Pat Narduzzi poll

[VolPanther]

Honestly surprised by all the doom and gloom on this board that this poll is that one-sided to keeping Narduzzi. Looks like the squeaky wheels post more.

I think most love the tough sack happy defense. It definitely isnt as simplistic as having a confident, cocky QB that can sling it... but that has been Pitt's problem since Marino (Palko fit the bill a bit). Is it the scheme or the QB? The O line or the the game breaking running backs? I honestly dont know, cause even when Pitt is in the middle of their awesome offense years, to me, it still doesnt feel like we have that Big Ben type guy that when we are down 4 with 2 minutes left, you just know we are going to win. Quite the opposite actually. This transcends the coaches a bit. My thought has always been, get the great D, have a decent run game, and eventually a QB will pan out to be a great leader, the odds are with us, I mean, most every other college program finds that guy, and has a magic season. We have been void of that guy.

With that, that is why I like this staff... despite the fact I dont really actually like Narduzzi, I hate the bragging, the face mask falling off, the whipple making the qbs run 3.5 miles a game back to him to call a freaking play. the time outs wasted on offense, the lack of imagination of offense, defenders not playing the ball, etc. But the dude does know defense, and no doubt he made this defense from one of the worst in the country to one of the best.

As much as they’ve improved on the defensive side of the ball from 4 years ago how do you think someone who plays press man coverage on 3rd and 15 and more and has multiple defensive breakdowns directly leading to TD‘s every game or commits costly PI penalties keeping drives alive is really a guy who is an elite defensive mind? His inability to adjust his philosophy just a tad in certain situations makes me question his football IQ

 

[WannyandWalt]

Wanny and Walt fan wants Narduzzi canned 🙄

Both are better coaches than SNOOZ

 

[#99HUGHgreen]

Partridge - A very good assistant coach
Beatty - Good recruiter
Collins - Good recruiter
Bates - Pretty good coordinator
Whipple - Terrible OC
OL, TE, RB, LB, DB - All 5 positions are average at best. What makes those position coaches good?

The QB position - possibly the most important of all positions - happens to be very average too. What makes it worse is that this staff missed out on a very talented kid from Pittsburgh who now is the starting QB for BC (Jurkovic)... someone we all saw lead his team to a victory over Pitt.

What does it say that this staff missed on him?

 

[BFo8]

The QB position - possibly the most important of all positions - happens to be very average too. What makes it worse is that this staff missed out on a very talented kid from Pittsburgh who now is the starting QB for BC (Jurkovic)... someone we all saw lead his team to a victory over Pitt.

What does it say that this staff missed on him?

At this point are we really certain he’s all that much better than what we have now?

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Pitt will not finish 3-8 don’t let your emotions from one game boil out

True. 6-5. Beat both techs, lose to fsu & Clemson, upset ND. Or 5-6 with a loss to a tech or ND. We never finish with less than 5 wins, not since walt in 1998. 22 years!

 

[TD_6082]

No, they dont.

They need to find a recruiter that can bring in badass road graders.

We should not change our identity. We should bring in better talent.

If our OL could knock anyone off the ball we are 6-0

Totally agree. It is what it is. The program is mediocre, but they remain competitive with almost everyone on the schedule. They aren't far away from being really good. If they had a good line and a solid RB, this team is 6-0.

 

[TD_6082]

The QB position - possibly the most important of all positions - happens to be very average too. What makes it worse is that this staff missed out on a very talented kid from Pittsburgh who now is the starting QB for BC (Jurkovic)... someone we all saw lead his team to a victory over Pitt.

What does it say that this staff missed on him?

I disagree, I really like what I have seen from Pitt at the QB position this year. They don't have much of a running game to rely on, and the number of drops we see every week is borderline ridiculous. I'm disappointed in the OL & RB play. Pitt should have a RB.

 

[Teh Teh]

Coved happened to every one, every school, it happened to nc state, it happened to Boston college, and also to miami, so coved is not an excuse to suck, or did it just effect Pitt

The only excuse is going from the 63 ranked schedule to the number 1 ranked schedule. Injuries happen to everyone, so yeah no excuse for not finishing 8th in the ACC or better as predicted

 

[pbrad]

If you are losing with the players you have, you need better players. If you are losing with the scheme you have you need to change the scheme. If you are losing with the coaches you have, you need to change coaches.

 

[Pittx9]

Both are better coaches than SNOOZ

There’s nothing more embarrassing than the same people who wanted Walt and Wanny both gone because they couldn’t win big games to get us to the next level making up excuses as to why we should keep Narduzzi. “He’s building something!” they claim.

It’s his 6th freakin’ year here and the only top 25 matchup this guy has been involved in was in week 3 of a pandemic stricken season with only 3 P5 conferences even participating at that point in time. I’d kill for a NY6 bowl because we were in a 4-way tie for a weak conference championship or blowing a huge lead in a de facto conference championship game right now.

Narduzzi can’t even get us to a point where we’re even playing games on the big stage. It’s seriously pathetic that we’ve become so accustomed to mediocrity that just being mediocre without even having a chance to play in a game that could possibly elevate us to more than that is just accepted.

