Pitt Football venue

[MarshallGoldberg]

is better than 100% of other college stadia I've been in, which is quite a few.

I guess this is where I disagree. I mean I can't literally disagree because I don't know which stadiums you've been to. I mean I am fine with all the "reality" arguments about being off campus, it's where we're at, especially financially -- but compare Heinz Field to Autzen, which is the "right" size, location, and shape to make a really fun, loud atmosphere for a college game, and it's not even close.

The size and design of Heinz basically lets energy escape into the air. Even at the more important and most sold out games I've seen there like the 2009 Cincinnati game, I wouldn't even say it was particularly loud or intimidating for opponents, and not just because our fan base is old. I guess the cup holders and seats are nice.

 

[Pittx9]

Baylor with everything they've been through built a faboulous new football stadium. Pitt could definitely do something similar.

 

[Benu]

Well, for those of you who feel Heinz Field is too big, I agree. We really lack the space, or the cash, to build a new stadium. My idea would be to see if we could work out a plan with the Pirates, to adapt PNC Park to use as our home field. It has everything that Heinz Field has ( parking etc. ) and has the right seating capacity that we are looking for. Just my opinion.

 

[HailtoPitt]

I guess this is where I disagree.

Better watch it, or you are headed to ignore land.

 

[Swervin27]

Well, for those of you who feel Heinz Field is too big, I agree. We really lack the space, or the cash, to build a new stadium. My idea would be to see if we could work out a plan with the Pirates, to adapt PNC Park to use as our home field. It has everything that Heinz Field has ( parking etc. ) and has the right seating capacity that we are looking for. Just my opinion.

too messy, logistics don't work. would have to do the field running up the third base line going out to left field, put in temporary bleacher seats along the other sideline. A lot of work for something that we already have right next door. Clemente wall makes this the only alternative, take a look below in what im talking about.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Baylor with everything they've been through built a faboulous new football stadium. Pitt could definitely do something similar.

Oh come on man, thats BIG oil money.

 

[Swervin27]

Oh come on man, thats BIG oil money.

we need to get some of that Non profit healthcare conglomerate money, maybe team it up with some amazon money and throw in a touch of Marcellus shale money

 

[Pittx9]

Oh come on man, thats BIG oil money.

Ok lol a "Pittsburgh" version of a stadium that size.

 

[mehinpgh]

1. I find it unrealistic that Pitt will ever get another on campus stadium since there is no land
2. I find it financially irresponsible to drop a cool half a billion on a stadium that would LIMIT attendance in the current economy we live in
3. Tuition reform needs to happen country wide at colleges and universities. Building an expensive stadium will not help that
4. If Pitt wins consistently, the 69,000 seats in Heinz Field will not seem too large
5. With Penn State coming in town for 2018, the program will sell tens of thousands of extra season tickets mostly just for that game. Even if butts are not in the seats, at least the program gets the revenue for them being purchased. If we only have the opportunity to sell 40,000 seats in this future stadium, that is lost revenue. If we consistently win, we will sell 58,000 season tickets

 

[OriginalEther]

For selfish reasons, I actually want to see the on campus stadium happen, so that I can laugh my ass off at you guys when it fails to accomplish what you think it would. Just like firing Steve, switching to script, selling beer,.....
I mean sure, it would cost Pitt $250-$500 million dollars to do this, but hey, my own personal amusement is worth it

 

[Swervin27]

For selfish reasons, I actually want to see the on campus stadium happen, so that I can laugh my ass off at you guys when it fails to accomplish what you think it would. Just like firing Steve, switching to script, selling beer,.....
I mean sure, it would cost Pitt $250-$500 million dollars to do this, but hey, my own personal amusement is worth it

it would most likely not be an eyesore, it would be much smaller than Heinz and it would allow us to actually go to Oakland and not the north side on saturdays in the fall so yeah, if that would amuse you, so be it. you'd be amused and we'd be having a great time in Oakland, a win win for everyone..

switching to script was a failure? In what world do you live in? originalether wants to go back to dinocat logo, can someone run to the KMart or Hills and see if they have any old pitt gear in the lost and found that no one claimed?

 

[OriginalEther]

it would most likely not be an eyesore, it would be much smaller than Heinz and it would allow us to actually go to Oakland and not the north side on saturdays in the fall so yeah, if that would amuse you, so be it. you'd be amused and we'd be having a great time in Oakland, a win win for everyone..

switching to script was a failure? In what world do you live in? originalether wants to go back to dinocat logo, can someone run to the KMart or Hills and see if they have any old pitt gear in the lost and found that no one claimed?

I thought switching to script was going to increase attendance? You know, just like how selling beer would
At yet, here we are, having spent an entire bitching how there’s even more empty seats, despite doing things that all the so called experts said would bring people to the games
Why would this be any different?

 

[Swervin27]

I thought switching to script was going to increase attendance? You know, just like how selling beer would
At yet, here we are, having spent an entire bitching how there’s even more empty seats, despite doing things that all the so called experts said would bring people to the games
Why would this be any different?

wait, you thought script was going to increase attendance? why would you think that? very few people said beer sales would help that much as far as attendance.

