Really... that’s Narduzzi’s answer for the ND loss...

[#99HUGHgreen]

That is crap.

You have no idea if it was play calling or execution.

And the refs DID cost us the game. IT WAS 14-12 with a few minutes left! We had the game.

Just like the refs cost us the game last time in ND.

Could we have won the game 650-0 if play calling and execution were absolutely perfect? Sure... but I dont like in crazy town, so it is what it is. And what it was was 14-12 late in the 4th qrt with a bs PI and a non hold call out in the open.

Won 650-O?

The offense scored a lousy 7 POINTS the entire game. What a joke. How do you ever win when your offense scores 7 points. If not for run game with Ollison and Hall and Aston, Pitt would not have a single win.

Look, I do agree there were some questionabke calls in that game and I agree there were certainly some terrible calls by the officials in other ND games that benefited ND (one of which was so egregious that it should have lead to further investigation of that official and at the minimum a suspension and ban from any future Pitt or ND games).

I am not excusing poor offficiating when I say that at the end of the day, Pitt had several opportunities to win the game and the offense took those incredible opportunities the defense worked their tail off to give them and squandered them away by not being able to move the chains and score another TD. The PI call gave ND momentum and they took advantage of it. Pitt offense (and their kicker) killed almost every momentum swing the defense gave them.

Personally, I would be a little pissed at the offense and the OC if I were a player on Pitt’s defense.

The offense and offensive coaches need to man up and play smarter football... what passes plays are working which ones aren’t... and quit making excuses or acting like everything is okay becasue Kenny says he’ll take the blame for them sucking so bad. What about a QB taking blame again and again for a loss without getting better is going to give the defense confidence in you.

It was one heel of an impressive show by the defense and they deserve to be praised like the men they were in that game. The offense (aside from some impressive blocking by the OL and some nice runs by Ollison and Hall to carry them for part of the game) was a disaster.

Had Kenny thrown a TD at the end that put Pitt ahead only to have the play called back on a phantom holding call, then I would be a little more upset... becasue I would then know that at least the offense came through even though the officiating didn’t.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

When a new coach is hired for a college job if he doesn't purchase a home and move his family (atleast his wife) to town in short order something isn't right.

I call this the Todd Graham principle!

An exception might be a child finishing a grade in MS or HS but that might be the only reasonable exception.

"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!

Your assuming that everything is hunky dorie at home !

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

First: It’s not just the media they are telling, it’s also the fans. If fans are turned off by what coaches and players say AND those coaches and players happen not to be winning much, then those fans start not showing up for games. I think it does matter a great deal to an Athletic Director and a school when less and less fans show up to games.

On the other hand, if Pitt were to win 10 games or more every season... the coaches and players could grunt their way through a press conferences and interviews and the fans would still show up at games.

Fans aren't being turned off and not going to the games because of what gets said at one of these press conferences. That's just silly. And in fact you seem to get that in the second paragraph. If you win then people will show up anyway. Why? Because coaches answering questions like that in a presser don't matter to the huge majority of the fan base. It's just something for a very few people to bitch about.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

First: It’s not just the media they are telling, it’s also the fans. If fans are turned off by what coaches and players say AND those coaches and players happen not to be winning much, then those fans start not showing up for games. I think it does matter a great deal to an Athletic Director and a school when less and less fans show up to games.

On the other hand, if Pitt were to win 10 games or more every season... the coaches and players could grunt their way through a press conferences and interviews and the fans would still show up at games.

Second: Even a QB without an ounce of talent is able to make the statement, ”I will take the blame.” That’s not the part that makes a QB a great leader. It’s the part where he actually shows he can get better each game, while figuring out ways to help the team around him get better. We have yet to see that from Kenny. All we get is, “I will take the blame” followed by another game where we see the passing game go through the same struggles. Though, I get that the OC need to step up and help set his QB, WR’s and rest of the offense up for success.

Third: It’s not like I was suggesting that PN call the team a bunch of “losers” for not winning. Just to have the team rememeber that feeling of “going home losers of that game” which they had they Had in their grasp and let slip away... so the team will do whatever it takes next time to not have that feeling again

The defense played marvelously! They stepped up again and again. The offense did not give ot’s best effort for the entire game. It’s not like they drove all the way down the field only to have a last second beautiful pass by Kenny to Shcky in the corner of the end zone batted away at the last second by a diving ND cornerback.

