First off I think portnoy is an obnoxious person. Not my cup of tea. But this is hilarious. A crazy leftist reporter blamed his being a white male as the reason his bar was vandalized.
Portnoy victim of hate and this didn’t end well
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This is all a pretty fascinating view into human behavior and the effects of pop culture.
I'm not a big fan of his, but do like his pizza reviews. I don't trust him when he doesn't like a place, but do trust him when he does like a place. I also admire the business that he built, sold and then rebuilt. I also admire that he provides good jobs to people who aren't really capable of functioning outside of the Barstool realm. He is like a young Howard Stern in that respect. He is also like a young Howard Stern in that a certain segment of the population gravitates to him but misunderstands him. These folks take the freedom and the "I am going to speak my mind" culture to the "nth" degree and get far away from the what is really in the hearts of their idols (Portnoy, Stern, even Pat McAfee to a degree). They think because their heroes speak their minds without consequence, they can do it as well. And these folks want to be provocative like their heroes. Sometimes it is all in good fun, but every once in a while it goes astray. An older, wiser (yet sort of boring) Howard Stern has learned how his behavior can bring out the worst in others. I'm not sure that Portnoy has learned this yet. But he's a smart guy - once he calms down and thinks through this, he will start to understand. And he will have to decide if he wants to change anything about how he and his employees present themselves or not. And there is no right or wrong answer to that - it is based on personal ideals and thoughts. I'd be hard pressed to change if I were him because he wasn't the one that did it. The bar kid that did it holds that blame solely on himself. But one would be fooling themselves if they didn't understand how the Portnoy attitude and public persona can embolden someone to behave like that kid did. Also, I'm not even going to go as far as suggesting that the kid that did this is a rotten human being. Maybe he harbors no real hatred for Jews and just thought it was funny and outrageous. Someone can do something awful, but not be awful. I've made racist jokes in the past and I'm fairly certain that almost all of us on this board have.
I do understand why Portnoy was so upset. Sure, part of it is schtick. But he genuinely should be upset. He and his business (that he is and should be proud of) was under attack. That doesn't feel very good. Especially when he thought (as I do) that he was handling it in a respectful and professional manner. Being attacked in that situation can set a person off, certainly those with A type personalities like Portnoy.
The main thing that concerns me about what this reporter did is that she now turns the attention away from what the kid did to herself. Now right wing nuts and creeps are latching onto this instead of the act that caused this. And, like the kid, she may not really be the person she is coming off as. She may just be following bosses orders, she may idolize tough journalists and thought she was emulating them or she just might be a crazy leftist like you believe she is. But make no mistake, the real villain of this story isn't her and isn't Portnoy. It is the person who did the action. It would probably be best for all if Portnoy settles down about her and keeps his focus on doing the right thing, which he has done here for the most part. What this reporter did is way less insulting to society than what the kid in the bar did. So my suggestion to you is that lay off the fake outrage over false equivalencies and focus your ire on the fact that there are people in this world who harbor hatred over the color of someone's skin or the God they worship.
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i actually kind of like him when he keeps it light. i do like his pizza reviews, he's a pretty entertaining guy.
he is going all in on this 'hate jews' sign at the philly bar though. i get it, it's important to him, not my battle but it's his. so good for him.
media does try and get him every time too, this isnt the first this has happened. the left hates him because once in a blue moon he'll say something about liberals and everyone will get upset..
So they come in to interview him and try to turn it around, happened in the past too, and he lays into him pretty good.
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Oh no, a hatemonger that embraces his online army of vile sycophants had to experience being the victim of the same edgy humor he's built his career on, then he doesn't get to play victim and have everyone fawn all over his "noble" defense of the one minority group he identifies with?
You know why he got the bait-and-switch from the reporter? Because he's notorious for doxxing (tweeting out personal and contact information) journalists that reach out to interview him or that he gets annoyed with and his targets receive hundreds to thousands of phone calls and messages that often include death threats.
Not asking a dude that seems to take joy in spreading hate and ridicule against women, LGTBQ+, people of color, etc. if he feels that the type of online hate and derision he's built his career on might make him question the way he interacts with his audience is practically journalistic malpractice. It'd be like interviewing a guy with a 15-year history of punching people in the face and not asking him if he might change now that he also got punched in the face.
But instead of even a second of self-reflection, it's right back to the spreading more anger and more hate.
