Pitt in the ACC

[GeorgeCostanza-Aston]

Excluding the lack of acc network availability I have to say that the move to the acc has provided some fun football. Looking back at the first 6.5 seasons im mildly impressed that the program has been as successful as it has been. Here is pitts record vs acc teams:

Louisville 1-0
Wake Forest 1-0
BC 1-0
Duke 6-1
UVA 5-2
Syracyse 5-2
VT 3-3
GT 3-3
Clemson 1-1
Notre Dame 1-2
Miami 2-4
NC St 0-1
FSU 0-1
UNC 0-6

The UNC thing is truly bizarre. They’ve had some
awful teams pull out victories against stacked pitt teams. Other than that it’s been a pretty fun ride. Pitt has a shot to do some serious program building in the next 6 weeks.

 

[Gep Dawg]

I think ACC was the best option for the circumstances. But I miss the old Big East. Almost every games was on TV and the few that werent you could watch online. Everybody talks about how waterdowned the league was but is the ACC really much better if Clemson is not in the mix?

 

[rmf05]

Our division is just the BE with more name recognition. The North Carolina thing is strange but so is 5-1 against Duke.

The real impact of the ACC is in our other programs. No other conference would've been positive. The future seems bright.

 

[Dan1911]

Is pitt having more success in the acc than they did in the Big Esat/football?

 

[Delpanther]

I think ACC was the best option for the circumstances. But I miss the old Big East. Almost every games was on TV and the few that werent you could watch online. Everybody talks about how waterdowned the league was but is the ACC really much better if Clemson is not in the mix?

Ucon, Cinci , Rutgers, USF... what a motley collection of crud.

 

[HailToPitt725]

I think ACC was the best option for the circumstances. But I miss the old Big East. Almost every games was on TV and the few that werent you could watch online. Everybody talks about how waterdowned the league was but is the ACC really much better if Clemson is not in the mix?

I’d say yes. It may not be right now (and for our sake I’m OK with that) but my reasoning is that if schools like Florida State and Miami can re-emerge as national contenders, we’re just as good as any other conference not named the SEC or B1G.

I’d argue that the ACC’s depth compared to the Big East is somewhat equal (albeit apples to oranges considering the number of schools) but we have a higher top-tier school potential, IMO, which the Big East did not.

 

[Gep Dawg]

Ucon, Cinci , Rutgers, USF... what a motley collection of crud.

These teams were all ranked and producing NFL talent when in the old big east. Certainly no worse than the crud in the other power conferences.

 

[PittFamily2]

I think ACC was the best option for the circumstances. But I miss the old Big East. Almost every games was on TV and the few that werent you could watch online. Everybody talks about how waterdowned the league was but is the ACC really much better if Clemson is not in the mix?

It's just like I miss being poor, with no money, when I had to walk to work because my car didn't run half the time, and now I'm rich and can have someone drive me to work if I want.

I don't I like to drive my own nice car.

 

[Delpanther]

These teams were all ranked and producing NFL talent when in the old big east. Certainly no worse than the crud in the other power conferences.

Garbage stadiums, few fans, no tradition... quintessential crud!

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

It is wild we're in the same conference as teams like Florida State we've only played one time in seven years. Or NC State we'll have played once between joining the ACC and midway through 2024.

 

[NCanton Panther]

It is wild we're in the same conference as teams like Florida State we've only played one time in seven years. Or NC State we'll have played once between joining the ACC and midway through 2024.

Yep, seems like we’ve been in the ACC forever now but we’ve only played FSU, Clemson and others only 1 time. I know it’s not a popular opinion but that’s is why I’d be in favor of going to a 9-game conference schedule. We’d get to see these other ACC teams a little more frequently and it would hopefully replace a nondescript OOC game.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I think ACC was the best option for the circumstances. But I miss the old Big East. Almost every games was on TV and the few that werent you could watch online. Everybody talks about how waterdowned the league was but is the ACC really much better if Clemson is not in the mix?

The Big East we left was bettet than the Coastal but still would rather be in the ACC obviously.

