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[FreeportPanther]

"A cute girl knocks on the door, you know, what do you do• Thank God they don't knock on my door. I'd refer 'em to a couple of other rooms.": Joe Paterno

Looks like more guys up at PedState share Joe's opinion!

http://triblive.com/state/pennsylvania/10297559-74/sexual-state-university

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

No wonder why they recruit well there.

 

[President Stache]

weirdly written article, why state that one in five of the abused were under the influence of alcohol or drugs. I would think that is a rather low number in a college? That means that 80 percent of the sexual assaults, and if you do the math, would be 20 percent of EVERY UNDERGRAD FEMALE was sexually assaulted while completely sober at Penn State. THAT IS IN-F'ING-SANE

 

[NCLee]

weirdly written article, why state that one in five of the abused were under the influence of alcohol or drugs. I would think that is a rather low number in a college? That means that 80 percent of the sexual assaults, and if you do the math, would be 20 percent of EVERY UNDERGRAD FEMALE was sexually assaulted while completely sober at Penn State. THAT IS IN-F'ING-SANE

Seriously that place is a cesspool for rural American whites and suburbanite softies!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"A cute girl knocks on the door, you know, what do you do• Thank God they don't knock on my door. I'd refer 'em to a couple of other rooms.": Joe Paterno

Looks like more guys up at PedState share Joe's opinion!

http://triblive.com/state/pennsylvania/10297559-74/sexual-state-university

I might be wrong but I think this New Publication regardless of its weird numbers will just bring more questions about Title IX & Sexual Assaults at the exact wrong timing. I say this due to Trumps comments on Paterno will bring on a Media Storm the next 12 days before the Pennsylvania Primary Election.

Excerpt:
Large protests surged around the outside of the building. Sometimes Trump misfired on his promises. “How's Joe Paterno? We're gonna bring that back? Right?” Trump said, referring to the late Penn State head football coach who died in 2012. Many in the crowd groaned.

Link:
http://triblive.com/politics/politicalheadlines/10290878-74/trump-convention-delegates

The Media will jump on anything Trump has to say and Women Sexual Assaults, Children Abuse, Legislature current pending Senate Vote on Changing Sexual Abuse Statue Of Limitations from 30 to 50 years of age, will attack Trump by bringing these Penn State Scandals on Women, Children, and Anti-Trump by Media and Political Opponent attention, at the exact wrong time, just a guess and hunch!

Jay Paterno will be put in a tough spot since he tried to run as Lieutenant Governor Candidate as a Democrat but withdrew after challenges were announced on Petition Questionable Signatures. While Scott Paterno ran for Congress as a Republican with $7 Million raised and still lost in a Republican District?

It will be interesting how Mothers, N.O.W., Young Women, and PSU Female fans will react after Trump's remarks on Paterno? This is the kind of publicity that can cut both ways, and Penn state is trying to move on, forget, and put in reforms for a brighter future?

Maybe it will reignite Media Scrutiny and Questions on why the Clery Report Findings still have not been published after well passed the Public Deadline as Senate and Congress men and woman running for Election will have to explain or demand the reasons why?

We shall see?

 

[9nationalchampionships]

There should be a wall up surrounding Centre County and the cult will pay for it!

 

[HailtoPitt]

We Are.... Gonna Vote for Trump!

Bring back Joe!

 

[pittdan77]

Let me math for a second...

So, 1 in 4 reported they were assaulted. Assuming half of the 35,000 or so students are female and they're still running 15 week terms, that's almost 150 a week while school is in session. 80 per week if it's over the entire year. About every two hours.

Anyone with a daughter okay with that?

 

[HailtoPitt]

Let me math for a second...

So, 1 in 4 reported they were assaulted. Assuming half of the 35,000 or so students are female and they're still running 15 week terms, that's almost 150 a week while school is in session. 80 per week if it's over the entire year. About every two hours.

Anyone with a daughter okay with that?

As long as she is sacrificed in the name of Joe, then all is good.

 

[PittMan 72]

weirdly written article, why state that one in five of the abused were under the influence of alcohol or drugs. I would think that is a rather low number in a college? That means that 80 percent of the sexual assaults, and if you do the math, would be 20 percent of EVERY UNDERGRAD FEMALE was sexually assaulted while completely sober at Penn State. THAT IS IN-F'ING-SANE

Sex, drugs and alcohol. But one of the oft-used mantras heard from their proponents is that it's such a "SAFE" place. Really?

 

[President Stache]

To be honest... if that was a bar... it would be shut down immediately.

Is Caligula running that place?

The numbers should be front and center broadcasted on every local television station. Could you imagine if someone said "hey if your child goes to Gateway, she has a 25% chance of getting sexually assaulted" and no one knew of that and you sent your child there? There would be huge outrage.

https://www.michigandaily.com/news/university-ranks-second-number-reported-sexual-offenses-2012

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Does this include the prestious World Campus?