While hate and antisemitism is heinous cumulatively, I’ll contend that an elitist journalist who wants to push the white man bad narrative has a much larger platform and is thus more dangerous than an isolated ignorant punk kid.
OK. Now I may be changing my mind. The kid that did this is a rotten POS. I take back what I said about him in my earlier post.
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Yeah, elitist journalists work at the bottom rung of local news all the time.
I'll side with a low level local journalist over antisemites any day. Call me crazy, but that's just me. But you are free to think that asking questions is way worse than harboring hatred.
Portnoy should hang out less on pump fun if he doesn't want pump fun at his barOK. Now I maybe changing my mind. The kid that did this is a rotten POS. I take back what I said about him in my earlier post.
It is a double edged sword. Like I said, he should try to understand (assuming he doesn't understand) that the culture of his organization can embolden a certain segment of our population to behave in socially unacceptable ways. But, make no mistake, he isn't turning people into racists and homophobes. That is in them already. He just makes them think it is ok to let it out. I joked the other day, but for the most part I believe it - I'd rather have the cockroaches come out in daylight so that I know who they are instead of hiding and only coming out at night.
Outrage over Portnoy is counter productive in my opinion. You end up driving a bigger wedge between the awful people and the rest of us. You end up making them think they are justified and that they are the victims. Portnoy isn't the problem. He is just on the periphery of the problem. I cite the folks tweeting out their outrage over the journalist as my proof.
OK. I apologize. But I didn't feel like I was projecting when you said this: "I’ll contend that an elitist journalist who wants to push the white man bad narrative has a much larger platform and is thus more dangerous than an isolated ignorant punk kid."
I interpreted that as you thinking that a journalist asking questions you object to is worse than a racist. I think it is totally understandable why I interpreted it that way, but I'll take your word that it isn't what you meant.
I don't really follow Barstool but I do like his pizza reviews. Although sometimes I think Portnoy bends to pressure and caves in on some of his reviews. He was all set to give Mineo's a bad rating, then the owner came out and pleaded his case. Plus it was when he was plugging the new alliance they had with Penn gaming in PA, and Mineo's is a yinzer legend, made him give a higher score than he was planning to.
Nah, I get what you're saying and agree with a lot of it except him not being the problem. Sure, he's not the whole problem, but he's an oversized part of it. I think you'd have a different opinion about it if you were on the receiving end of his mob, receiving hundreds or thousands of calls and messages telling you that you should die or that your wife should be *****.
He doesn't mistakenly send out their contact info, he knows exactly what is going to happen when he does. He might not pull the trigger, but he gets in front of 3 million armed people and shouts 'fire' while pointing at someone knowing a percentage of those people will pull the trigger.
i truly dont get the hate for portnoy. but i'll admit, i dont religiously follow barstool. i seen some pizza reviews, i see videos of these guys arguing with each other betting on games or doing golf scrambles, all pretty funny, juvenile guy stuff.
but soo many people seem really upset by him. can someone enlighten me why? Without going all, he's a conservative so he's hitler?
is there more to it? I see my man 80 doesnt even like him and i know he's conservative. Why the hate? Again, im not offended, just curious how a guy who does light hearted stuff getting a ton of venom..
but soo many people seem really upset by him. can someone enlighten me why? Without going all, he's a conservative so he's hitler?
is there more to it? I see my man 80 doesnt even like him and i know he's conservative. Why the hate? Again, im not offended, just curious how a guy who does light hearted stuff getting a ton of venom..
I don't disagree. Like I said, he is like a young Howard Stern in that respect. Maybe I am too strong willed or emotionally intelligent, but I seem to believe that no one is going to convince me to do something that I wouldn't otherwise want to do or wasn't in my nature. So I have to come back to personal accountability.
I do understand your point. Portnoy does instigate and there certainly should be consequences for that in some way. But I don't want to put the focus on him here - the antisemite is the root of the problem. Blame him for his actions but don't blame him for the actions of others.
I'm not sure politics play much of a role in whether people like or dislike him. Kind of like when one of my MAGA friends accuse me of not being a fan of Scott Baio and I tell them "I don't like Scott Baio because he sucks at acting. If you think I base it on his politics, explain to me why I love Stallone".
