Pitts opponents that they beat are 2-11 on the year
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Teams they lost to are 9-4 and two are ranked. Should that be part of the rationale, too?
We are in Year 6. Our program is supposed to get better not worse. We had a dynamic offense in 2016 and now look what we have.
You should start another anti-Duzz thread to tell everyone. We don't have nearly enough of those.
I didn’t start this thread Bud. I supported the guy up until recently. At some point you have to stop making excuses and look at everything that has transpired over his tenure. This was supposed to be his break out year.
You're pretty committed to the cause. Just a suggestion. I really don't know where all the "breakout year" stuff came from when Vegas had them sitting at 6.5 wins. I was only calling attention to the other side of the coin since it's fashionable to only look at the negatives. You'll probably get two more years of Duzz so enjoy the ride.
And wasn’t that win total based on the original schedule, which was more win-friendly than the one we are playing?
I can't recall other than the immediate reaction to the new schedule was that it would be difficult.
That doesn't really make it more excusable. The fact that you're only predicted to win 6.5 game against a weak schedule in year six of your tenure is an indictment in and of itself. It's not like you can win 6 and say, "Well, this is about how well Vegas thought we would do, so it must be a success."
The schedule wasn't "weak" before. Just go harder.
Honestly, I'm going to miss a lot of you who are betting huge money on Pitt's failure. I can't imagine you'll still be giving that advice away for free much longer.
Nah, it was pretty weak.
Notre Dame, Marshall, Richmond, Miami of Ohio
Crossover: Syracuse and a Florida State team is complete disarray
The incredibly modest ACC Coastal
... That's weak. I don't know how much less you could ask for from a P5 schedule.
It was Covid-19's breakout year.
Attendance is at an all time low too. I blame Narduzzi.
Right. Although that number was based on a 12-game schedule, if it was from the original.
The teams that Notre Dame has beaten are 5-16 and they are ranked #3 in the nation.
I know. But my point is that you can't have a shitty record and then come back and say, "Well that's what we were predicted to have, so I'm performing to expectations." Expectations should include not being predicted to have a shitty record in year six in the first place.
Richmond - Austin Peay - Push, both should be rent a victim
Marshall was a road game, Added Clemson instead. Both probably a loss, although there was a better chance of beating Marshall obviously
Miami of Ohio - scratch from schedule.
UNC-NC State - Push, we all know the track record against UNC, so I would say UNC was actually the harder matchup.
Duke-Louisville - Push, Duke is one of the few teams that Narduzzi seems to have their number
All other games the same.
So there was one most likely easy win removed from the schedule, with a toss up on Clemson-Marshall.
Not sure that was the point you were making, but I thought I would address the point of anyone saying the old schedule was significantly different from the current one.
People used the same excuse last year to defend the collapse at the end of the year.
I also remember after the Ohiogame that we won 20-10 people were pimping we covered the spread.
Weird. You've only been on the board for a couple weeks.
My point was that our original schedule, as far as P5 schedules go, was pretty damn light.
It has gotten tougher, in my opinion.
Out: Duke, Virginia, Richmond, Miami of Ohio, Marshall, North Carolina
In: NC State, Boston College, Clemson, Austin Peay, Louisville
(I see that as likely 4-2, as opposed to likely 2-3)
But that wasn't my point.
Damning? I mean, I don't know what your expectations were. All of the monday morning QB stuff is cool but I don't know why everyone is acting surprised that a school that is recruiting in the 40's is a pretty middle of the road program that's usually good for 8 wins.
I forgot BC-Virginia. Virginia was coastal champ last year, but pretty bad this year. Before the season this would be a Push, but now slight edge to BC being tougher.
So on the comparison, where do you see the sure wins coming in? I wouldn't say Marshall was an easy win, easier obviously than playing Clemson. So that game, and maybe BC-Virginia is not a push. So current is only SLIGHTLY tougher, if at all (Marshall would have been very similar to toledo in 2003 or Ohio in 2005. Very difficult to play on the road, plus they have a good team this year)
I assume we would have beat Duke, Virginia, Richmond, and Miami of Ohio. Duke and Virginia suck. If we only lost to BC (who pounded Duke) and NC State (who pounded UVA and beat Duke comfortably) each by one point, I have to assume we would have at least beat Duke and Virginia. I mean, you can only guess to a point, but I'm comfortable with that logic.
And that's with me treating Marshall as a loss, but I think we very much COULD have won that game. I'd say it would have been 50/50ish.
So I just can't see us doing any worse than 4-2 against that group.
And I have the benefit of hindsight for every game except Clemson for the new additions.
And what is going to bring about Narduzzi's sudden grasping of what he needs to do as the head coach? I can't believe there are people around who think everything is just peachy.. Part of the problem.
And unless he produces a miracle the drumbeat to run him out will only get stronger.
Come on. Being predicted to go 6-6 in year six should be grounds for being fired. 6-6 likely means ou went 3-5 in the ACC which is inexcusable.
Maybe I’m mistaken, but I don’t remember seeing anyone in Vegas that put out college football win totals this year due to virus uncertainty. It’s way too much trouble from the books perspective as if any games are moved or cancelled you basically have to refund all those tickets.
Didn’t say it was peachy. We just have people around here who forget what it’s like to start over.
Pitt ditches Duzz in December. What’s your plan and what are your expectations? If it’s ten wins, what are you doing to convince someone it’s doable and that you’ll suddenly find the resources to do it?
Maybe so, but I’m saying I live in Las Vegas and unless someone threw them up late no one in town booked them this year.
I don’t know. It’s been 6.5 the last few years. Perhaps I am mistaken. I just don’t know where these expectations of greatness came from.
I actually got over 5.5 (heavily juiced) a couple years ago. Few teams are more consistent than Pitt, they are always around 6 O/U.
Just to make it worse. NC St is getting crushed by #14 NC. Showing again what a mediocre team NC St is.
They didn’t have their starting QB which made a big difference, but UNC is clearly ahead of us in regards to talent.
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