His citizenship is an issue for NIL apparently for Oscar .
International kids aren’t eligible so far
But to your point - it still wouldn’t be 6 figures .
Pitino would get us back on track in 2 seasons
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International kids aren’t eligible so far
But to your point - it still wouldn’t be 6 figures .
I have no doubt that Pitino would turn the team around quickly and win.
I'm not sure I'm ready to go there and I'm pretty certain Pitt would never go there. It's good message board discussion that will never happen.
I'm not sure I'm ready to go there and I'm pretty certain Pitt would never go there. It's good message board discussion that will never happen.
Wow, that’s kinda bullshit. Didn’t know that. Good info
It did exist in knowing that it was coming. It’s not like July 1 everyone said oh now we can do NIL. It was known? Just like the one time transfer rule was known it was coming way before it came. You have the most insane conspiracy theories but now you’re going to go with no one knew NIL was gonna exist when Oscar decided to transfer?
SOUF already explained why he doesn’t have deals, but per usual, u have egg on your face.
Hugley could probably get around the same money from the schools slightly above Pitt that he can get at Pitt, which isn’t much. You’re way overvaluing how good he is and his worth.
He will be a Top 5 center in college basketball next year and is worth six figures. There are some metrics which rank him Top 5 THIS year.
Hugley's ability was another thing you were wrong on. He is an elite 5 and could be 1st Team AA type before he's done
This is so far from reality I don’t know where to begin. He might not be top 5 center IN THE ACC.
Here’s the thing about players that good. THEY WIN when they’re in a terrible league. He’s dominated the teams he should dominate. Completely disappeared last night. Long way to go before he’s even a first or second all ACc team guy
Can we please see him actually dominate the rest of the ACC schedule before you go off making statements like this? Not saying he won’t either but let’s see it
I am extremely good at identifying and projecting talent. Hugley's hands and feet are elite. His post moves are elite. His jumper isn't yet but he has a beautiful shooting technique which means those shots will fall with work. The knock on him is defense and rebounding. He doesn't eat glass like you'd like out a guy with his frame and he doesn't "rim protect."
But for a college basketball center, there aren't many better this season.
I actually laughed out loud at your first sentence . Is this all an act or do you really have 0 self awareness??
He’s averaging 15 points on 10 plus shots in 29 minutes a game. That’s a higher volume of shots than any big in the conference who is within the 2-3 point range of him. So he’s not overly efficient (45 percent FG). For reference, Bacot is shooting 64 percent on the same amount of shots and averaging 16.6 per game.
he’s averaging 8 rebounds per game which is slightly above the 7 you’d expect out of a starting center who plays almost 30 minutes a game but not even close to someone like Dejuan who played less minutes. For reference, Bacot is averaging 11 a game in the exact same amount of minutes.
He doesn’t block shots, averaging .5 per game. And he turns the ball over 3 times a game. Both of those numbers should be different. We have played more OOC scrubs he should dominate to block more shots and turn the ball over less. For reference, Bacot is averaging 1.5 blocks per game and 1.7 turnovers.
Where does he make up the difference in his terribly inefficient numbers you ask? Easy. At the foul line. He currently has the most FT’s in the country. This is born out of his overflow of
Opportunities (we have no other good players) and playing a bad OOC schedule. When it regresses back to the mean of not playing terrible, shorter, or less chunky players like BC, his numbers will look closer to what they were last night.
SMF is simply overvaluing an inefficient player because he dominated 3 bad centers from BC and a bad OOC. He’s a borderline top 5 center in the ACC when you look at the actual numbers.
Yep. He’s a good player and hope to have him here for a few more years but people acting like he’s worth keeping a coach around for are insane.
Yeah but you’re discounting SMF’s EYES. He just knows man. Great evaluator.
there’s not a single thing in my post that is inaccurate. I also think he’s a solid player and want to keep him. Both of those things can be true.
Us being bad has really lowered people’s standards. Any player we have that’s good instantly becomes one of the best in the country and players who put up ok stats on a terrible team are good pieces.
Ignoring the fact that someone is going to score points and rebound whenever we play…
And that if we just throw together like Hugley + 5-6 average to below average players we’ll suddenly have enough to work hard and defend our way to like 13-7 in the ACC which is crazy.
Yep 100 percent. As I’ve stated, he’s better than I thought and he’s a nice player. But he’s not terribly efficient and not a good defender. So talk of him being an all American is insane.