 

[DruidTM]

That entire school is depressing ..."safe"....yeah safe...

 

[Lion84]

Yeah and that only happens at PSU. I know you hate Penn State but this is a problem at many campuses and needs more attention.

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/ed...sive-on-college-campuses/stories/201509220051

 

[HailtoPitt]

Yeah and that only happens at PSU. I know you hate Penn State but this is a problem at many campuses and needs more attention.

True, but it is just really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really bad at Penn State.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Lion84, post: 1239426, member: 6402"]Yeah and that only happens at PSU. I know you hate Penn State but this is a problem at many campuses and needs more attention.
http://www.post-gazette.com/news/ed...sive-on-college-campuses/stories/201509220051
The Problem is Penn State for years under Paterno Era 1966-2011 bragged, claimed, and defamed many Universities, Football Programs, and Coaches saying this did not happen at Penn State. They were superior, followed the Rules, and crimes happen at Schools jealous of Penn State success.

When actually Penn State had a unfair competitive edge by not being in compliance with many Laws, Regulations, and Rules. Now the World knows the full truth about Penn State Football Errors that were reformed in 2012.

Some Penn State Fans still deny nothing happen and now you say everyone did it? Explain if anything is wrong below and what reforms will be removed in the future at Penn State University?

Penn State 2012 Reforms From Nittany Liars Back To Nittany Lions Reformed Roars, All Accomplish Under NCAA Oversight Monitor:

1. PSU End Contributions & Association To The Second Mile

2. Restoring Institutional Control Over The PSU Football Program

3. Hiring 2 New PSU Presidents Accountable To Obey NCAA Rules

4. Hiring 2 New Athletic Directors Responsible To Follow NCAA Rules

5. Hiring First PSU Director of Ethics & Compliance

6. Hiring First PSU Athletic Integrity Officer

7. Implement & Enforce PSU Clery Act Compliance

8. Implement & Enforce PSU Title IX Compliance

9. Implement Athletic Integrity Agreement Compliance

10. Implement & Enforce First Code Of Athletic Conduct For PSU Football Players

11. End PSU Players Special Treatment Exemption From Student Judicial Affairs

12. Player's Cooperates On Outside Investigations No More Players Exceptions

13. No Coach's Wives Influence Player's Discipline In Student Judicial Affairs

14. Requires All PSU Coaches & Employees To Follow Such Laws & Compliance's

15. PSU Never Again Will Allow Any Coach Be Exempt From University Oversight

These Reforms have been approved, implemented and required over $500+ Million of Fines, Reforms, and Expenses that are still climbing in Settlements, Costs, Fine$ and New Staffers to administer Reforms and continued Criminal And Civil Legal Costs.

Question #1
If Penn State did nothing wrong why did they need or pass such Reforms?

Question #2
Did these violations happen under the Paterno Era of Penn State Football or another Coach?

Question #3
Now what other University had to pay outs such fines, expenses, and costs on crimes, compliance's and rules breaking on the level of Penn State to date?

Question #4
Do you think Penn State University is better with these Reforms today?

Question #5
What reforms do you want to remove to make Penn State better?

Question #6
Why are Penn state Alumni, Trustees, Former Players, and Paterno's hating these Penn State Reforms and filing Lawsuits against Penn State as well as fans on BWI Boards attacking Penn state every day, is that hate at Penn state's gate?

Why hate Penn State when the University corrected their violations and you can be proud PSU did so and looking forward to playing this great University & Program in September!

 

[Saboteur]

Yeah and that only happens at PSU. I know you hate Penn State but this is a problem at many campuses and needs more attention.

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/ed...sive-on-college-campuses/stories/201509220051

What happened to WE ARE?
Succeed with Dignity.
Crime is a problem everywhere, but so are weeds.
I don't hate Penn State. Not by a long shot. But I despise hypocrisy and the slogans ....especially that old Success with Honor bullshit...that were solely designed to market the university to those on the outside while those on the inside (and by that I mean the inside of the Lausche building---the young and the very old) either suffered or looked the other way make me want to vomit.
I don't hate Penn State: I hate those from or in love with an opinion that doesn't meet facts.
Yes....all crime is a problem and for as long as I can remember, PSU has used its false image to both promote itself abd denigrate others.
Now when the truth comes out, the number one reaction is for those I mentioned to point the finger at others.
It is sadly reminiscent of the trials after WWII. Oh, if only there were Spandau Ballet performances in the future, then justice would be served.
Go back to Thon.

 

[Ski11585]

I find this thread in very poor taste. Much like whenever folks bring up Sandusky, I feel like Pitt fans are co-opting a very serious issue and exploiting it in service of a sports rivalry.