 

[Las Panteras]

I’d say yes. It may not be right now (and for our sake I’m OK with that) but my reasoning is that if schools like Florida State and Miami can re-emerge as national contenders, we’re just as good as any other conference not named the SEC or B1G.

I’d argue that the ACC’s depth compared to the Big East is somewhat equal (albeit apples to oranges considering the number of schools) but we have a higher top-tier school potential, IMO, which the Big East did not.

I agree with this.

In fact, for all of the disappointment over comcast ignoring the ACC network, that will change overnight if the football schools with a winning past (Pitt, Va Tech, Miami and FSU)

Get their collective heads out their asses.

 

[pittman71]

I’d rather be in the Big Ten but oh well.

I wonder if Pitt’s football recruiting would have been helped by Pitt being in the Big Ten vs. the ACC. Hypotheticals as it will never happen

Honestly Maryland and Pitt need to switch conferences

 

[tetonpanther]

The Big East sucked. Damn glad the ACC threw us a lifeline. The years Va Tech and the U dominated us Walt was going up against the best U team money could buy. It has been documented. Eff the Big fecEast Eff Stevie and lastly damn sure eff Nerdy.

 

[Las Panteras]

The big east hurt Pitt far more than it helped us.

Heck, we play half of the BE football schools every year anyway.

Doe this program really need Rutgers? Cincinnati with that ridiculous trophy?

Of course not

 

[ThePanthers]

The Big East sucked. Damn glad the ACC threw us a lifeline. The years Va Tech and the U dominated us Walt was going up against the best U team money could buy. It has been documented. Eff the Big fecEast Eff Stevie and lastly damn sure eff Nerdy.

Nerdy and steve helped get us into the acc. They have their warts, but they also turned around one of the worst run athletic departments in the 90s.

 

[tetonpanther]

Nerdy and steve helped get us into the acc. They have their warts, but they also turned around one of the worst run athletic departments in the 90s.

That is nonsense. I have this on authority of a former player and Golden Panther. The ACC wanted UConn for hoops reasons obviously. Boston College blackballed UConn .The next call was to Pitt. In the words of my friend. " All Nordenberg did was take the call." Smiling Stevie most assuredly did not do shit. But if the apologists want to believe that nonsense enjoy yourself.

 

[ThePanthers]

That is nonsense. I have this on authority of a former player and Golden Panther. The ACC wanted UConn for hoops reasons obviously. Boston College blackballed UConn .The next call was to Pitt. In the words of my friend. " All Nordenberg did was take the call." Smiling Stevie most assuredly did not do shit. But if the apologists want to believe that nonsense enjoy yourself.

Been through this a million times. All mighty Boston college did not blackball anyone.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

The ACC gets panned for its Clemson + mediocrity. But of all the conferences, I think it is the most balanced conference institution wise in regards to football. Aside from Clemson, you aren't going to get that 110K white out, football will always be important but nowhere will it be the mission statement driver aside from maybe FSU (and Clemson). But Clemson wasn't always like it is now.

But the schools, resource wise, fanbase wise, are all fairly equal. Obviously as in any group, there are individuals with more, and individuals with less, but there isn't the gap here like say Alabama, LSU, Florida, Georgia and then Vandy and Mississippi State. Or Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and say Rutgers. Or Texas and Oklahoma and WVU and Kansas.

So any program at the bottom, can make an impact with the right coaching hire (see Duke or Wake) or the wrong coaching hire (see Miami and especially Florida State).

So......we are definitely in the right conference. We may miss those white outs and that, but we are where we belong.

 

[PushupMan]

Yep, seems like we’ve been in the ACC forever now but we’ve only played FSU, Clemson and others only 1 time. I know it’s not a popular opinion but that’s is why I’d be in favor of going to a 9-game conference schedule. We’d get to see these other ACC teams a little more frequently and it would hopefully replace a nondescript OOC game.

Not quite the same thing, but if I were running the ACC, I’d be looking at creating a bowl game that would feature one Coastal team against one Atlantic team, and airing it on the ACC Network. With Pitt only seeing Louisville, Wake Forest, BC, Clemson, NC State, and FSU every 6 years, it makes as much sense to match them up in a bowl game as it does to match Pitt against Navy, Bowling Green or Houston.