$8 dollar coors light drafts aren't a big sell. pitt fans that wanted it did so mostly to be able to have a beer at the game. If anything, it may help close the tailgates down quicker but rest assured, im still out there in the lots well past kickoff..

the only argument for beer sales is why not? Pitt fans aren't rowdy enough to stand up, drunken riots aren't much of a fear at noon from a fan base that is more concerned with getting home as quickly as possible..

any other strawman arguments I can rip apart or is that is that it for now?

 

[HailtoPitt]

I thought switching to script was going to increase attendance? You know, just like how selling beer would
At yet, here we are, having spent an entire bitching how there’s even more empty seats, despite doing things that all the so called experts said would bring people to the games
Why would this be any different?

Nobody said that. #Strawman

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

I can't deal with such unending stupidity. Welcome to ignore.

 

[PantherO]

On Campus Stadium
-- Is part of Student Life (fond memories and someday donating and becoming fans)
-- Allows Alumni to visit the campus more often and remember the good times of going to games when they were students (and possibly donate out of fond memories)
-- Allows the Students to connect to football (and the university) Thus possibly donating in the future
-- Students don't care about all the amenities that the rich snobs do. (SP crowd)
-- Hard to storm the field on big wins when rooney's cronies are surrounding the field to protect their (our) investment (Build fond memories for the students and some day buy season tickets and donate)

Pitt is currently alienating the student fan base. We are losing older alumni to age (death).

Anyone whose soul is bigger than their wallet would agree an on campus stadium is a necessity. After all, we are one of the very few that think it is a good idea to be off campus...and when I say we, I mean Steve P, the Admin, and Paco.

 

[HailtoPitt]

In a related note, Pitt just paid $1.9M for a building on a half acre of property along Forbes. That's $3.8M per acre. Heinz Field takes up around 12 acres of space. Seattle's CenturyLink Field is 30 acres. Considering that Pitt owns much of the land in Oakland, it is beyond feasible that Pitt could have acquired enough property at a reasonable price to build a stadium with a modest footprint.

 

[Pittfan85]

You know, it is really tough to have a logical argument with people Ryan don’t deal in reality. It is really frustrating to have someone consistently ignore facts.

 

[H2P-2007]

I dont mean to bring crazy talk into this discussion, but I just do not get why its either Heinz Field or on campus. How about neither?

To me, the best case realistic outcome is a stadium in another location (perhaps Hazlewood?) that is primarily built with Pitt in mind.

 

[Seneca_Valley]

For selfish reasons, I actually want to see the on campus stadium happen, so that I can laugh my ass off at you guys when it fails to accomplish what you think it would. Just like firing Steve, switching to script, selling beer,.....
I mean sure, it would cost Pitt $250-$500 million dollars to do this, but hey, my own personal amusement is worth it

Canning Pedersen got me back to buying club season tickets again.

 

[OriginalEther]

wait, you thought script was going to increase attendance? why would you think that? very few people said beer sales would help that much as far as attendance.

$8 dollar coors light drafts aren't a big sell. pitt fans that wanted it did so mostly to be able to have a beer at the game. If anything, it may help close the tailgates down quicker but rest assured, im still out there in the lots well past kickoff..

the only argument for beer sales is why not? Pitt fans aren't rowdy enough to stand up, drunken riots aren't much of a fear at noon from a fan base that is more concerned with getting home as quickly as possible..

any other strawman arguments I can rip apart or is that is that it for now?

Nobody said that. #Strawman

Lol.......No straw man
Just repeating some of numerous statements posted here over the years, that if Pitt did this and Pitt did that, more people would go to the games. Only for Pitt to actually do these things, and more people didn’t show up; apparently, it caused more people to stay home
Heinz Field is just another boogie man for you guys; a new stadium isn’t doing to do a dang thing. Only difference is this time fulfilling your fantasy costs Pitt at least a quarter of a billion dollars

 

[Swervin27]

Lol.......No straw man
Just repeating some of numerous statements posted here over the years, that if Pitt did this and Pitt did that, more people would go to the games. Only for Pitt to actually do these things, and more people didn’t show up; apparently, it caused more people to stay home
Heinz Field is just another boogie man for you guys; a new stadium isn’t doing to do a dang thing. Only difference is this time fulfilling your fantasy costs Pitt at least a quarter of a billion dollars

Pitt athletic dept served us up a big sh*t burger in the form of Heinz field and not only do we have to eat it but enjoy it too? Got it ether, you are a wonderful fan and the school appreciates your unwavering support

 

[HailToPitt725]

Love the logical fallacies being brought up Swervin, it seems like you misinterpreted what Ether was saying. He wasn't actually saying it would, he was just asking a rhetorical question. Regardless, the correlation wouldn't be a strawman; It'd actually be a false cause since he'd be misinterpreting the relationship between the two. You may have actually pulled a strawman when you misrepresented his argument!

Sorry, but it's not often I can combine curriculum and Pitt