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Realistic choices to replace Chaney

gary2

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1 - Brad Salem Mich St
2- Don Treadwell Kent St
3 - T.Beck Ohio St
4 - John DeFilippo Cleve Browns
5 - D.Warner Mich St
6 - J.Rudolph Wisc
7 - Shawn Watson ex-Texas
8 - D.Enos Ark
9 - J.Bolman Mich ST
10 Dan Roushar N.O. Saints

Last years there were rumors connecting the first six to Narduzzi's initial staff
 
1 - Brad Salem Mich St
2- Don Treadwell Kent St
3 - T.Beck Ohio St
4 - John DeFilippo Cleve Browns
5 - D.Warner Mich St
6 - J.Rudolph Wisc
7 - Shawn Watson ex-Texas
8 - D.Enos Ark
9 - J.Bolman Mich ST
10 Dan Roushar N.O. Saints

Last years there were rumors connecting the first six to Narduzzi's initial staff
Wouldnt we want to stay away from nfl coaches since they dont recruit and probably have limited recruiting contacts and skills?
 
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I would love to get Fred Wilson, running back coach from LSU,but I imagine he makes a boat load of money. I would see Sanders running to Pitt if we hired Wilson.

Eddie Gran of Cincy I would like as well. Same general recruiting area, and very good offense that is balanced.
 
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I would love to get Fred Wilson, running back coach from LSU,but I imagine he makes a boat load of money. I would see Sanders running to Pitt if we hired Wilson.

Eddie Gran of Cincy I would like as well. Same general recruiting area, and very good offense that is balanced.

Eddie Gran is my guy as well. He is a perfect fit and he can recruit.
 
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Frank Wilson has never been an ocoordinator but maybe top recruiter in country.
Makes over 600k as rb coach/recruiting.
 
scratch #6 off the list

off all the msu guys, most likely the only guy we have a shot at is brad salem.

zero chance at frank wilson.
 
Don't expect any of the MSU guys I would be really surprised. Enos is a possibility and a few others not on the list. Eddie Gan and Tubberville are really tight so I don't know if he will ever leave Tommy.
 
Yes, he makes a lot, but you will be getting a lot as well.

Gran makes way less, I think south of 400K, probably better tactician than Wilson would be... but hey, if you are asking in my dream world of people we can get that will get us to that next level, I would say Wilson
 
Gran is near 350k, Enos 550k. Salem 286k would be a promotion. I guess msu could make everyone co-coord if they wanted.
 
i do wonder if pat is trying to hire tim beck. i know he's making 600k at OSU. but with urban and 2 guys calling plays, urban might be looking at making a change. i did hear one of the reasons he hired schiano was so urban could focus more on the offense.
 
Urban has unlimited budget he can pay as much as he wants. Urban is becoming more of a CEO and is less interested in the day to day game planning. His presence on the recruiting trail still means a lot but that's all Urban is doing.
 
i do wonder if pat is trying to hire tim beck. i know he's making 600k at OSU. but with urban and 2 guys calling plays, urban might be looking at making a change. i did hear one of the reasons he hired schiano was so urban could focus more on the offense.
we won;t be paying any coordinator 600k, that much you can count on.
 
Nice 80s reference.

The guys name is ripe for lots of names. the Gran Pooba I am already calling him.

By the way, if we arent going to pay near 600 K then I think we wont get most anyone on the list
 
Matt Limegrover.. former OC at Minnesota Gophers. Deep Pittsburgh ties, went to Pittsburgh CC..
 
OSU fans hated Bolman and they hate Beck currently.

What makes this tough is Narduzzi wants to run a pro-style but it seems like maybe only 30%-40% of teams run a PSO. Why would he hire a spread guy like Beck?

I personally think Rudolph would be a home run and if we are thinking long-term, if Narduzzi builds a winner here and then leaves like Howland, Rudolph could transition easy and be our Dixon.
 
"gary2, post: 638948, member: 434"]1 - Brad Salem Mich St 3
2- Don Treadwell Kent St
3 - T.Beck Ohio St 5
4 - John DeFilippo Cleve Browns 1
5 - D.Warner Mich St
6 - J.Rudolph Wisc
7 - Shawn Watson ex-Texas
8 - D.Enos Ark 2
9 - J.Bolman Mich ST
10 Dan Roushar N.O. Saints 4
Last years there were rumors connecting the first six to Narduzzi's initial staff.
Thanks Gary77, Good Post!
 
Matt Limegrover.. former OC at Minnesota Gophers. Deep Pittsburgh ties, went to Pittsburgh CC..

Interesting! I was thinking of the current OC at NIU, but I had forgot about Limegrower, who used to coach at NIU.

