Potential ripple effect on ACC network?
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hope not, I will miss the weekly Ohio state football program that runs for 3+ hours every Saturday night starting at 8pm..
Might ABC/ESPN be in need of more content/inventory?
More from Greenstein on this topic in the Chicago Trib.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-espn-big-ten-20160518-story.html
NHL chased the money and ended up on OLN or wherever their games have been for the past few years. Knee-capped their own product. If you leave ESPN, it better be for another channel the average fan is flipping to.
In light of Swofford's recent comments, it seems as if the ACC feels the same way you do about keeping an ACC/ESPN (ABC) partnership, too.
I could be 100% wrong, but I would think that ESPN would know the tempature of the negotiations with the BIG long in advance while they were working with the ACC, and this shouldn't have any impact. But who knows.
Agree that it was very likely known in advance. And that may well be the reason for the optimistic comments w/r/t the continuation/growth of the ACC and ESPN/ABC partnership on the part of Swofford at the recent ACC meetings.
IMO, if the B1G and ESPN/ABC part ways, this can do nothing but help the ACC's position and relationship with ESPN/ABC from a supply and demand perspective.
I dont see how a traditional ACC channel will be possible if ESPN loses 100% of the Big Ten. ESPN will be left with half the Big 12, half the Pac 12, ACC, SEC, American, and a small MW package. With 4 channels (5 if you count ESPNews), there wont be enough content for an ACC channel. ESPN will have to give its noon and 3:30 B10 timeslots on ABC, ESPN, and ESPN2 to the ACC.
I wonder whether one of the ESPN channels like ESPNU or ESPNews could be rebranded into an ACC network.
If they stared a brand new network, they would have ABC, ESPN, ESPN 2, ESPN 3, ESPNU, ESPNews, the Longhorn Network, the SEC Network and the ACC Network. That's a lot of channels to spread content around to, especially without having the B1G games.
If they stared a brand new network, they would have ABC, ESPN, ESPN 2, ESPN 3, ESPNU, ESPNews, the Longhorn Network, the SEC Network and the ACC Network. That's a lot of channels to spread content around to, especially without having the B1G games.
They'll give alot of those slots to more SEC.
The ACC just needs to be competitive with the B10 and SEC and here is what the Big Ten reported in its Tax Filings.
The Big Ten nearly caught up to the SEC in 2014-15, paying out its longstanding members $32.4 million each two seasons ago
LINK:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ent-in-2014-15-team-payments-on-par-with-sec/
Excerpts:
In the first year with Maryland and Rutgers as members -- coinciding with the debut of the College Football Playoff -- the Big Ten took in $110 million more than in 2013-14, according to tax records provided Wednesday to CBS Sports. The league paid its 11 longstanding members about $32.4 million each.That's on par with the SEC's payout of $32.7 million and considerably more than the Pac-12 ($25.1 million) and Big 12 ($23.3 million). The SEC generated $527.4 million in revenue last year. The ACC is the only major conference yet to release its tax records.................
Penn State was back to being fully funded by the Big Ten after getting docked almost $3 million a year earlier due to NCAA sanctions. The Big Ten's three newest members are on different paths toward receiving full shares: Maryland ($24.1 million), Nebraska ($19.8 million) and Rutgers ($10.5 million).
Maryland also received an $11.6 million loan from the Big Ten. Maryland settled a lawsuit with the ACC and agreed to pay $31 million in exit fees to leave for the Big Ten.
Rutgers did not experience a major financial jump by moving to the Big Ten -- at least not yet. It went from $8.3 million in the American Athletic Conference to $10.5 million in the Big Ten. More significant money is eventually coming, but for 2014-15, Rutgers got paid more like a Group of Five school than a Power Five school.
They cant. With the SECN, and SEC games on CBS, ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPNU, every SEC game is already televised on one of those channels.
They don't use up all their content now. They televise other things on Saturday besides college football.
Aside from that, an ACC channel is already contingent on repurchasing the syndication package, which means more inventory.
I dunno. Now ESPN is a pretty terrible product and being on Sportscenter means getting 3 plays from your game shown vs 1, in between tweets about Bruce Jenner and LeBron.