He’s not even gonna be all ACC did u not just read how terribly inefficient he is scoring the ball and how he isn’t an elite rebounder or shot blocker? Lol. Sometimes I wonder if you’re just trolling. You can’t be this dumb
You can’t think racking up 15 fouls is sustainable.
While it's not the only way to judge these things, depending on if you consider Karnik or Post BC's starting center (Karnik starts, Post plays more, when they play together Post plays center), right now Hugley's offensive rating ranks either 13th or 14th out of 15 ACC starting centers. And he certainly doesn't make up for that on the defensive end.
Compare Hugley's offensive rating of 102.0 with, say, Bacot at 124.5, or Osborne at FSU at 132.7, or heck, even Edwards that we saw play for Syracuse last night at 124.4.
Hugley does what he does based on volume, not efficiency.
Compare Hugley's offensive rating of 102.0 with, say, Bacot at 124.5, or Osborne at FSU at 132.7, or heck, even Edwards that we saw play for Syracuse last night at 124.4.
Hugley does what he does based on volume, not efficiency.
It’s a lot easier being dominant at your position when you have the complimentary pieces around you .
Last night Hugley had three guys collapsing on him the second he touched the ball .
The only person missing Horton more than JC is Big John .
The kid has the talent and the potential to be dominant .
Capel stays Hugley stays and vice versa it’s that simple .
As his fitness improves so will his defense .
Pitt finally has a guy to build a winning team around Pitt needs him to stay a Panther .
It's also a lot easier being dominant at your position when your team makes you the focal point of everything they do.
Geez! 14/15th in the ACC on offense!? I knew everyone was overrating him based on his usage but my god!!! All American!!! Give coach a 10 year extension for landing the 14th best center in the conference!
Far be it for me to question SMF’s super eye for talent based on actual stats though!
Remember when you swore up and down that Adams wouldn’t be a one and done lottery pick?
Watching Duke and Wake — big John would be at best the 3rd best center just on Duke.
John is a good college player and I’m glad he’s improved this year .
But there is only one lunatic pretending he’s a dominant force /
Who also has attachment to reality issue more often than not
But there is only one lunatic pretending he’s a dominant force /
Who also has attachment to reality issue more often than not
Yea. I also said Cam and Artis would play in the NBA and people thought that was crazy.
There‘s no denying he’s their best player and he should be the focal point of their offense . Without any consistent outside shooting he’ll be subjected to double and triple teaming the rest of the season which will affect his statistics .
He should be able to kick it back out to wide open shooters which would help his assists numbers , but they don’t have the guys to knock down the open j .
When they play we’ll see if that’s the case .
Those guys also have five stars surrounding them at every position . I doubt that every time they touch the ball 3 guys are all over them .
He did, which makes him filth. I hope you don't have kids.
What official record? This is a silly message board and we're talking about a relatively average to above average player on a terrible team. If Hugley was on a good team, he'd be on the bench most of the game. Let's get real!!! He can't do 2 critical things that are needed to be a better player...play defense and rebound. If he can't do those 2 things, he should be on the bench most of the time. But he's at Pitt and we don't have much else to throw out there.
You need to quit taking this stuff so seriously. It's not a big deal and it's just a game. Everyone on here, including you and me, has opinions, nothing else. That's why a message board is here. For Pitt fans to state opinions. You try and state stuff that you say is fact or that you want people to believe because of your delusional belief that you know more than anyone else. You DON'T! Let that up to people who actually know what they're talking about on this subject.
Oh really? This notion that someone is going to score and rebound. You mean…like in the second half at the Dome? BBInsider has the same take…that points and rebounds have to come from somewhere in any game. (But that was in reference to Horton & Sibande only scoring last season because someone just had to). Then why wasn’t the 61 scored maybe 71? Perhaps because someone didn’t rebound and didn’t score for Pitt? Players are good shooters and good rebounders because they can shoot and get into rebounding position - not because the ball” just has to “fall into somebody’s hands or glance luckily into the basket. I don’t like anything about this team but I have a hard time understanding why stats are begrudged because someone on the team just “has to get the stats.”
Because even the worst shooters in the world or in the NCAA are gonna make like 2/10 shots? So SOMEONE will score points.
And out of 10 misses, some will happen to fall into people’s hands. Some won’t be contested at all, some will be hotly contested, some will be won by the offense. But there’s a lot of times teams are getting back on defense and the weak side guy happens to get a long rebound. It’s just an accumulation stat that has to happen.
The difference between a Hugley and a Bacot is that Bacot does his work efficiently.
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