Here's some bio info:
Matt Limegrover is the Assistant Head Coach for the University of Minnesota football program. He has also served as the team's offensive coordinator and offensive line coach since 2011.

With Limegrover overseeing the offense, the Gophers' scoring average has increased by 10 points since 2011. Minnesota averaged 28.4 points per game in 2014 after averaging 25.7 points in 2013, 21.3 points in 2012 and 18.4 points in 2011. Limegrover's charges scored 44 touchdowns on offense in 2014 after scoring 35 in 2013 and 31 in 2012.

In 2014, Minnesota received its first All-Big Ten First Team honors on offense since 2009. Maxx Williams and one of Limegrover's offensive line charges, Zac Epping, received all-conference recognition. Epping was the first Gophers lineman named to the first team since 2005. Standout running back David Cobb received second-team honors.

Williams and Cobb both heard their name called during the 2015 NFL Draft becoming the first offensive Gophers under Limegrover to be selected. Williams was taken in the second round by Baltimore, while Cobb went in the fifth round to Tennessee. In addition, receiver Isaac Fruechte signed as a free agent with Minnesota.

In 2014, the Gophers had the No. 28 rushing offense in the country (sixth in the Big Ten) with 2,801 rushing yards. That total is their best since rushing for 3,277 yards in 2005. Minnesota's 32 rushing touchdowns and 599 attempts were also the team's highest totals in those categories since 2005, when the Gophers rushed 610 times and scored 34 touchdowns on the ground.

Minnesota finished 2013 with the No. 37 rushing offense in the nation (fifth in the Big Ten), having run the ball 586 times for 2,538 yards. That was the first time the Gophers produced more than 2,000 rushing yards in a season since 2006.

In addition to helping restore Minnesota's rushing attack, the offensive line, under the watchful eye of Limegrover, has been disciplined the last two years. In 2013, it committed only 13 penalties. In 2014, Minnesota’s opponents accepted just 11 penalties against offensive linemen.

Limegrover has been on head coach Jerry Kill's staff since 1999. He began his coaching career at the University of Chicago, where he coached the tight ends in 1991, the offensive line in 1992, became offensive coordinator in 1993 and interim head coach in 1994. Limegrover then moved on to a graduate assistant position at Northwestern for two seasons. He was then the offensive line coach and run game coordinator at Ferris State in 1997 and 1998.

Limegrover caught on with Kill as offensive line coach at Emporia State in 1999. He coached the offensive line and ran the offense when Kill took over the Southern Illinois program and maintained both of those responsibilities at NIU.

Limegrover was in charge of an offensive unit that ranked among the nation's best in 2010 at NIU. The Huskies finished the season No. 7 in the nation and No. 1 in the MAC in rushing offense (260.4 ypg). NIU also led the MAC in scoring offense (38.0 ppg, No. 12 in the nation) and total offense (450.0 ypg, No. 19 in the nation).

In addition to the team rankings, Limegrover's NIU offense produced the No. 1 rusher in the MAC for two consecutive seasons. Chad Spann averaged just less than 100 yards per game and ranked No. 19 in the nation in rushing as a senior in 2010. Spann was a two-time first-team All-MAC selection and was chosen as the league's most valuable player in 2010.

During his three seasons at Northern Illinois, Limegrover's offensive linemen earned All Mid-American Conference recognition seven times, including 2010 first-team selections Scott Wedige and Trevor Olson.

The Huskie line gave up only 15 sacks in 2009. NIU also led the MAC and ranked 19th nationally in rushing with 202.42 yards per game that year. Limegrover spent seven seasons with Kill at Southern Illinois. With the Salukis, he coordinated a prolific offense that ranked in the top 10 in scoring for six straight years (2002-07).

During his tenure, SIU averaged 207.8 yards per game on the ground, and totaled more than 3,000 rushing yards in four different seasons. Four of the top five rushing seasons in school history came under the guidance of Limegrover. His rushing offense gained more than 18,000 yards on the ground at SIU, and his passing attack produced better than a 2-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio.

Limegrover coached five FCS All-Americans at SIU, including two offensive linemen. Under Limegrover's direction, the Salukis' 2004 offense set school records for yards (502.7) and points-per-game (42.6) and touchdowns (67). In 2007, the Salukis produced 3,293 yards and scored 28 touchdowns through the air, also school records.

Both defensive coordinator Tracy Claeys and Limegrover deserve credit for Northern Illinois' turnover margin of +0.79 per game in 2010, which ranked No. 2 in the MAC and No. 17 in the nation. The Huskie offense turned the ball over just 14 times in 13 games this season to rank No. 5 in the nation.