I think the ACC needs to stay loyal to Raycom. I enjoy the Piggly Wiggly, Bojangles and Bart's Tire and Guns with locations in Asheville, Rock Hill and Tarboro ads and trying to find out what channel THIS TV is on my cable system. I see no reason to change.
I am not sure about how much the NBA growth is. Lebron, Jordan and unique in their talent and popularity. NFL to me is peaking in growth domestically. I see sports as a whole just being an event driven game as technology, changes in demographics and over exposure make most games as who cares. The bandwagon process is still there, but it seems the emotional investment in teams is not as pronounced.
The only thing that ESPN shows on Saturdays besides college football is a NASCAR race, and that is only a few Saturdays a year.
As for the SEC, I'm not sure what you dont understand. Literally every single SEC game is on either CBS, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, or SECN. Every single one. So, if ESPN loses the Big Ten, they cant just backfill SEC programming in those slots because there isnt any.
Currently, ESPN's Big Ten schedule looks like:
noon ESPN
noon ESPN2
3:30 ABC/ESPN2 mirror
Occasionally
noon ESPNU
noon ABC
7:30 ESPN
8:00 ABC
There are always at least 3 B10 games on the ESPN networks. Most of the time, there are 4. Sometimes as many as 5.
And those slots have to go to the ACC by default
I'll give you an example. Pitt/VT was a nooner on ESPNU last year. Without the Big Ten, its on ESPN or ESPN2 and ESPNU gets a G5 game, probably from the American. In essence, the ACC is promoted from ESPNU to ESPN and ESPN2......but that means not enough ACC content for a traditional ACC channel.
Every single Pac 12 and Big 12 conference game is on either ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ABC, FS1, FOX, or P12N. So again, there is no extra programming from those conferences they can show. And while FS1 will get more crowded with BTN games, Fox could just move B12 and P12 games to FS2 to create more demand for that channel.
Or the other alternative is that ESPN could buy a package of B10, B12, P12 games off of FOX. That is possible. Of that doesn't happen, you'll see a ton of ACC on ESPN and ESPN2. ESPNU will become the G5 Network for the most part.
ESPN is supposed to get more games from the Pac 12 and Big XII each additional year the contract goes. FOX got the front loaded portion, ESPN gets more back loaded.
Seriously, relax. The ACC and ESPN are partners that have been working on whatever they are working on for years. They are smart people and probably knew a portion of the BIG at the very least was going elsewhere.
No, ESPN also shows basketball games on Saturday, for starters.
You are also wrong about the content issue. I explained this before. For the ACC to have any shot at a network, not even getting to this issue you've raised, the syndication package will have to be repurchased. That's 30-odd extra ACC games that will come back to ESPN. That's how they get enough content to have a conference network. This is exactly what the SEC did to form their network.
ESPN has the US Open tennis tournament both of the first two Saturdays of September. In fact if they keep the schedule the same this year as they have in the past the women's final will be the day of the Pitt - Penn State game.
They dont show college basketball on Saturdays until the "Championship Saturday" in December when there arent many football games. ESPN even schedules the November basketball tournaments they own as Thu/Fri/Sun events with an off day Saturday for the sole reason of giving it content on a Sunday so it can show wall to wall college football on Saturday.
You are right about repurchasing the syndicated games. A network is not possible without that. But I've said that many times over the years. That's basic common knowledge.
As for what Joe said about the US Open, maybe they show that on 2 Saturdays, I dont pay attention to tennis but I'll take his word for it. Also, they televise that horse race in November. But, again, we are talking about just a couple events here. Without the B10, the ACC moves from ESPNU to ESPN and ESPN2.
No, that's still wrong. ESPN televises basketball games on Saturdays, during football season. Last year, ESPN even televised a golf tournament on Saturday, during football season. They simply don't go wall-to-wall football like you are thinking.
204 folks. Channel 204. That is where THIS TV is located on Comcast. Pitt/PSU. Serena and Viktoria Anesekiweich on ESPN for the US Open fnal. Northwestern and Duke on ESPN2
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