I think Portnoy is hated by some in the way that Howard Stern was hated in the late 80's and 90's. He says things they don't like. Now, as someone who isn't a fan (nor am I "not a fan" if that makes any sense) of Barstool, I don't believe they hit nerves and open up wounds like Stern was so good at doing. To me Barstool is the Stern show of those days without the searing social commentary. Basically a simpleton version of Stern. But keep in mind, their product isn't for those of us in our mid 50's and beyond. It is primarily for 15 to 40 year old dudes. So it makes total sense to me why I'm not into it. But that doesn't make it bad. Like I try to explain to my Mom during her annual Super Bowl halftime show rant - "they're not trying to please 85 year old women here Mom".
Can’t say I’ve ever read barstool and portnoy seems like a dirt bag .
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Is the TLDR
It was exposed his employees did something stupid , and he’s blaming the media , instead of taking accountability?!?
Since I’m not going to watch the clip-
Is the TLDR
It was exposed his employees did something stupid , and he’s blaming the media , instead of taking accountability?!?
yeah, maybe i just dont follow barstool as much. this dude to me just makes funny vids of him eating pizza slices and getting yelled at by owners and for some dumb reason, it cracks me up..I'm not sure politics play much of a role in whether people like or dislike him. Kind of like when one of my MAGA friends accuse me of not being a fan of Scott Baio and I tell them "I don't like Scott Baio because he sucks at acting. If you think I base it on his politics, explain to me why I love Stallone".
I think Portnoy is hated by some in the way that Howard Stern was hated in the late 80's and 90's. He says things they don't like. Now, as someone who isn't a fan (nor am I "not a fan" if that makes any sense) of Barstool, I don't believe they hit nerves and open up wounds like Stern was so good at doing. To me Barstool is the Stern show of those days without the searing social commentary. Basically a simpleton version of Stern. But keep in mind, their product isn't for those of us in our mid 50's and beyond. It is primarily for 15 to 40 year old dudes. So it makes total sense to me why I'm not into it. But that doesn't make it bad. Like I try to explain to my Mom during her annual Super Bowl halftime show rant - "they're not trying to please 85 year old women here Mom".
and those guys flipping out on golf courses after playing a scramble and one dude doesnt give the other a putt and all hell breaks loose. again, juvenile but just weird to me that this mindless stuff gets people so upset..
i may be missing something but i think he was at a bar in philly, possibly owned by barstool (dont hold me to that) and someone there got the waitress to hold up a sign saying "F*ck the Jews" and hold it up for everyone in the bar to see. Not sure if it was one of those bars that have bottle service (that in itself is a sign of d-bag but we'll leave that for another thread).
Anyways, Portnoy sees it and gets super pissed. streams a live video of him looking for blood. so he apparently found out who it was by getting the CC receipt and called him out on it, you could say he doxxed him...
he did have the two waitresses fired too. . the guy apparently apologizes and for some reason, Portnoy offers to fly him out to auschwitz to "learn his lesson." Again, all of this is weird..
well a local news station begs him to do interview and in middle of interview, basically accuses him and barstool of causing this anti jewish, anti semitic behavior. kind of a D move IMO but oh well.
Not sure what happened in last day or two but now the dude who held up the sign is now looking for donations from go fund me.
I think that's the recap but anyone can correct me if im wrong..
Not exactly. A 21 year old in a Barstool bar in Philadelphia did something racist and someone from the media asked Portnoy questions that insinuates that it was his fault and he is upset over that.
the more i read about this, the more i am on portnoy's side.
The dude held up a sign "F*ck the Jews" in a bar owned by barstool, so it's a bar that dave portnoy's company basically owns. so he absolutely has a right to speak against it..
secondly, the guy apparently posted a pic of him and the sign on his instagram and "doxxed" himself, prior to Portnoy realeasing his name.
so if true, this guy kind of gets what he deserves. also, and much more important, what's wrong with young kids these days. You go to a bar and you make a sign about jews? At a bar? why?
What ever happened to going to a bar to get drunk and try to stink-finger some fat chick in the back alley after last call? relax on making signs and get your priorities straight.
The dude held up a sign "F*ck the Jews" in a bar owned by barstool, so it's a bar that dave portnoy's company basically owns. so he absolutely has a right to speak against it..
secondly, the guy apparently posted a pic of him and the sign on his instagram and "doxxed" himself, prior to Portnoy realeasing his name.
so if true, this guy kind of gets what he deserves. also, and much more important, what's wrong with young kids these days. You go to a bar and you make a sign about jews? At a bar? why?
What ever happened to going to a bar to get drunk and try to stink-finger some fat chick in the back alley after last call? relax on making signs and get your priorities straight.
Portnoy isn’t conservative though. I think he just voted for Trump because of, well, common sense.
