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Pitt football schedule, could be a bit tougher than I thought preseason

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Penn State- Great Chance they run the table and finish 10-2, might be pushing a Top 10 ranking at that point

North Carolina- Great Chance they run the table and finish 10-2, probably will be in the Top 10 end of regular season

Virginia Tech- Great Chance they run the table, and finish 10-2, and might be close to the Top 10 at seasons end

Oklahoma State- 6-2 right now and lost that game to Central Michigan on a bad call. They probably run the table too, to finish 10-2, and would have been 11-1 had it not been for the bad call. They will move up the polls quickly now after crushing West Virginia.

-And Georgia Tech is 5-3 right now and even Villanova is 6-2. We could have possibly played the Big Ten Champion, Big 12 Champion, and Acc Coastal Champion. No excuses for losing, but we will have played more ranked teams at seasons end with Clemson coming then probably any other team in the country. 5 Possible Top 10 ranked teams at the end of regular season, crazy.

-This also looks like the 2nd year in a row our ooc non conference schedule happens to be light years ahead of everybody else the way things stand right now.
 
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steel_curtain said:
Penn State- Great Chance they run the table and finish 10-2, might be pushing a Top 10 ranking at that point

North Carolina- Great Chance they run the table and finish 10-2, probably will be in the Top 10 end of regular season

Virginia Tech- Great Chance they run the table, and finish 10-2, and might be close to the Top 10 at seasons end

Oklahoma State- 6-2 right now and lost that game to Central Michigan on a bad call. They probably run the table too, to finish 10-2, and would have been 11-1 had it not been for the bad call. They will move up the polls quickly now after crushing West Virginia.

-And Georgia Tech is 5-3 right now and even Villanova is 6-2. We could have possibly played the Big Ten Champion, Big 12 Champion, and Acc Coastal Champion. No excuses for losing, but we will have played more ranked teams at seasons end with Clemson coming then probably any other team in the country. 5 Possible Top 10 ranked teams at the end of regular season, crazy.

-This also looks like the 2nd year in a row our ooc non conference schedule happens to be light years ahead of everybody else the way things stand right now.
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Penn State- Great Chance they run the table and finish 10-2, might be pushing a Top 10 ranking at that point

North Carolina- Great Chance they run the table and finish 10-2, probably will be in the Top 10 end of regular season

Virginia Tech- Great Chance they run the table, and finish 10-2, and might be close to the Top 10 at seasons end

Oklahoma State- 6-2 right now and lost that game to Central Michigan on a bad call. They probably run the table too, to finish 10-2, and would have been 11-1 had it not been for the bad call. They will move up the polls quickly now after crushing West Virginia.

-And Georgia Tech is 5-3 right now and even Villanova is 6-2. We could have possibly played the Big Ten Champion, Big 12 Champion, and Acc Coastal Champion. No excuses for losing, but we will have played more ranked teams at seasons end with Clemson coming then probably any other team in the country. 5 Possible Top 10 ranked teams at the end of regular season, crazy.

-This also looks like the 2nd year in a row our ooc non conference schedule happens to be light years ahead of everybody else the way things stand right now.
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Good to here you change your opinion. Those teams are better than most thought. But it was so obvious when you were overselling us and underselling our opponents in all those many posts of yours that you were not seeing things objectively.
 
I have said we should adopt the Franklin method. Play Elon & Presbyterian while at Vandy, no P5 last year at PSU. Plus playing in the weakest conference doesn't hurt (is there a program worse than Purdue, oh yeah it is Rutgers and Illinois, which happen to be in Big 10).

There was nothing to be gained by playing OSU right after the PSU game. Should have done anything possible to get out of that series, won't help sell tickets next year.
 
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rockypanther said:
Good to here you change your opinion. Those teams are better than most thought. But it was so obvious when you were overselling us and underselling our opponents in all those many posts of yours that you were not seeing things objectively.
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-You keep driving this point yet missing the nail by a mile. I said 8 wins + since the start and Im sticking with it until January when the bowls are over. What other teams do has no meaning on what I said. We lost 3 games in the 4th quarter, 2 in the last minute of the game. Take a look at the schedules of these teams, including Penn State, Oklahoma State, and Virginia Tech. We dont have Rutgers and Purdue and Kansas type pushovers flooded all over.