The offense only score one measly TD in the game and choked during their final two times they had the ball. Part of that is on the coaches for sure and part of that is on the players - but they certainly did not step up and play to win... and thus allowed themselves to go home losers.

I get it, you don't like Narduzzi and look for things to criticize. As I mentioned, there are plenty of other things you can go after. This is silly.

You also want to be informed, but informing you is of no importance to this football team.

 

[#99HUGHgreen]

I get it, you don't like Narduzzi and look for things to criticize. As I mentioned, there are plenty of other things you can go after. This is silly.

That’s not it at all- I do like Narduzzi, but after 4 seasons and potentially a second straight losing season, my patience ( as well as the patience of most other fans) is starting to run out.

Still, like any Pitt coach, I will always give praise when the team shows improvement (like I have done with the improvemts on the defensive side of the ball) and I will point out issues that still need to be addressed and times when a coach seems not to be addressing those issues.

You also want to be informed, but informing you is of no importance to this football team.

Now more than ever, PN needs to show he had answers to improve the offense. How many weeks did he try to convince the media and fans that the offense not scoring in the second half (or the poor pass game) was not an issue?

I am not suggsting be be fired, I am simply pointing out areas where the team should be better than it is and since it is not, the guy should at least show he still has answers.

Otherwise, what is the point of continuing down a path of mediocrity without accountability

 

[#99HUGHgreen]

Fans aren't being turned off and not going to the games because of what gets said at one of these press conferences. That's just silly. And in fact you se em to get that in the second paragraph. If you win then people will show up anyway. Why? Because coaches answering questions like that in a presser don't matter to the huge majority of the fan base. It's just something for a very few people to bitch about.

Silly?

Silly is buying into some crazy notion that fans shouldn’t be expecting a coach who is being paid more than $2 million a year, who had a losing record last season and who currently has a losing record so far this season to have to take any questions seriously by the media that allows them to feel the coach

Silly is when the press gets to the point where they seem afraid to ask some of the kind of pressing questions that they know should be asked.

Silly is a coach saying there is no need for concern when it is brought to his attention that his offense has not been able to score in the second half or that the passing game seems to be struggling... until finally admit to it half way through the season.

Silly is also suggesting few fans care what the coach has to say.

There is certainly a lot of “silly” going on here, but expecting a coach who has been struggling just to put a winning season togeteher to give a smart answer To a few questions at a post press conference is certainly not something that is silly?

 

[McKee Place]

Silly?

Silly is buying into some crazy notion that fans shouldn’t be expecting a coach who is being paid more than $2 million a year, who had a losing record last season and who currently has a losing record so far this season to have to take any questions seriously by the media that allows them to feel the coach

Silly is when the press gets to the point where they seem afraid to ask some of the kind of pressing questions that they know should be asked.

Silly is a coach saying there is no need for concern when it is brought to his attention that his offense has not been able to score in the second half or that the passing game seems to be struggling... until finally admit to it half way through the season.

Silly is also suggesting few fans care what the coach has to say.

There is certainly a lot of “silly” going on here, but expecting a coach who has been struggling just to put a winning season togeteher to give a smart answer To a few questions at a post press conference is certainly not something that is silly?

I think the sentiment is, why do fans care what he says, when nobody who actually matters cares ... our brass is all about hyping the politically correct and economically friendly sports now.

As i said earlier, Gallagher and Lyke gave this guy a bump in pay and extra years earlier this year. They don't wanna hear squat about football now for 2 or 3 more years. It's an annoyance.

Narduzzi could stand up there and make flatulence noises with his underarms for the presser and our brass couldn't care less. And they are the ones who have to care.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Silly?

Silly is buying into some crazy notion that fans shouldn’t be expecting a coach who is being paid more than $2 million a year, who had a losing record last season and who currently has a losing record so far this season to have to take any questions seriously by the media that allows them to feel the coach

Silly is when the press gets to the point where they seem afraid to ask some of the kind of pressing questions that they know should be asked.

Silly is a coach saying there is no need for concern when it is brought to his attention that his offense has not been able to score in the second half or that the passing game seems to be struggling... until finally admit to it half way through the season.

