I realize the Pitt stadium issue is pretty hotly debated. But I am just curious as to where Pitt fans would prefer Pitt played games in the future. Please vote in my poll.
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The only ones who will vote for Heinz Field are for selfish personal reasons and not for reasons to benefit Pitt football, Pitt athletics, the University of Pittsburgh and the Oakland community.
At most, it's seven times a year they'll be a little more inconvenienced if at all. You don't like that sell your tickets to others.
At most, it's seven times a year they'll be a little more inconvenienced if at all. You don't like that sell your tickets to others.
Where is the parking coming from? It can be tough to park in Oakland as it is.
How many vehicles are parked in Oakland on a workday as compared to a Saturday? Anyone have that figure? How many people come to Oakland every weekday?
I'd prefer a right sized on campus stadium. I'm also realistic enough to know it's not happening anytime in the near future.
Obviously I wouldnt want tarps ever, it is a dumb idea.
I would watch Pitt games if it was at my local high school, I am a fan, so I dont care what venue. I went to many games at pitt stadium, and Heinz is by far better.
my biggest complaint with pitt stadium was how far back the stands were. I guess now that im older, the steel bleachers would annoy me but at the time, I could have cared less. was never one to care too much about concession or restrooms but in hindsight they were outdated.
loved the location, I actually found a way to get from fifth to stadium without stepping foot on the hill. got to go thru a couple hospitals, falk medical library, an employee only hallway which makes it more interesting, especially carrying a case of beer..
Nothin better than leaving a game and stumbling down a hill into peters or zeldas, cjs, sod, calecos, whatever.
Prefer? On campus not even debatable. Living in reality, I know Heinz is the best and really the only option right now and the foreseeable future.
Fair point, but the majority of non-clinically essential UPMC staff are parking in off campus in lots in places like Second Avenue or Southside Works and being shuttle bused to campus every day. This is after significant numbers of staff migrated from Oakland to the Steel Building in recent years. With the long Bates Street hill climb and then crossing Blvd on foot and grid-locking traffic further, it's not really practical to expect large masses of fans to walk from those lots and very few staff walk it. Workday staff also do not all have the same exact start times, which spreads out the rush hour pain across several hours, while game traffic is more concentrated, especially post-game. If you are shuttling fans that far and eliminating nearly all tailgating options, it may hurt attendance long term more than what would be gained from a stadium located in Oakland. The few hundred people that would cram into Peter's and other spots in Oakland is minimal compared to those now using the much larger bar/restaurant venues and the Casino as tailgate alternatives on the North Shore.
Towerview garage is really the only major capacity UPMC garage that borders campus that doubles as event parking. Since Pitt Staduim crumbled, the development around Oakland has further eliminated other former gameday parking and tailgating options. Oakland is much more developed than it was when the goalposts came down at the end of the Notre Dame final game win.
I enjoyed my student years at Pitt Stadium and love the Oakland campus... I'm just not seeing it as the no-brainer can't miss solution that some are believing.
Prefer - on campus with expansion of T to Oakland as part of a larger project.
Would also be excited for - eventual replacement of Heinz Field with a new shared stadium for Pitt and the Steelers that isn't an ugly open air stadium.
Would also be excited for - eventual replacement of Heinz Field with a new shared stadium for Pitt and the Steelers that isn't an ugly open air stadium.
This.
Yeah, if Pitt could have what Stanford, Minnesota, Baylor, Louisville, TCU or CSU has I'd take it for sure. But, until that's even remotely in the thinking of the future, it's Heinz Field. Which, is fine.
On Campus stadium and not even close.
As someone mentioned above, the expansion of the T would be great if they built an on campus stadium...however, I also think it would be helpful while playing at Heinz. Does anyone know if Pitt or the City ever looked into sending the T to Oakland?
The amenities was more for luring the casual fan. Hence rebranding to "Pittsburgh". As a student, I never noticed them. I went to the games at Pitt Stadium because it was fun. After I graduated, I still went to the games because I was a fan. Yes seat backs are nice, but shouldn't be the reason one goes to a game. Also, unless you are in club section, you still p&$$ in a trough. So that argument doesn't count either.
As someone mentioned above, the expansion of the T would be great if they built an on campus stadium...however, I also think it would be helpful while playing at Heinz. Does anyone know if Pitt or the City ever looked into sending the T to Oakland?
The amenities was more for luring the casual fan. Hence rebranding to "Pittsburgh". As a student, I never noticed them. I went to the games at Pitt Stadium because it was fun. After I graduated, I still went to the games because I was a fan. Yes seat backs are nice, but shouldn't be the reason one goes to a game. Also, unless you are in club section, you still p&$$ in a trough. So that argument doesn't count either.
I haven't heard much T expansion talk lately. Last few times, maybe 2013? were more about the Northside extender going further into the North Hills and/or towards the airport.
