Players by school playing in NFL Championship game next weekend
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It’s called feel good information…
Don't be ridiculous. There was that one 5-star out of 25 in the class who sucked and that one 2-star out of 4,900 in the class who was pretty good. If that doesn't tell you that recruiting rankings mean nothing, I don't know what does!
LMAO. Yeah he's a real disappointment as a HC.
Five years, 55-10 at OU, highest winning percentage in school history, 4 B12 championships, 3 CFP appearances, 2 Heisman winners.
Pretty sure they're like WTF now that Riley's gone, a career DC has taken his place, and they have had their first losing season since 1998.
zero playoff wins with all that talent and routinely embarrassed in the biggest games.
sheesh
(Hands over hears and humming loudly)
I've still got a 1 in 500 million chance to hit the Powerball, so I'll show you soon enough!
It's important enough that some schools embarrass themselves over trying to brag about it. Like a certain school saying they've had a player in every Super Bowl and then putting "except three" in tiny, fine print. Still impressive but another self-own.
Good.... That's the first step to recovery......Knowing when you are wrong and being stupid... Your apology is accepted..... Now beat it....
The only time Oklahoma got "embarrassed" in the CFP was when LSU rolled them. But LSU embarrassed everyone in their 2019 run.
That double OT CFP loss to UGA, which lost the championship game to Bama by 3 points in OT, was real embarrassing.
"All that talent" on those OU teams isn't even close to the overall team talent that the Bamas, UGAs, Clemsons LSUs and OSUs have had in their championship seasons.
And lastly, making the CFP at all is a huge coaching achievement; making it 4 years in a row is monumental.
Riley is an elite head coach. That is really indisputable.
Your take here is consistent with your obvious and weird disdain for coaches who are considered offensive innovators that favor spreading the field and throwing the ball using tempo to get as many offensive snaps in as possible. Those concepts are here to stay. You might as well get used to it.
Sheesh.
Except there are 14 teams ahead of us, so it's really the we're tied for 15th place with 12 other teams award.
Hooray us!
That's an odd play for someone posting on the same web site. In any event, my life is just fine. If you think that it's important to comment on how often someone else has posted on the same web site that you post on, however, you may want to avoid the mirror.
You don't think losing to Kansas State and Iowa State in 2020 was embarrassing? Kansas State was 4-6 that year and Iowa State while pretty good isn't Oklahoma. How about losing to Kansas State in 2019? What did you think of their overtime win over non scholarship triple option Army in in 2018? How about losing to 8-5 Iowa State in 2017. I know the Oklahoma coaches were pretty embarrassed by those performances.
Do you really think Oklahoma wasn't even close to what Clemson has done in recruiting up to that point? According to the Rivals average star ranking it seems they were pretty darn close.
I think he is as well. I'm a pretty big Riley fan.
I have zero disdain for Lincoln's offense. He runs a smashmouth spread. I loved when he began abandoning or lessening his zone stuff for more gap stuff.
Do I have a disdain for spread teams - nope. I love Willie Fritz's stuff. I love Bob DeBeese's stuff. I like Sark's stuff. etc etc etc..
Do I like tempo when it's run all game - nope, never have and never will. Do I like it when it's used as a change up - for sure.
My disdain for Lincoln is he seems to forget that for all the offense he has in his pocket, the game still comes to down blocking and tackling. His defenses are literally embarrassing regardless of who they recruit against. I've seen the fine gentleman at West Point damn near break his top 10 classes in 1/2 with a simple zone dive. I've seen Utah run it right down his throat - at will. I've seen the might Green Wave of Tulane make it look like tackling is illegal on the west coast.
The last time Oklahoma won a National Title and played for a National Title they had a defensive coach by the name of Bobby Stoops.
Sheesh..
This is funny. You said: "routinely embarrassed in the biggest games." I said, other than LSU, who embarrassed everyone, not true. Instead of just staying quiet or admitting you're wrong, you shift the narrative and pull out a couple of regular season losses against conference opponents over a span of 5 years and a close win against Army. Brilliant.
Saying "I love Lincoln Riley as an OC but Okie fans have to be like wtf?", then saying you do view him as en elite HC is a bit of a contradiction, isn't it?
So I guess it comes down to this--you don't like the way Riley wins, with great offense and defense as an afterthought. But it doesn't change the fact that he wins, and wins a ton, more than just about anyone not named Smart or Saban. I hope you're not seriously slagging on his first season at USC, when he inherited a roster in shambles and went 11-2 in the regular season and came one game away from making the CFP--in YEAR ONE.
Criticizing Riley's defenses is fair. He clearly emphasizes the offensive side of things and his recruiting and the players he's put in the NFL have reflected that. The southern heavies--Bama, UGA, Clemson, LSU--have built in recruiting advantages over Oklahoma when it comes to recruiting defensive talent, especially all-important D line talent. They don't have to drive 3 hours in any direction to get all they need.
As far as losses to inferior opponents during the regular season and close wins over highly inferior opponents, what team doesn't have some of those?? It's laughable to throw those out there like they mean anything. Remember a decidedly mediocre Pitt team knocking off national champion Clemson? What about UGA squeaking out a last minute, 4 point win over mighty Mizzou this year?
Bob Stoops is a great coach who did a great job at Oklahoma. He combined good offense with strong defense. Riley got the same kind of results doing it his own way. I very much doubt Stoops would have done any better than Riley in those CFP games. Oklahoma didn't have the horses that their CFP opponents did. Neither did anyone else in the country in those years. It's not an accident that the national championship is won by one of the same 3-4 teams every single year since the CFP began.
As for Riley, I think he'll be back to the CFP in short order, and will be able to assemble better overall team talent at USC than he could at Oklahoma. As for those diehard Oklahoma fans, I'm pretty sure they'd sell their own body parts to have Riley back. Going from Lincoln to Venables as HC is like trading your Porsche 911 for a 2012 Chevy Avalanche.
But hey, I'm sure the OU defense will eventually be improved under Venables. They will lose by less than they did this year.
I don't really care how he wins. I like his offensive scheme.
I just know he's had a bunch of NFL talent, especially at the QB position and with that talent he's never been able to get over the hump in the playoff and he's been embarrassed many times in conference games. Basically, he's really good. He might even be elite. I just think he's a bit overrated. His career kind of mirrors Chip Kelly's prior to the NFL. Chip Kelly at one time was the hottest commodity in CFB. He's still really respected but the shine has begun to fade. Riley isn't that boat just yet.
We have to be the only fan base that will routinely crap all over good news. Either that or we are just infested with trolls.
BULLSEYE!
It’s just an FYI post, nothing more.
But the losers, the sad sacks and the suicidal on this board can’t wait to piss all over it….
Like I said, an odd flex for someone who has posted well over 7,000 times here.
I mean it's not like I have more posts than anyone on this site, or even in this thread. Or am even close to it. I guess you just really like me.