Limegrover played football at the University of Chicago from 1987-90 and was Honoraable Mention All-UAA in 1990. The Pittsburgh, Pa., native graduated from Chicago in 1991 and also holds a master's degree from Northwestern, where he served as a graduate assistant coach and was a part of two Big Ten championship teams.
 
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1 - Brad Salem Mich St
2- Don Treadwell Kent St
3 - T.Beck Ohio St
4 - John DeFilippo Cleve Browns
5 - D.Warner Mich St
6 - J.Rudolph Wisc
7 - Shawn Watson ex-Texas
8 - D.Enos Ark
9 - J.Bolman Mich ST
10 Dan Roushar N.O. Saints

Last years there were rumors connecting the first six to Narduzzi's initial staff
I don't remember but I doubt anyone had Chaney on their OC list last year,or most of PNs other hires on a possibility list either. I'm expecting a hire again that no one thought of. He does his own thing and seems to be unpredictable
 
I don't remember but I doubt anyone had Chaney on their OC list last year,or most of PNs other hires on a possibility list either. I'm expecting a hire again that no one thought of. He does his own thing and seems to be unpredictable

If you cross reference the Pitt coaching staff resumes listed on this site and on the Pitt official website. you will clearly see that all of Pitt's assistant coaches either coached with or were coached by Narduzzi. Chaney and Conklin are the only exceptions and while at FIU, Conklin asked to study the Narduzzi defense.

Chaney was the only coach hired that had no previous Narduzzi connection. I expect Narduzzi will not repeat that mistake,
 
If you cross reference the Pitt coaching staff resumes listed on this site and on the Pitt official website. you will clearly see that all of Pitt's assistant coaches either coached with or were coached by Narduzzi. Chaney and Conklin are the only exceptions and while at FIU, Conklin asked to study the Narduzzi defense.

Chaney was the only coach hired that had no previous Narduzzi connection. I expect Narduzzi will not repeat that mistake,

gary2, your logic makes perfect sense !
 
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OSU fans hated Bolman and they hate Beck currently.

What makes this tough is Narduzzi wants to run a pro-style but it seems like maybe only 30%-40% of teams run a PSO. Why would he hire a spread guy like Beck?

I personally think Rudolph would be a home run and if we are thinking long-term, if Narduzzi builds a winner here and then leaves like Howland, Rudolph could transition easy and be our Dixon.
Michigan State fans have no complaints about Bollman.

Zero chance at getting Warner.

Duzzi will not be hiring anyone who doesn't run a pro style offense.

Zero chance that he hires Rudolph. Zilch. How anyone could think that's even possible is beyond me. The players reportedly lobbied for Rudolph to get the HC job when PC left. Narduzzi reportedly gave Rudolph first crack at staying on at Pitt-he said no thanks and followed his boy Chryst back to Wisky. Now Dooz is gonna beg this guy, who by the way is no superstar as an OC to begin with, to come back?

Treadwell? Duzzi could have hired him when he got the Pitt job. Instead he hired a guy he's never worked with. Enough said.

Enos left a head coaching job at Central Michigan, where he took a team that had won several MC championships under Brian Kelly and Butch Jones and ran it into the ground,, to make 550k as Arkansas OC. He's not going anywhere until some sucker gives him his next HC job.

Most likely candidate is either already on the staff, or is on Michigan State's staff-but isn't named Dave Warner, and probably isn't named Bollman. Brad Salem would make a lot of sense. Dooz may have a gentlemens agreement with Dantonio to stay away from his guys though, if he didn't, I think he would've brought a couple to Pitt.
 
we won;t be paying any coordinator 600k, that much you can count on.
Except we did for Jim Chaney.
f you cross reference the Pitt coaching staff resumes listed on this site and on the Pitt official website. you will clearly see that all of Pitt's assistant coaches either coached with or were coached by Narduzzi. Chaney and Conklin are the only exceptions and while at FIU, Conklin asked to study the Narduzzi defense.
Toms Sims, Kevin Sherman.
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I'm convinced Narduzzi will still want an under center conservative offense. If that's the case here are my realistic candidates:

1. Andy Ludwig (Vanderbilt OC)
Was Wisconsin's OC under Anderson from 2013-2014. Move to PITT would be an upgrade.

2. Dan Enos (Arkansas OC)
Similar offense. May want to leave Bielema.

3. James Coley (Miami OC)
Coached in Florida since 2005 and Richt may retain him. Not sure if he is realistic, but could be a good fit.

4. Matt Canada (NC State OC)
Knows the ACC. Replaced Chryst as Wisconsin back in the day.

5. GA Mangus (South Carolina Co-OC)
Studied under Spurrier, but didn't call plays. Has been primary OC at other stops though. Recruited Eastern PA/NJ very well for South Carolina.