 

[tetonpanther]

Been through this a million times. All mighty Boston college did not blackball anyone.

sorry chieftain BC could and did block them. That is BC market and they defended their turf. UVA could have blocked Va Tech but the state mandated that UVA agree to Va Tech admission. Nerdy was good for academics a sham for football.

 

[ThePanthers]

sorry chieftain BC could and did block them. That is BC market and they defended their turf. UVA could have blocked Va Tech but the state mandated that UVA agree to Va Tech admission. Nerdy was good for academics a sham for football.

Ok.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

sorry chieftain BC could and did block them. That is BC market and they defended their turf. UVA could have blocked Va Tech but the state mandated that UVA agree to Va Tech admission. Nerdy was good for academics a sham for football.

No one gives me credit when all of you fools hung over every "Big Panther" post, and the one telling you all to relax, "smart people, good people, trustworthy people" are on this and BC would never leave the Big East. At the same time I am posting Gene DeFelippo (then BC AD) was calling a press conference to announce BC leaving for the ACC.

So I post it, and I get blasted by the disciples of Big P. I was right. He was wrong. But people still wouldn't believe me.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

The problem with conferences being so big is now even the divisions are big. The options are either a 9 game conference schedule (which means less diversity in scheduling non conference games), or an 8 game conference schedule (which means less diversity in seeing your opposite division opponents.)

There is no good solution, it's just a shame. And in too many cases, for historic rivalries as well.

 

[CrazyPaco]

That is nonsense. I have this on authority of a former player and Golden Panther. The ACC wanted UConn for hoops reasons obviously. Boston College blackballed UConn .The next call was to Pitt. In the words of my friend. " All Nordenberg did was take the call." Smiling Stevie most assuredly did not do shit. But if the apologists want to believe that nonsense enjoy yourself.

Your “authority” is completely wrong.

 

[Delpanther]

Your “authority” is completely wrong.

If Nerdy has anything to do with it. Pitt would be playing in the MAC. Pedersen was a bumbling idiot hired twice by a feckless chancellor who added insult to injury by giving him a golden parachute.

 

[pittman71]

The problem with conferences being so big is now even the divisions are big. The options are either a 9 game conference schedule (which means less diversity in scheduling non conference games), or an 8 game conference schedule (which means less diversity in seeing your opposite division opponents.)

There is no good solution, it's just a shame. And in too many cases, for historic rivalries as well.

there is no sane reason for Maryland to not still be in the ACC, playing their long time rivals annually, and for Pitt to be in the Big Ten, instead of Rutgers, and battling Ohio State and Penn State every year. I wasn’t following closely back then but I suppose Paterno has something to do with the Big Ten not inviting Pitt. But Maryland joining the Big Ten was asinine and stupid

 

[giveitarest]

Frankly I miss all those Big (L)East Football championships we won!!!!!

 

[tetonpanther]

No one gives me credit when all of you fools hung over every "Big Panther" post, and the one telling you all to relax, "smart people, good people, trustworthy people" are on this and BC would never leave the Big East. At the same time I am posting Gene DeFelippo (then BC AD) was calling a press conference to announce BC leaving for the ACC.

So I post it, and I get blasted by the disciples of Big P. I was right. He was wrong. But people still wouldn't believe me.

Hope you aren't putting me in the Big panther category. he was a blow hard and an asshole. Had his hed far up Stevie ass .

 

[steelcurtain55.]

there is no sane reason for Maryland to not still be in the ACC, playing their long time rivals annually, and for Pitt to be in the Big Ten, instead of Rutgers, and battling Ohio State and Penn State every year. I wasn’t following closely back then but I suppose Paterno has something to do with the Big Ten not inviting Pitt. But Maryland joining the Big Ten was asinine and stupid

I agree that it's dumb, but they were millions in debt and the b10 got them out of the red overnight.

 

[PittFamily2]

I’d say yes. It may not be right now (and for our sake I’m OK with that) but my reasoning is that if schools like Florida State and Miami can re-emerge as national contenders, we’re just as good as any other conference not named the SEC or B1G.

