the fall. The USNWR ranking, like it or not, is very, very important. Pitt was never on his radar. It's a shame that a University that continues to ascend as a whole, has a school that continues to sputter.

 

[Nittany1997]

Congrats guys!

 

[upitt98]

There have been some changes in ranking methodology over the years, so it is hard to compare, but I think Pitt needs to come up with some strategy to rectify this because there may not be another academic unit where the rankings, for better or worse, mean more to its own health. These rankings have just plummeted and that can become a death spiral. Pitt shouldn't have any unit outside the top 50 (including athletics), let alone that far outside. Time for some changes, IMO.

2017 82
2016 78
2015 78
2014 81
2013 91
Chip Carter becomes Dean
2012 69
2011 71
2010 67
2009 71
2008 73
2007 57
2006 60
Mary Crossley becomes Dean
2005 52
2004 47
2003 51
2002 58
2001 55-88
2000 51-97
Herring becomes Dean
1999 54-89
David Herring becomes interim Dean
1998 >50
1997 >50
1996 52-90
Peter Shane becomes Dean in 1994

Thanks for compiling these. It's been just an awful plunge since Dean Herring left the post--rankings, placement, Bar passage (perhaps the worst indictment) have all been declining for years. The market has been horrible for years, for all law schools, and Pitt Law has just slide downhill. It was a consistently well-ranked law school when I went there and graduated ('03 grad) and hasn't done well ever since Dean Herring wrapped it up in '05.

Pitt Law needs major changes in every respect with the exception of the faculty (still very good). The alumni engagement is just absent and the student population and recent alumni morale is in the tank.

Pitt Law should be anywhere from 40-60 in a given year--it isn't there and hasn't been in a decade.

It's still a fabulous education, but just about everything else is way behind their peers. The University needs to make it a priority to get in line with the rest of the programming.

 

[LivinWell]

Wait a second 98, bar passage is down but the faculty is still very good? Good at what? Good friends but bad instructors??? Makes no sense.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Here are Pitt's new graduate program rankings (only new rankings made in 2017 that are currently publicly available) with changes in parentheses (/= no change, += improvement, -=downward move)

For comparison of trends and to see areas not ranked this year, last year's post is available here.

Pitt Nursing
#7 (+1) Doctoral
#8 (+5) Masters
Specialties
#3 (+1) clinical nurse leader
#4 (/) nursing-anesthesia
#4 (+4) nursing administration
#6 (+3) nursing informatics
#6 (-1) nurse practitioner gerontology acute care
#9 (/) nurse practitioner pediatric primary care
#12 (-2) nurse practitioner psychiatric
#12 (+11) online masters in nursing
#13 (+1) nurse practitioner gerontology primary care
#15 (-2) nurse practitioner family

Pitt Information Science (last ranked in 2013)
#10 (/)
Specialties
#1 (+2) health librarianship
#6 (/) archives & preservation
#9 (-5) information systems
#11 (+1) digital librianship

Pitt Med
#15 (+1) Overall (research)
#13 (-2) Primary Care
Specialties
#6 (-1) women's health
#8 (+1) pediatrics
#9 (+1) geriatrics
#10 (-2) drug & alcohol
#16 (-3) internal medicine

Pitt Education
#27 (+3)
Online grad education #47 (+19)

Pitt Engineering (Swanson)
#42 (+1)
Specialties
#12 (+6) biomedical engineering
#17 (+6) industrial engineering
#33 (+3) chemical engineering
#43 (+5) computer engineering
#43 (+12) materials engineering
#48 (+6) environmental engineering
#55 (/) electrical engineering
#57 (-6) mechanical engineering
#60 (-4) civil engineering

Pitt Business (Katz)
#53 (+2)
Part-time MBA #71 (-5)

Pitt Law
#82 (-4)
Specialties
#18 (-6) health care law


Dietrich School Social Science/Humanities Programs (last ranked in 2013)

Pitt Psychology
#26 (+4)

Pitt English
#35 (+4)

Pitt Economics
#39 (-3)

Political Science
#40 (/)

Pitt History
#44 (-8)

Pitt Sociology
#57 (-5)

Pitt Pharmacy #9

 

[upitt98]

Wait a second 98, bar passage is down but the faculty is still very good? Good at what? Good friends but bad instructors??? Makes no sense.

Bar passage is separate issue. The faculty is essentially the same now as it was 10+ years ago when the Bar passage was markedly higher. Duquesne, for example, offers a year long Bar prep standalone course that has clearly helped over the past few years. There has not been an appropriate focus by Pitt Law on Bar passage and when the "competition" does have a focus--you lose. The Bar passage rate overall for the Commonwealth generally stays the same, so when applicants come from a school that has not kept up with the competition for preparation that school lags. Individual courses are taught at a solid or high level--but Pitt Law does not have an appropriate focus or support system in place to attain the 90%+ first time test taker Bar passage rate that it should.

 

[Saboteur]

Wait a second 98, bar passage is down but the faculty is still very good? Good at what? Good friends but bad instructors??? Makes no sense.

The two have little in common. Duquesne Law is te-emerging after a 20 year slide. The principle tool for a law Dean is assigning tenured faculty and rewarding publications and research.
At Duquesne it meant infusing the faculty with hungry professors and isolating bad ones. Limit the damage tenured faculty can do. It's a process but it requires one thing Pitt's Dean does not exhibit; a desire to run your ship first and foremost. If the Dean wants a bully pulpit, then the school and students suffer.
You want a pulpit or an incubator of talent? The choice is Pitt's to make.