 

[lilspainishflea]

People keep wanting us to build this consistent dominating OL, and I have to ask: what teams are doing this?

Alabama and UGA are top 2 in the 247 Talent Composite, and did anybody watch that game last night and think trench play was the difference in the game? That game was decided by:

1. Bama having a better offensive scheme compared to Kirby’s outdated ground and pound mindset.

2. Bama’s offensive skill talent.

It’s so difficult recruiting some elite OL year after year, most teams don’t try it. The game today is about being able to turn it into basketball on grass offensively. Every year we resist that, is a year we get left behind.

This. Is it any wonder that the teams consistently winning the SEC are now throwing it all over the field? Ole Miss put up 48 on Alabama and got blown out. You need to score. Running it, especially as poorly as we do, is anathema to winning in college ball.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

This. Is it any wonder that the teams consistently winning the SEC are now throwing it all over the field? Ole Miss put up 48 on Alabama and got blown out. You need to score. Running it, especially as poorly as we do, is anathema to winning in college ball.

Agreed generally but would note a lot of these multiple/spread teams are running for 200 yards a game while throwing for 300. The balance isn't 50/50 but it's at least a credible threat to run and pass.

 

[#99HUGHgreen]

At this point are we really certain he’s all that much better than what we have now?

He is enough better that Pitt would likely be undefeated at this point with him at the helm of the offense. This was supposed to be the year PN had a team that was going to finally be pretty special. I get that Pitt has below average to average TEs, RBs or OL, but I can’t help but think what a difference this season would be with a QB that’s just a little bit better.

 

[lilspainishflea]

Agreed generally but would note a lot of these multiple/spread teams are running for 200 yards a game while throwing for 300. The balance isn't 50/50 but it's at least a credible threat to run and pass.

Yep, you made a good point. I didn't mean that good college offenses never run, I just meant that they do it less than they pass but still get 5 yards per attempt. We tend to run a lot (46%) but at less than 3 yards per carry it's not doing us any good.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

At this point are we really certain he’s all that much better than what we have now?

If he was here the first game that he would have started for us all season was last Saturday. Maybe.

 

[Cap pitt]

I'm not crazy about Narduzzi when asked a question about stats, polls articles and injurys, according to him, he doesn't know anything, or he doesn't pay attention or he doesn't keep up with that stuff. Jerry probably asked that question or Jerry did this or Jerry did that, how can PN not know anything about anything, and he smiles while he's saying it, maybe he should keep up with current thing going on, he might learn something

 

[wbrpanther]

I have gone back and forth with this and I truly believe if Pitt finishes the season 3-8 with a blowout loss to Clemson in the last game? Then Heather Lyke will have no choice but to fire him.

How can there be any justification to keep him at that point? Curious to see what you guys think. Yes the buyout is high BUT c'mon 3-8? There is no excuse for that. He would have to go.

I doubt Pitt goes 3-8 but if we do I think Duzz still stays. But he would be very wise to find an OC that knows how to fix the run game because his future depends on it.

 

[JokePa]

Huh?? I hope you mean fired

Yeah, I meant fired, sorry.

Proof is in the pudding, if you cant improve, ultimately it is the coaches fault, and you cant flounder forever in mediocrity and simply blame little things here and there, even if that is true.

 

[Cap pitt]

What identity?

I don't think that Nick Saban is available

 

[boseman7]

People keep wanting us to build this consistent dominating OL, and I have to ask: what teams are doing this?

Alabama and UGA are top 2 in the 247 Talent Composite, and did anybody watch that game last night and think trench play was the difference in the game? That game was decided by:

1. Bama having a better offensive scheme compared to Kirby’s outdated ground and pound mindset.

2. Bama’s offensive skill talent.

It’s so difficult recruiting some elite OL year after year, most teams don’t try it. The game today is about being able to turn it into basketball on grass offensively. Every year we resist that, is a year we get left behind.

I disagree. A defensive line can give even a average team a chance to beat Elite teams even if they have better " sexy position" players. If your Oline cant dictate where to run to or protect you will flat out lose. Scheme matters more when trench play is even and then you need better skill players to match up....my famous line is ... " Football games are won or lost in the trenches, games are given away or taken way by secondary play.".

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

I disagree. A defensive line can give even a average team a chance to beat Elite teams even if they have better " sexy position" players. If your Oline cant dictate where to run to or protect you will flat out lose. Scheme matters more when trench play is even and then you need better skill players to match up....my famous line is ... " Football games are won or lost in the trenches, games are given away or taken way by secondary play.".

Need a huge upgrade and OL coach. A guy that coordinate an effective run game. If keeping Whipple, that's an absolute must. If that's the lone change, get Bostad from Wisconsin. Pay him big.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Need a huge upgrade and OL coach. A guy that coordinate an effective run game. If keeping Whipple, that's an absolute must. If that's the lone change, get Bostad from Wisconsin. Pay him big.

I mean sure, hard to argue with that. But there are only a small number of 4 star offensive linemen around the country. It tends to be the position where players develop latest because of the needed strength AND skill. I think Wanny may have been on to something by converting athletic defensive tackles to offensive line, it might be at least somewhat a way around the problem of a small number of fish in that sea.