6. Garrick McGee (OC Louisville)
Goes back with Petino, but may want to run his own show and call the plays. When he was head coach at UAB he hired John Peterson to coach the o-line, so the OC/OL relationship would be strong. Makes $850k so may be a little too rich for PITT.

That's not my personal list as I'd like to see them open up the offense more. Those are just the ones I think Narduzzi would want.
 
Alot points to Salem(MSU). Would be a promotion and would slide right in here with current staff.
 
Except we did for Jim Chaney.

Toms Sims, Kevin Sherman.
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I'm convinced Narduzzi will still want an under center conservative offense. If that's the case here are my realistic candidates:

1. Andy Ludwig (Vanderbilt OC)
Was Wisconsin's OC under Anderson from 2013-2014. Move to PITT would be an upgrade.

2. Dan Enos (Arkansas OC)
Similar offense. May want to leave Bielema.

3. James Coley (Miami OC)
Coached in Florida since 2005 and Richt may retain him. Not sure if he is realistic, but could be a good fit.

4. Matt Canada (NC State OC)
Knows the ACC. Replaced Chryst as Wisconsin back in the day.

5. GA Mangus (South Carolina Co-OC)
Studied under Spurrier, but didn't call plays. Has been primary OC at other stops though. Recruited Eastern PA/NJ very well for South Carolina.

6. Garrick McGee (OC Louisville)
Goes back with Petino, but may want to run his own show and call the plays. When he was head coach at UAB he hired John Peterson to coach the o-line, so the OC/OL relationship would be strong. Makes $850k so may be a little too rich for PITT.

That's not my personal list as I'd like to see them open up the offense more. Those are just the ones I think Narduzzi would want.
If that's the type of offense he wanted, that;s what we would have had last year. Look at Michigan State's offense--that's that Dooz wants, he has made no bones about that, and that;s what we tried to do last year. Pro style for sure but mostly run out of the shotgun, balanced with lots of zone running schemes, pre-snap motion and lateral runs and play action. They could bunch up and go under center when the situation called for it as well. I expect next year's O to look almost identical to this year's O no matter who gets the controls.
 
I thought shubb had a severe head injury?
He did.... But rumor was it was a "head injury" ( from improper electric can opener usage) in the same manner Peter Parker got a "bug bite"... In other words it drastically altered his cognitive process...in a positive direction...he could be the missing link!!!
 
Except we did for Jim Chaney.

Toms Sims, Kevin Sherman.
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I'm convinced Narduzzi will still want an under center conservative offense. If that's the case here are my realistic candidates:

1. Andy Ludwig (Vanderbilt OC)
Was Wisconsin's OC under Anderson from 2013-2014. Move to PITT would be an upgrade.

2. Dan Enos (Arkansas OC)
Similar offense. May want to leave Bielema.

3. James Coley (Miami OC)
Coached in Florida since 2005 and Richt may retain him. Not sure if he is realistic, but could be a good fit.

4. Matt Canada (NC State OC)
Knows the ACC. Replaced Chryst as Wisconsin back in the day.

5. GA Mangus (South Carolina Co-OC)
Studied under Spurrier, but didn't call plays. Has been primary OC at other stops though. Recruited Eastern PA/NJ very well for South Carolina.

6. Garrick McGee (OC Louisville)
Goes back with Petino, but may want to run his own show and call the plays. When he was head coach at UAB he hired John Peterson to coach the o-line, so the OC/OL relationship would be strong. Makes $850k so may be a little too rich for PITT.

That's not my personal list as I'd like to see them open up the offense more. Those are just the ones I think Narduzzi would want.

Narduzzi has coached with Canada in the past. Canada has a coaching history with NC State's current head coach. I do not know which connection is stronger. He might like his situation at NC ST. I almost included Canada on my list but wanted to limit it to ten.

Of candidates with no connection to Narduzzi, I think you are on the mark with Coley and Mangus. An unlikely choice, but someone who I think would do great is Brain Angelichio.
 
He did.... But rumor was it was a "head injury" ( from improper electric can opener usage) in the same manner Peter Parker got a "bug bite"... In other words it drastically altered his cognitive process...in a positive direction...he could be the missing link!!!

Well, I cant say I wouldnt like the option. Although, he has actually had coaching experience in the past. If you remember during his playing days other players would let him sleep with their wives and gfs just to learn proper techniques. And that time they ran out of footballs he actually walked over to a cow and ripped the hide off, then meticulously stitched up a few more footballs stuffed with rocks he demolished from the local quarry. They didnt look actually like footballs, but jesus were they close. Then he would call anyone that complained about catching rocks wimps and make them carry him over the field. Boy it sure was a cold winter for that cow though.
 
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