I’d argue that the ACC’s depth compared to the Big East is somewhat equal (albeit apples to oranges considering the number of schools) but we have a higher top-tier school potential, IMO, which the Big East did not.

Conferences run in cycles just like most everything else.

Programs like the teams below all had great history and will emerge as great programs again.

Be careful what we wish for it may happen all at the same time.

Clemson
Florida St
PITT
Syracuse
Miami
V. Tech
Virginia
NC State
GT

The ACC is bit down, no dumpster fires like Rutgers, lots of average to above average p5 teams.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

there is no sane reason for Maryland to not still be in the ACC, playing their long time rivals annually, and for Pitt to be in the Big Ten, instead of Rutgers, and battling Ohio State and Penn State every year. I wasn’t following closely back then but I suppose Paterno has something to do with the Big Ten not inviting Pitt. But Maryland joining the Big Ten was asinine and stupid

Yeah steelcurtain55 nailed it, basically Maryland dropped seven non-revenue sports and lost a ton of money trying to expand a football stadium they can't fill to begin with. It was a Big 10 bailout in exchange for another TV market for the Big 10 network. Rutgers story isn't that different really, except they're still subsidizing a deficit athletic department in the eight figures range. Though that's down from the remarkable $27 million they lost on sports in 2011.

 

[OriginalEther]

Ok.

You can’t convince a Neanderthal that he’s wrong
He’ll remain convinced forever that rest of the ACC wanted UConn, but a single northern Catholic school had the clout to stop them. And all because that means he’d have to give credit to a couple of his boogeymen

 

[tetonpanther]

You can’t convince a Neanderthal that he’s wrong
He’ll remain convinced forever that rest of the ACC wanted UConn, but a single northern Catholic school had the clout to stop them. And all because that means he’d have to give credit to a couple of his boogeymen

You guys need to give up your cult like adoration to a guy who damn near caused us to end up like Tulane freaking irrelevant. Thanks Nerdy. Nerdy had nothing to do with the ACC invite. .

 

[upj87]

Our division is just the BE with more name recognition. The North Carolina thing is strange but so is 5-1 against Duke.

The real impact of the ACC is in our other programs. No other conference would've been positive. The future seems bright.

The North Carolina thing is strange but so is 5-1 against Duke....Duke? why?

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

there is no sane reason for Maryland to not still be in the ACC, playing their long time rivals annually, and for Pitt to be in the Big Ten, instead of Rutgers, and battling Ohio State and Penn State every year. I wasn’t following closely back then but I suppose Paterno has something to do with the Big Ten not inviting Pitt. But Maryland joining the Big Ten was asinine and stupid

Paterno didn't have that kind of clout. Delaney has said that expansion was driven on getting the B1G new markets and Pitt didn't do that since he felt PSU delivered Western PA. Judging by the idiot Pittsburgh media covering a school that is three hours away as "local", I'd say he is right,

Plus I still think he didn't want anything taking away from O$U-Michigan and Pitt-PSU had the potential to do that. Little brown jug? Yeah right, no other Big ten rivalry game would come close. Pitt-PSU could have equaled "The Game"

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

So......we are definitely in the right conference. We may miss those white outs and that, but we are where we belong.

In this landscape yes, but the ideal was still an all-eastern conference. Pitt-PSU could have been as big as Alabama-Auburn or Michigan-O$U on Thanksgiving weekend. Eastern football doesn't exist as an identity anymore, lost in the south & midwest somewhere and that's a shame.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

In this landscape yes, but the ideal was still an all-eastern conference. Pitt-PSU could have been as big as Alabama-Auburn or Michigan-O$U on Thanksgiving weekend. Eastern football doesn't exist as an identity anymore, lost in the south & midwest somewhere and that's a shame.

Oh,......no doubt. Having the old Eastern Independents, Pitt, PSU, Cuse, WVU, Miami, FSU, VT, BC, Rutgers and Navy would have been great. You probably could land at least a similar deal with ND. Maryland would have their hand up so fast to join.

 

[SisadaPITT]

sorry chieftain BC could and did block them. That is BC market and they defended their turf. UVA could have blocked Va Tech but the state mandated that UVA agree to Va Tech admission. Nerdy was good for academics a sham for football.

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