My biased opinion living near Shadyside hospital is it should run to my front door by way of Oakland.
My biased opinion living near Shadyside hospital is it should run to my front door by way of Oakland.
It is criminal that there is nothing going to the eastern suburbs. Anything to take pressure off of Squirrel Hill tunnels is long over due.
No offense, my friend, but your question is invalid.
You've given us two options, but one of the options doesn't exist - and it will not exist in the foreseeable future.
It's kinda like asking, "Where would you prefer to live:
A) in your current residence in Pittsburgh, or
B) a beach house in Malibu, where your next door neighbors would be Kate Upton on one side, and the Swedish Bikini Team on the other."
You've given us two options, but one of the options doesn't exist - and it will not exist in the foreseeable future.
It's kinda like asking, "Where would you prefer to live:
A) in your current residence in Pittsburgh, or
B) a beach house in Malibu, where your next door neighbors would be Kate Upton on one side, and the Swedish Bikini Team on the other."
That's because the powers that be have decided that a dedicated bus lane from downtown to Oakland and beyond is the solution to all the traffic problems. I mean PAT's own numbers showed it would cut two minutes off the travel time from Oakland to Downtown. TWO whole minutes! For a quarter of a billion dollars, what more could you ask for?
It originally was built without the track, and the seats were much closer to the field (and capacity was greater). They had to raise the field level to make room for a track, and therefor row one was where row 40 (or some other row far back) was.
and if moron Pederson had really wanted to do some work he would have presented the feasibility studies to the public, gotten input, and started a funding campaign to lower the field, remove the track, and add the luxury boxes and stadium seating. It would have lowered the capacity to about 45,000 which is what people on this board are asking to do with the tarps now.
Why didn't everyone protest when something could have been done? Why did we let Pederson run roughshod over us? I protested. When Pitt called to ask about my yearly donation, I told them if they tore down Pitt stadium they would never see another penny from me. Still true to this day,
This is why Pittsburgh is hanging on to its 300,000+ population by a thread. Narrow provincial thinking, no can do attitude, can't build, no room (although Pittsburgh is the incredible shrinking city). Maybe these attitudes are keeping recruits away?
If Yinzers didn't feel it was their God-given right to tailgate within walking distance to a stadium it'd be no problem. A lot of other schools fans are bused and shuttled to their on-campus stadium and guess what no one bitches and everyone sees campus and the campus and the atmosphere sells itself.
The Oakland area has proven that it can handle parking for large sporting events. Please remember that the Oakland area of Pittsburgh had Pitt Stadium and its 55,000+ seats and Forbes Field and its 35,000+ seats in use for decades. Parking would not be any more of an issue then it is right now at Heinz Field.
You’re using Forbes field which has been gone for 50 years?
Someone please help me understand the point of view for needing an on campus stadium.
Some background on why I may be so out of touch. I was a student in Oakland until DEC 93, then had season tickets through the rest of Pitt Stadium, the one year in Three Rivers, and now Heinz. To me, attendance/atmosphere seem most tied to how well the team is doing, rather than to any of the locations. I remember driving from Johnstown to Pitt Stadium just hoping we'd have more fans there than the opposition some games.
There are a lot of people really adamant that we won't be successful until we play in Oakland again and I'm just not following the logic yet.
H2P
Some background on why I may be so out of touch. I was a student in Oakland until DEC 93, then had season tickets through the rest of Pitt Stadium, the one year in Three Rivers, and now Heinz. To me, attendance/atmosphere seem most tied to how well the team is doing, rather than to any of the locations. I remember driving from Johnstown to Pitt Stadium just hoping we'd have more fans there than the opposition some games.
There are a lot of people really adamant that we won't be successful until we play in Oakland again and I'm just not following the logic yet.
H2P
normal people do, in this city, with our beloved aging demographic, parking and easy access to at least 8 major roadways is top priority. Oh and the seat backs too, everything else is mundane..
There he goes again. High falutin Paco is smarter than everybody else.
Not only that but he can't post or probably speak without using profanity!
What an example!
"Classless"!
My way or the highway posts all the time. Why would any poster respond to his "classless" post.
He always letting people know he'll put them on Ignore? Who cares! Lol!
Upbringing and manners does count.
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It would be cool to have an on campus stadium, but it won't happen. And I don't care how it looks on TV, so I'm against tarps forever. It will be at Heinz Field.
People are looking for reasons why it isn't 1981 anymore. It's simply the mentally laziest low hanging fruit to grab at for explaining why Pitt football doesn't live up to their expectations. It also demands individuals employ an unwillingness to critically assess the realities of the university, athletic department, local politics, and the actual physical environment of the campus. It's the same people, year after year, for 15 years now, saying the same stupid things no matter what information is provided to them.
You must have missed both renaissances when they pretty much completely rebuilt the city.