-There would be about 50 teams undefeated had they played West Virginia's schedule to date. They got raked by Oklahoma State. Inflated Top 10 ranking by beating noone.
 
rockypanther said:
You will get 15,000 season tickets sold at most and yellow seats everywhere if you don't bring in decent teams. We just need to beat the teams put in front of us.
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OSU won't move the needle more than playing Elon in terms of attendance. So why play them and PSU in the same year?
 
Slick Manager of Champs said:
OSU won't move the needle more than playing Elon in terms of attendance. So why play them and PSU in the same year?
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-There's no point. You would sell more tickets by being ranked in the Top 10 and holding it for a few weeks and scheduling a team like Purdue or Rutgers, autowins. We just got unlucky. Iowa and Notre Dame almost came out of nowhere and turned out to be great teams last year. Now Penn State and Ok. State are doing it. Who schedules 2 non conference games every year against teams that win 10+ games? Perhaps we got unlucky with the years these teams happened to be good, as Iowa generally isnt that good, but that is suicide scheduling had we known this ahead of time.
 
OK State is in an easy conference. They lost at home to a MAC school. PSU has an easy schedule. Neither of these two teams are great. Even if they win 10 games. That's why we as an average team beat PSU and should have beaten OSU.
 
rockypanther said:
OK State is in an easy conference. They lost at home to a MAC school. PSU has an easy schedule. Neither of these two teams are great. Even if they win 10 games. That's why we as an average team beat PSU and should have beaten OSU.
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-Penn State beat Ohio State, and Oklahoma State just clowned West Virginia. So you can mock those teams all you like, but they just beat 2 Top 10 ranked teams as it stands now. The only teams that look really good right now are Alabama and Washington. That's it.
 
Penn State is barely ranked. OSU is not ranked. Not a suicide schedule. Add Villanova and Marshall.
 
rockypanther said:
Penn State is barely ranked. OSU is not ranked. Not a suicide schedule. Add Villanova and Marshall.
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-Like I said, watch the rest of the season unfold and see where they stand end of season. You have not looked at the upcoming schedules of ranked teams.
 
steel_curtain said:
-Penn State beat Ohio State, and Oklahoma State just clowned West Virginia. So you can mock those teams all you like, but they just beat 2 Top 10 ranked teams as it stands now. The only teams that look really good right now are Alabama and Washington. That's it.
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They each had an upset. Good for them. But they are not consistently near that level. PSU has no other good wins besides last weeks upset. They got destroyed by Michigan. OSU lost to CMU, and almost Iowa State.

They are both 6-2 and not currently top 15-20 level teams.
 
rockypanther said:
They each had an upset. Good for them. But they are not consistently near that level. PSU has no other good wins besides last weeks upset. They got destroyed by Michigan. OSU lost to Baylor, CMU, and almost Iowa State.

They are both 6-2 and not currently top 15-20 level teams.
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-Penn State is ranked 23rd. So far Navy lost, Utah is about to get crushed, West Virginia just got crushed and will drop hard, good chance Auburn loses today, Florida is currently losing, and Florida State might go down again. Penn State could move up 5 spots just this week. Im not going to argue this, we can revisit this thread in a few weeks to see what happens. Teams like Florida and LSU are going to get slaughtered by seasons end. They have not played any meat on the schedule yet. LSU might finish with 5+ losses.
 
steel_curtain said:
Penn State- Great Chance they run the table and finish 10-2, might be pushing a Top 10 ranking at that point

North Carolina- Great Chance they run the table and finish 10-2, probably will be in the Top 10 end of regular season

Virginia Tech- Great Chance they run the table, and finish 10-2, and might be close to the Top 10 at seasons end

Oklahoma State- 6-2 right now and lost that game to Central Michigan on a bad call. They probably run the table too, to finish 10-2, and would have been 11-1 had it not been for the bad call. They will move up the polls quickly now after crushing West Virginia.

-And Georgia Tech is 5-3 right now and even Villanova is 6-2. We could have possibly played the Big Ten Champion, Big 12 Champion, and Acc Coastal Champion. No excuses for losing, but we will have played more ranked teams at seasons end with Clemson coming then probably any other team in the country. 5 Possible Top 10 ranked teams at the end of regular season, crazy.

-This also looks like the 2nd year in a row our ooc non conference schedule happens to be light years ahead of everybody else the way things stand right now.
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I agree that Pitt's opponents this year seem to be all putting together good seasons. It will be interesting to see their opponents combined W-L record at years end. And PSU can go ahead and go 10-2, or 9-3 or whatever, but any knowledgeable college football fan understands what a GOOD 10 win team looks like and what a FORTUNATE (in terms of scheduling) team looks like.
 