Yeah but Stallone sucks at acting too.I'm not sure politics play much of a role in whether people like or dislike him. Kind of like when one of my MAGA friends accuse me of not being a fan of Scott Baio and I tell them "I don't like Scott Baio because he sucks at acting. If you think I base it on his politics, explain to me why I love Stallone".
I think Portnoy is hated by some in the way that Howard Stern was hated in the late 80's and 90's. He says things they don't like. Now, as someone who isn't a fan (nor am I "not a fan" if that makes any sense) of Barstool, I don't believe they hit nerves and open up wounds like Stern was so good at doing. To me Barstool is the Stern show of those days without the searing social commentary. Basically a simpleton version of Stern. But keep in mind, their product isn't for those of us in our mid 50's and beyond. It is primarily for 15 to 40 year old dudes. So it makes total sense to me why I'm not into it. But that doesn't make it bad. Like I try to explain to my Mom during her annual Super Bowl halftime show rant - "they're not trying to please 85 year old women here Mom".
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has anyone ever really EVER admitted that they are a Scott Baio fan? Listen, i liked Charles in Charge and dont even get me started with Heather Thomas' blouse getting popped open in the 80s classic "zapped" but with that said, no one is a Scott Baio fan..Yeah but Stallone sucks at acting too.
Like Billy Idolnsaid about Robert Plant vs Mick Jagger. “Robert Plant can sing and Mick Jagger can’t, but do I listen to Robert Plant? No! I listen to Mick Jagger because he can’t sing and sounds great.”Yeah but Stallone sucks at acting too.
If you want to cringe, pull up the intro to Joanie Loves Chachi. I know Pittpoker used to talk about how great the Belky dude was on TV and how great that show was called “Small Wonder” with the robot girl. But that Joanie loves Chachi duet/intro is the worst.
And I think Baio blamed his career failings on that show…not his acting.
if it's worse than Small Wonder then i cant do it, it will literally kill me..
Every character on small wonder was terrible. i watched that show when i was 12 and i wanted to punch the tv. the robot girl, the red head neighbor girl i wanted to kill, the son was queer af. even the parents had faces that you wanted to punch.
scott baio raping Nicole Eggert, who was a minor at the time, ruined his career more than anything.
Omg. I’m in a public place and laughing to myself uncontrollably and people are staring at me.
A MAP is a Minor Attracted Person. You kow, kind of like Trump at his Miss Teen USA pageants and his trips on the Lolita express with a "terrific guy that is fun to be with", aka Jeffrey Epstein.
You act like you’re reasonable and then you say stuff like this. No proof of any wrongdoing in either case.
I've seen similar things at clubs/bars in my younger days, so this is what I'm assuming happened. The bar is called Barstool and I'm guessing it has bottle service where if you order it, two waitresses will walk out with one holding your drinks and the other holding up a sign with the words of your choosing written on it over her head like a ring girl. So the dude thought it'd be funny or edgy...basically on-brand for Barstool.
I couldn't hear the journalist's side on the video, but I assume that your explanation is a much simplified version of what was said. From his side of the conversation it sounded like the journalist asked him a question similar to the following...
Reporter: "Do you feel that your outspoken position on not catering to political correctness or cancel culture has helped in creating an environment where this type of behavior is viewed as acceptable by young, white men who make up the majority of your audience?"
Which again, Portnoy's brand is "F*ck political correctness, cancel culture, woke, etc.", he's proudly made public statements degrading to women and other minorities and he's entirely unapologetic about it. But because this time it's about his heritage and beliefs, he takes offense to it. Do you think he'd have fired the waitresses if the sign said something derogatory about any of the groups he personally derides? He wants to be fawned over for his defense of his own people with everyone just completely forgetting what made him famous in the first place. Yes, what was done was horrible but Portnoy acting like he's an advocate for considerate expression is hilarious.
This is a guy that excused Harvey Weinstein's behavior as just a fair trade between Harvey and the women.
He hosted "Blackout Parties" then "joked" that men ra**** passed out women at the events as a "grey area" that might not be sexual assault.
He said a female sports reporter's primary job is to make men hard. His sites articles called them Cu***. Posted headlines talking about female reporters "Drinks Cam Newton's Ji**"
This is a guy that gives out the journalists' personal phone numbers to his 7 million followers while making comments about "making sure they burn".
Just playing your game. Don't you recall posting: 'If he’d have done that today, libs would love him."?
Hypocrite.
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