Pat Forde says Stallings could be 2 and out

[cabe23]

That’s what athletic director Scott Barnes (30) did when he tabbed Vanderbilt’s Kevin Stallings (31). This arrangement very likely was created by the buddy-buddy search firm business: Barnes hired College Sports Associates, run by his former boss at Washington, Todd Turner, who also happened to be Stallings’ former boss at Vandy. It was all very convenient, except for the inconvenient truth that Stallings was a very bad fit for the Pitt job. Nine months later, Barnes left Pitt for Oregon State. In his wake, the Stallings Era has been a complete debacle.


https://sports.yahoo.com/forde-minutes-biggest-surprises-college-basketball-season-053906894.html

 

[DiehardPanther]

That’s what athletic director Scott Barnes (30) did when he tabbed Vanderbilt’s Kevin Stallings (31). This arrangement very likely was created by the buddy-buddy search firm business: Barnes hired College Sports Associates, run by his former boss at Washington, Todd Turner, who also happened to be Stallings’ former boss at Vandy. It was all very convenient, except for the inconvenient truth that Stallings was a very bad fit for the Pitt job. Nine months later, Barnes left Pitt for Oregon State. In his wake, the Stallings Era has been a complete debacle.


https://sports.yahoo.com/forde-minutes-biggest-surprises-college-basketball-season-053906894.html

Come Clean seems appropriate.

 

[Big Marty1]

Geez, that's going out on a limb . It's been over for a month.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Hopefully he meant 2 more halves of basketball and he’ll be gone tomorrow.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

I'm expecting to wake up tomorrow morning and hear that Lyke fired Stallings. If that doesn't happen, I seriously doubt her ability to do her job. This guy is making millions and not doing anything.

 

[Pittx9]

I truly believe though they may not have told stallings, the only decision up in the air is to announce he's gone at the end of the season now or actually wait til the season is over. It's pretty clear he did not need to do this massive rebuild he's trying to do. And there's just no way they willingly bring back stallings when they know that means the Pete will be 90% empty every single game next season.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Pat Forde declares water may be wet

 

[Big Marty1]

It may come as a resignation with a settlement. Kevin Stallings is uncomfortable too. There will be good candidates for the job.

 

[BFo8]

It may come as a resignation with a settlement. Kevin Stallings is uncomfortable too. There will be good candidates for the job.

I’m not so sure.

There apparently weren’t when Dixon left and the program was in way better shape then.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

I’m not so sure.

There apparently weren’t when Dixon left and the program was in way better shape then.

There were good candidates that Pitt could have hired when Dixon was pushed out. But Barnes had his buddies to satisfy and never made an attempt to hire a good coach. So we got Stallings.

 

[giveitarest]

There were good candidates that Pitt could have hired when Dixon was pushed out. But Barnes had his buddies to satisfy and never made an attempt to hire a good coach. So we got Stallings.

There were also good candidates that had no interest in Pitt.

 

[DiehardPanther]

There were also good candidates that had no interest in Pitt.

We had more competition then as well. There shouldn’t be as many openings this year.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

There were also good candidates that had no interest in Pitt.

Depends on what you call "good". I wouldn't call Sean Miller a good candidate. Or Calipari.

And there were good candidates that had a interest in the Pitt job and they weren't even considered because Barnes had his mind already made up and had his deal made with Stallings.

 

[giveitarest]

Depends on what you call "good". I wouldn't call Sean Miller a good candidate. Or Calipari.

And there were good candidates that had a interest in the Pitt job and they weren't even considered because Barnes had his mind already made up and had his deal made with Stallings.

Who were those coaches? Never heard any names of P5 coaches who were interested. I heard Enfield's name but got the sense he never would have considered us.
BTW not standing up for Stallings at all as I was less than enthused at the hire.

 

[OriginalEther]

There were good candidates that Pitt could have hired when Dixon was pushed out. But Barnes had his buddies to satisfy and never made an attempt to hire a good coach. So we got Stallings.

Part of the issue there is Dixon being pushed out in the first place. Think prospective coaches where aware that 22+ wins, even in a down stretch, weren't good enough here?

 

[cupkafan]

There were good candidates that Pitt could have hired when Dixon was pushed out. But Barnes had his buddies to satisfy and never made an attempt to hire a good coach. So we got Stallings.

total bull sh*t narrative. Barnes went after Miller. Also went after 2 or 3 others who also turned us down including the Hurley at URI. Even back then Pitt was not that attractive. I was told by someone inside the AD that when Barnes got turned down he "panicked" and went with the easy score. So stop playing Dejan Kovacicic he's a dik.