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-You keep driving this point yet missing the nail by a mile. I said 8 wins + since the start and Im sticking with it until January when the bowls are over. What other teams do has no meaning on what I said. We lost 3 games in the 4th quarter, 2 in the last minute of the game. Take a look at the schedules of these teams, including Penn State, Oklahoma State, and Virginia Tech. We dont have Rutgers and Purdue and Kansas type pushovers flooded all over.

-There would be about 50 teams undefeated had they played West Virginia's schedule to date. They got raked by Oklahoma State. Inflated Top 10 ranking by beating noone.
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Actually he is not "missing the nail by a mile." He's right on target. Your over the top assessment
of Pitt was ridiculous at best, and many posters on here told you so. I realize you want what's best
for Pitt, like most of us do on here, but try realizing we do have some problems and it's going to
take an infusion of talent before we get reasonably better. IMO Narduzzi will get us there, but
we're basically where the betting line has us. We were favored to lose by almost the exact point
spread that was listed (not only against VT, but the other losses also). The PSU win was also almost exactly as the point spread had us. 5-3 is to be expected. Finishing 7-5 is reasonable. IF we get 8-5 again, I'd
consider it gravy.
 
Chescat said:
Actually he is not "missing the nail by a mile." He's right on target. Your over the top assessment
of Pitt was ridiculous at best, and many posters on here told you so. I realize you want what's best
for Pitt, like most of us do on here, but try realizing we do have some problems and it's going to
take an infusion of talent before we get reasonably better. IMO Narduzzi will get us there, but
we're basically where the betting line has us. We were favored to lose by almost the exact point
spread that was listed (not only against VT, but the other losses also). The PSU win was also almost exactly as the point spread had us. 5-3 is to be expected. Finishing 7-5 is reasonable. IF we get 8-5 again, I'd
consider it gravy.
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His biggest mistake was thinking we were the only team who would be better and improve. He failed to understand that the other teams would also be improved over the previous year.
 
kma0043 said:
I agree that Pitt's opponents this year seem to be all putting together good seasons. It will be interesting to see their opponents combined W-L record at years end. And PSU can go ahead and go 10-2, or 9-3 or whatever, but any knowledgeable college football fan understands what a GOOD 10 win team looks like and what a FORTUNATE (in terms of scheduling) team looks like.
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-Im just pointing out whats probably going to happen. Pitt fans are going to be pissed if Penn State ends up in the Top 10, but there is a great chance it happens if they run the table.

-Nowadays, teams are not getting punished for creampuff bush league scheduling and its a dam shame. Remember Miami being ranked in the Top 10 earlier this year for beating and running the score up against 3 high school teams earlier this year then got exposed as being a joke. Here's another Example:

-Florida- has wins over Umass, Kentucky, North Texas, Vanderbilt, and Mizzou with a loss to Tennessee. This is worthy of a #12 National Ranking? LOL This is why Florida State annihilated this team last year at the Swamp, and is going to annihilate Florida again this year. 3 of Florida's victories came against teams with less than 2 wins this season. Seriously? Dont get me started on some of the other frauds in the Top 25.
 
I'm not sure it would be accurate to say the BIG is the weakest conference in the power five, sure the bottom feeders are not very good, but every conference including the ACC have teams on the same level as the aforementioned BIG bottom feeders, no conference including the SEC are top to bottom strong, there always will be programs that get beat up on in each conference.
 
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-Im just pointing out whats probably going to happen. Pitt fans are going to be pissed if Penn State ends up in the Top 10, but there is a great chance it happens if they run the table.

-Nowadays, teams are not getting punished for creampuff bush league scheduling and its a dam shame. Remember Miami being ranked in the Top 10 earlier this year for beating and running the score up against 3 high school teams earlier this year then got exposed as being a joke. Here's another Example:

-Florida- has wins over Umass, Kentucky, North Texas, Vanderbilt, and Mizzou with a loss to Tennessee. This is worthy of a #12 National Ranking? LOL This is why Florida State annihilated this team last year at the Swamp, and is going to annihilate Florida again this year. 3 of Florida's victories came against teams with less than 2 wins this season. Seriously? Dont get me started on some of the other frauds in the Top 25.
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You're correct that most of us will be displeased if they finish top 10, but one of their losses is to Pitt, so that's comforting at the least.
 
