Pull the Plug Already
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I’m just glad we lost to them and no one attempted a fake slide because though they are small in numbers they bitch like crazy over stuff like that…
You refer to either Capel's hiring or extension as a "horrific mistake" and then proceed to tell us why Pitt should hang on to him another year. That makes no sense.
If Louisville actually hires Kenny Payne when they set their sites on Nate Oats and Bruce Pearl that will be an absolute disaster
His coaching during the Goheen debacle cost Pitt a national championship. Not just a final 4 team that year. Matched up better against Manning’s Kansas team. Should have won it all. That Pitt team had all the answers but let an inferior team hang around long enough. Sickens me more than the Reynolds thing.
Realistically, they had to know that landing either of those guys is a longshot. And Pearl was a never going to be in play for the Cards.
While I get your point, I never thought that team had enough "intangibles" to get to the Final Four, and the Vandy game proved that. Sometimes they just played "not-so-good" basketball, despite all their talent. I still think what hurt that team more than anything else was Rod Brookin not making the grades.
HL needs to do what it takes to bring Oats to Pittsburgh if he truly wants out.
He just signed a new contract this past year. I think he's on the hook for about $13 million if he takes another job.
Not fun being second fiddle to football to the extent that Alabama basketball is.
Very few places where you can coach where you aren't going to be second fiddle to something. Louisville will always be in the shadow of UK and a distant #2 in the Bluegrass state.
We need to sell ourselves to the devil for a few years and go with Pitino if we can get him. Bring the team back into the spot light and make the tourny. he wont build a long term program and we will get sanctions in the end but what other choice do we have?
Paul Evans and "good basketball coach" should never be in the same paragraph let alone sentence.
Look who he had on his “ Golden ” Panthers teams . Smith ,Lane , Gore , Aiken , Brookin ,Shorter , Mathews , Miller , Martin both of us could’ve led those teams to a final four !
His players hated him and he could no longer recruit , once he lost the Pitt job he never got another job .
It was the only time in bb that Pitt was able to hire The hot mid major guy . Having the Admiral really paid off for him . Willard was also in demand .
I don’t see any way back to having teams with that amount of talent at Pitt without an active booster group working the NIL angle .
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You missed the greatest collection of talent ever wearing a Pitt uniform . Was apologizing for using “suck “ !
Buzz was at the end of the line when he retired . He was 64/5 after a long coaching career .
I believe TG let the pressure get to him , but not 100% sure about that .
Chipman resigned because he had a problem with how Pitt acquired talent .
Evans was the hot mid major guy coming from the Navy and was a major coup , at least that’s what they thought at the time .
Actually Willard was a good hire too , the hot mid major guy after being very successful at Western Kentucky . Just didn’t work out for him here .
Maybe it was the coaching !
Brian Shorter not being eligible was more impactful IMO than Brookin not being eligible that yr .
Sorry guys, firing won’t happen this season unless Capel doesn’t get to 10 or more wins for the season ( less than 2 more wins). IMHO, that is just the way it will be.
Mack wanted out at Louisville and they wanted him gone so they reached an agreement. If Capel truly wants out, then yes, he may agree to a lower buyout but why would he? Mack can get another good job. Capel won't coach above the MM level. I don't see why he'd take less of a buyout to go coach North Carolina A&T.
Also, buyouts are usually a high percentage of remaining salary.
Capel has 5 years remaining after this year and is making roughly $3 million per year. His buyout will be somewhere between 100% of remaining salary (not likely) of $15 million and
$11.25 million (75%).
You guys dont understand the Heather factor. She REALLY needs this to work. The guy has 5 years left and since she gave him an extension, he had a bad Covid year (but was still in "Bracketology" before our usual tank job) and then this year when he lost an NBA player 2 years early, and "25 PPG" in Sibande and Horton.
IF Capel returns the good players, Heather can very very easily justify 1 more year, hoping and praying for a "Wake." If she fires him now, the clock begins to tick on how long she has left here.
She didn't hire Narduzzi, Vidovich, or Fisher. Her WBB coach will be fired in a few years. Her WSOC hire was big-time but it hasn't translated to an NCAAT and she lost a premiere softball coach to a conference rival and now the team sucks. Her baseball hire did well in 1 year but had a team of 23 and 24 year olds but wouldn't get vaccinated and missed the NCAAT because of it.
Heather only gets 1 more basketball mistake. Can she risk it on a MM coach?
I really believe she gives Capel one more year IF the best players return
As if 9 wins justify a change but 12 or 13 wouldn't.
We will find out soon, but it's hard to see Pitt bringing him back.
You underestimate Heather.
Oats would have Louisville in Top 5's almost every year and we could have had him for $4 million per.
I look at it like this. Heather made an investment like you may invest $100K into the stock market, crypto, etc. Now your investment is at $50K. If you sell now, your loss (ie mistake) is "realized." If you hold, maybe, maybe you recoup it. Heather will have to "realize" her loss and then pull a lottery ticket from the MM market when those mostly fail. There's just no good options out there. All lottery tickets and please don't say Medved. He can name his job.
No, we couldn’t have. And even say they did, he’d be gone to Louisville this year.
TO Hugley is not worth Keeping capel
TO Hugley + another year of buyout savings + Heather's hope Capel can pull a Wake. Heather needs it to work. 5 years is a LOT to buyout 26 months after an extension.
Lol this is so stupid. Her making a power move this offseason and firing Capel and hiring a good coach isn’t a negative mark on her, it’s an absolute power move.
Her keeping him another year because of her extension is what would be a negative mark.
You create the weirdest narratives that make no sense
Hugley is average. The extra year of buyout savings is offset by the fact nobody will be at games PLUS some of our biggest donors might be out if he’s back. Capel isn’t pulling a “Wake”. Wake pulled a Wake because they have a good coach with new coach momentum. And they’ll figure out the buyout. They always do.
I think Oats leaving Bama for Louisville would be an insane career move.
I've not seen anything to suggest that he's looking to leave.
In a world where money means nothing your 100% correct , unless she finds the money outside the athletic department( booster ) the money is a BIG Issue .
If she fires JC and makes another poor hire her job security will come into question unless Fb continues at the level it played last season .
There really aren’t many fans left to lose at this point , hiring a no name who builds a .500 conference team in 3 yrs , which would be a huge success, won’t bring in many fans so what’s to lose in paying the guy your already committed to another yr ?
I doubt HL’s job is any jeapordy no matter what happens with the next bball coach unless some scandal falls over the athletic department. PItt FB is on top of the ACC , the athletic department as a whole seems to be healthier than it’s ever been.
Certainly money is an ‘issue’ but what evidence is there that PItt and HL are unable or unwilling to spend to get the coach they want?
They got rid of Stallings when there was this ridiculous uproar that it was as unfair and too costly and pay Capel like a top 6 in the ACC salary . Nothing about past action under HL says PItt is cheap.
HL strikes me as no nonsense and won’t hesitate to make a move.
Louisville had dirt on Mack from the Gaudio fallout, (minor level stuff similar to Stallings at Pitt) and the internal procedure thing, which he was supposedly suspended for earlier this year, so its not like he was playing nice and letting Louisville off the hook for millions because he wanted out. They were getting rid of him and they had plenty of dirt to leverage the buyout amount down.
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