If you think this is an important issue, spend your time thinking about how to improve the situation at Pitt, not using it as a way to slam your sports rival.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

WE ARE......hosting 76 recruits for this spring game. How 'bout yinz?

As much as we Pitt fans try and put gasoline on the PSU fire in regards to scandals, but the embers never ignite. It is over there. And the football program is the Christmas Tree in the middle of Whoville. No matter what happens, they will rally around it, holding hands and singing.....

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Saboteur, post: 1240548, member: 5688"]What happened to WE ARE?
Succeed with Dignity. Crime is a problem everywhere, but so are weeds.
Exactly, it is nice to see Penn State finally realizes they were no worse or good as other Programs. This was their surprised revelations and now the smart and best PSU Fan knows it. Only the PSU Posters dregs think it will be reversed, but the reforms refute they ever had a superior program to other schools.

I don't hate Penn State. Not by a long shot. But I despise hypocrisy and the slogans ....especially that old Success with Honor bullshit...that were solely designed to market the university to those on the outside while those on the inside (and by that I mean the inside of the Lausche building---the young and the very old) either suffered or looked the other way make me want to vomit.
I think Lion84 is one of the better Posters that acknowl3edges mistakes happen at PSU but he points out at other Schools too, so be it. Most CFB fans knew it, but most PSu Posters were misled and were upset when they found out PSU was not as Special and slogans were made up not reality.

I don't hate Penn State: I hate those from or in love with an opinion that doesn't meet facts.
Yes....all crime is a problem and for as long as I can remember, PSU has used its false image to both promote itself abd denigrate others.
True and the Cover Ups tried to project an image that was not based on reality and led to the Reforms to change the Football Culture.

Now when the truth comes out, the number one reaction is for those I mentioned to point the finger at others. It is sadly reminiscent of the trials after WWII. Oh, if only there were Spandau Ballet performances in the future, then justice would be served.
Go back to Thon.
Penn State University and Fans can take more Nittany Lion Pride in making the changes with the Reforms to correct the myths, slogans, and mismanagement to protect the cover ups. It still has a formidable Program that can win with the Reforms and live up to the realities they once thought were true. Nothing wrong in commending the changes made and still be proud of their school that made them.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"Ski11585, post: 1240590, member: 2956"]I find this thread in very poor taste. Much like whenever folks bring up Sandusky, I feel like Pitt fans are co-opting a very serious issue and exploiting it in service of a sports rivalry.
Agree and disagree. Agree, prefer to talk just CFB between the Program on the upcoming game. Yet, the Threads on both Lair and BWI are about problems with CFB Title IX and National recognition going on and Penn State is brought up because of what happen there.

If you think this is an important issue, spend your time thinking about how to improve the situation at Pitt, not using it as a way to slam your sports rival.
Disagree again, Lair Posters often talk about in threads problems at Pitt and your own response is valid but the the thread is about on a subject matter relevant to all CFB and others on both Boards discuss it as they please and will.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"recruitsreadtheseboards, post: 1240713, member: 2328"]WE ARE......hosting 76 recruits for this spring game. How 'bout yinz? As much as we Pitt fans try and put gasoline on the PSU fire in regards to scandals, but the embers never ignite. It is over there. And the football program is the Christmas Tree in the middle of Whoville. No matter what happens, they will rally around it, holding hands and singing.....
Agree, it is over for the Penn State Football Program being off of Sanctions and moving ahead. The Penn State Reforms are in place to prevent and be within Rules meant to protect its Students not its Football Players as they are now treated as Students and under an Athletic Code of Conduct to correct their past violations.

Yet, Penn State University is still dealing with many remaining aspects of the past still under Criminal Appeal, Civil Lawsuits and blame among each other. BWI Posters never let a day go by when they attack and criticize their own University every day too, and it is not over for them either.

The PSU Football Program is still having to deal to ancillary aspects of its division of beliefs, disbelief, sloppy confusion investigations, that have morphed into conspiracies and other questions that are fair game but won't go away until Lawsuits settled or dismissed or decided along with Criminal charges.

The Penn State University Reforms are a reality that cannot be refuted and will not be removed to fix the Penn State Football Culture. Those are over and in place to insure compliance and no longer a competitive edge.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

This is on the nut job board now…

Pitt's James Connor

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

This is on the nut job board now…

Pitt's James Connor

Yet, they are giving good and respectful comments on Conner by many that have less compliments about other aspects of CFB including Pitt. I respect they have passion for PSU Football like all Fans, Students & Alumni everywhere.

Just like they went through the tragedy and recovery of Adam Taliaferro and his recovery and now great contributions to Penn State University and his community. Pitt Fan's supported his recovery and rehab, and both were at their best when posting it.

I expect Banter is part of that and why games are watched and this sport makes big money for many entities, but they also recognize when someone needs to be admire and respected like James Conner is doing.

No one says having to like each other is demanded only respecting each other is up to all of us.