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I'm not sure it would be accurate to say the BIG is the weakest conference in the power five, sure the bottom feeders are not very good, but every conference including the ACC have teams on the same level as the aforementioned BIG bottom feeders, no conference including the SEC are top to bottom strong, there always will be programs that get beat up on in each conference.
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Boston College would beat Purdue, and Rutgers, twice on Sunday.
 
rockypanther said:
His biggest mistake was thinking we were the only team who would be better and improve. He failed to understand that the other teams would also be improved over the previous year.
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-The only real big surprise this year is Virginia Tech with Jerad Evans, whos had borderline Heisman numbers and came into the Virginia Tech program as a Juco QB. Virginia Tech's offense sucked last year. Between his throwing and running ability, he has single handily uturned their entire offense. What are the odds a first year juco QB comes in and has Heisman type numbers his first season.

-That is the difference in the ACC Coastal Race. He looks like Lamar Jackson light, the front runner to win the Heisman trophy. The ACC has the best QB's in the country by a landslide this year and it isnt even remotely close. This might be the best collection of QB's ever in the ACC in a single season. All of them will be in the draft next year, gutting the talent out. Good luck to all of them finding an equal replacement to what's playing right now. Ill take the ACC up against any conference this year. 4 of the best Top 10 QB's in the country play in the ACC, and if you want to throw Brad Kayaa in there, that's 5 of the Top 10 QB's in the country.
 
rockypanther said:
They each had an upset. Good for them. But they are not consistently near that level. PSU has no other good wins besides last weeks upset. They got destroyed by Michigan. OSU lost to CMU, and almost Iowa State.

They are both 6-2 and not currently top 15-20 level teams.
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Hey dickhead, do you know how Central Michigan won that game? Fans like you can go get hit by a bus
 
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Based on last year's records Pitt and GT had the toughest schedules in the country this season. If anyone ever thought this schedule was going to be anything short of that, I don't know what you've been watching. Most top 25 teams right now would only win about 7 games with our schedule.

It is a must to beat Miami and if we can get to 8 wins again, I'd call that a damn good season with the brutal schedule and pretty poor talent that we have on defense.
 
rockypanther said:
OK State is in an easy conference. They lost at home to a MAC school. PSU has an easy schedule. Neither of these two teams are great. Even if they win 10 games. That's why we as an average team beat PSU and should have beaten OSU.
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Funny stuff.
 
steel_curtain said:
Penn State- Great Chance they run the table and finish 10-2, might be pushing a Top 10 ranking at that point

North Carolina- Great Chance they run the table and finish 10-2, probably will be in the Top 10 end of regular season

Virginia Tech- Great Chance they run the table, and finish 10-2, and might be close to the Top 10 at seasons end

Oklahoma State- 6-2 right now and lost that game to Central Michigan on a bad call. They probably run the table too, to finish 10-2, and would have been 11-1 had it not been for the bad call. They will move up the polls quickly now after crushing West Virginia.

-And Georgia Tech is 5-3 right now and even Villanova is 6-2. We could have possibly played the Big Ten Champion, Big 12 Champion, and Acc Coastal Champion. No excuses for losing, but we will have played more ranked teams at seasons end with Clemson coming then probably any other team in the country. 5 Possible Top 10 ranked teams at the end of regular season, crazy.

-This also looks like the 2nd year in a row our ooc non conference schedule happens to be light years ahead of everybody else the way things stand right now.
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Good point - our schedule has 5 - Top 25 teams on it.
 
vegasgreed said:
Some on here think some quality wins is next to impossible. I disagree.
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-We have 3 losses that have all come in the 4th quarter and we were tied or winning each of those games. Im inclined to believe if we could just change out Terrish Webb for Paris Ford right now, we are sitting at 7-1 instead of 5-3. We are getting very close to the next level, only a few players away to make 1 or 2 additional plays in a game to pile on the wins, dam we are close. We are desperate for another big time playmaker at safety.
 
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Before the season, I had us at 9 or 10 wins , didn't know our D would be this bad. I still believe Duzz will get it done, just want that recruiting to pick up.
 
TD_istheman said:
Before the season, I had us at 9 or 10 wins , didn't know our D would be this bad. I still believe Duzz will get it done, just want that recruiting to pick up.
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-Well, we still play shit Miami, Duke, and Syracuse plus a bowl. That's your 9. Its on the defense to make some plays, most notably, just force a couple turnovers.
 
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