 

[OriginalEther]

total bull sh*t narrative. Barnes went after Miller. Also went after 2 or 3 others who also turned us down including the Hurley at URI. Even back then Pitt was not that attractive. I was told by someone inside the AD that when Barnes got turned down he "panicked" and went with the easy score. So stop playing Dejan Kovacicic he's a dik.

Which anyone with any sense knows that the Millers aren't good candidates because they all hate Pitt.

 

[ameoba defense]

Who were those coaches? Never heard any names of P5 coaches who were interested. I heard Enfield's name but got the sense he never would have considered us.
BTW not standing up for Stallings at all as I was less than enthused at the hire.

How often do P5 coaches make lateral moves? Not often, unless their seat was getting hot.

 

[Saboteur]

I'm expecting to wake up tomorrow morning and hear that Lyke fired Stallings. If that doesn't happen, I seriously doubt her ability to do her job. This guy is making millions and not doing anything.

If and when he gets fired he will genuinely be making millions and doing nothing.

 

[ScrantonicityIII]

We had more competition then as well. There shouldn’t be as many openings this year.

How you describe it, we're the ugly chick at the bar that nobody wants till last call, and everyone is drop dead drunk. I don't disagree.

 

[ScrantonicityIII]

total bull sh*t narrative. Barnes went after Miller. Also went after 2 or 3 others who also turned us down including the Hurley at URI. Even back then Pitt was not that attractive. I was told by someone inside the AD that when Barnes got turned down he "panicked" and went with the easy score. So stop playing Dejan Kovacicic he's a dik.

Maybe should have kept Dixon then. Who would have ever thought Steeeeeve leaving would kill the hoops program.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Part of the issue there is Dixon being pushed out in the first place. Think prospective coaches where aware that 22+ wins, even in a down stretch, weren't good enough here?

That's one of the issues that Pitt is being criticized for in the media. Why would we do that to Dixon and how does that make other candidates feel about the Pitt job? It's not a good look for Pitt. Forget the nonsense about what it does to Pitt if we fired a coach after 2 years. That's not even an issue. It's how we handled the Dixon exit and what we did to him that concerns other coaches.

 

[PittFathead87]

If the price is right, there will be plenty of good candidates who want the exposure of coaching at a terrific university like Pitt and competing with the best in the ACC. And if coaches shy away from the job because Pitt is looking to turn this disaster around after 0-18, and aspire to make it deep into the tournament, then they shouldn't be considered in the first place.

This entire narrative that Pitt isn't an appealing job is garbage. Pay the right amount of money, pick the right guy, and you'd be amazed how appealing it becomes. There are hundreds of good coaches with the fire to succeed who would jump at the chance to come to Pitt.

Just go back and look at Howland's record his four years. He was never intimidated by the job of resurrecting a program in one of the toughest conferences in the country. That's the kind of mindset I want back at Pitt.

 

[Delpanther]

That's one of the issues that Pitt is being criticized for in the media. Why would we do that to Dixon and how does that make other candidates feel about the Pitt job? It's not a good look for Pitt. Forget the nonsense about what it does to Pitt if we fired a coach after 2 years. That's not even an issue. It's how we handled the Dixon exit and what we did to him that concerns other coaches.

Dixon's running from Pitt like a coward is a non-issue as regards a future coaching search...

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Which anyone with any sense knows that the Millers aren't good candidates because they all hate Pitt.

 

[Delpanther]

If you've got the time, I've got the beer....

 

[Pittx9]

I wouldn't be all that surprised if out of nowhere coaches are interested. Seriously who wanted to be the guys who succeeds Jamie Dixon? For one, you inherit a team with a few seniors, Luther, and cam Johnson who at the very least it was known he was probably gonna graduate and have options.

Secondly, Dixon was the greatest coach in Pitt history in an absolute landslide. By the end of his time here the fans were growing restless. It doesn't matter the specifics of what happened it's a bad look that a coach with that much success felt unwanted here.

Take the Pitt job now though, yes it's in an awful state. But, literally just because you're somebody new fan support will spike from this season. It's not like this team has no talent whatsoever. You inherit guys that have time to develop... a 4 star point guard, a 2 that can shoot well, a big man that is actually competent (something that isn't as common as you'd think.) For next season between the 3 and the 4 spots you could be looking at Luther, Stevenson, Ellison, Davis, and JWF. That looks a lot better when Stevenson and Davis can become role players and high minute bench players.

I think with this roster, and being in the ACC, it's a great opportunity for a young up and comer. It's obviously not a great situation to walk into but a new coach now has a chance to be a hero. Two years ago it was likely anyone would've came in and just disappointed the fan base.