Silly is also suggesting few fans care what the coach has to say.

There is certainly a lot of “silly” going on here, but expecting a coach who has been struggling just to put a winning season togeteher to give a smart answer To a few questions at a post press conference is certainly not something that is silly?

Like I said, you have to be one of the only people on the planet who takes those things seriously. The coaches certainly don't. They do them because they are an obligation of the job, nothing more. For you to get so worked up over something that almost no one in the whole world, including the people participating in them, cares about is, well, silly.

 

[passedout]

I think an Athletic Director should damn well care when a coach who is 3-4 this season and coming off a season with a losing record says “For whatever reason we didn’t pull it out in the end.”

How do you see that as meaningless?

You are paying a coach $2 million plus to know exactly why his team won or didn’t win. If he doesn’t know the answer, then how hell do you have confidence the coach will ever know how to fix it?

The easiest answer the coach could give (that makes everyone know he recognize his team’s biggest weaknesses during the game) is to say that the offense simply didn’t play well enough when it counted most and the defense, who played incredibly well all game had a few misses which normally would be acceptable when you have an offense that score more than 1 TD in the game. He can take partial responsibility along with the OC and be brutally straight with the media and fans that it is a key issue and a priority to fix.

It’s more than half way through the season and there still seems to be some denial by the coaches and the QB that there is a major issue with the offense-particularly the passing game. If Kenny Picket would quit sidestepping media questions with the canned “I’ll take the blame” response and actually address some specific ongoing issues with the struggling pass game and even talk about specific pass plays that he feels have been working better than others, it would at least give everyone a sense that he and the coaches are recognizing what’s working and what isn’t- and give us some hope that things might actually improve.

I hear denial .... coach doesnt know why team lost ... c'mon. Do you know how these things work? If he went out and said "my damn kicker missed 2 FGs and cost us the game" or "my OC, OL and QB aren't doing their jobs to keep us competitive on that side of the ball", how fast would the media and a section of the fanbase jump on him for throwing his kicker/OC/OL/QB under the bus and/or calling him "no fault Pat". I mean, come on. You ever hear the phrase win as a team, lose as a team? EVERY coach preaches this because the fact is the best teams are the ones where all 3 units and coaching staff play as one and compliment each other. The minute you start singling out a staff member, a player, a unit --- that whole unity thing is out the window and coach becomes a hypocrite. I actually give him credit for saying what he did say -- keeping unity through adversity is the mark of a good coach. And this team goes to fight every week.

 

[UptownPrivileges]

That is crap.

You have no idea if it was play calling or execution.

And the refs DID cost us the game. IT WAS 14-12 with a few minutes left! We had the game.

Just like the refs cost us the game last time in ND.

Could we have won the game 650-0 if play calling and execution were absolutely perfect? Sure... but I dont like in crazy town, so it is what it is. And what it was was 14-12 late in the 4th qrt with a bs PI and a non hold call out in the open.

Maybe the refs blew a call. complaining about offiaciating is for losers, that game was there to be won. several times Pitt was at midfield when the drive stalled. end of the game 2nd & 4 either run up the gut w/ Hall or wildcat w/ hall didn't stop it all day. only other play would have been Matthews on that short pass in rt flat.
It was coaching, I was there. our idiot coach lost his mind after the PI call & quit coaching.
when Pitt gets a new coach, I am hoping its a guy that delagates, and whena call goes against him, just starts thinking on how to overcome it, not get caught up in whining about it. there was plaenty of time to win the game, Narduzzi chose to act like a little kid whose favorite toy got lost.
I want an adult coaching Pitt.
He has to go, tired of the act, the lack of recruiting & the total lack of player development.
KP may or may not be the problem, but I think Dan Marino would have trouble developing anything down field w/ that OL.

I am going to next 2 games, not sure if I will just tailgate & go home or actually attend the game as well.
Next Pitt coach :
1) Strong
2) Butch Jones
3) Bielema
4) Big 12 OC
5) SEC OC

 

[President Stache]

Maybe the refs blew a call. complaining about offiaciating is for losers, that game was there to be won. several times Pitt was at midfield when the drive stalled. end of the game 2nd & 4 either run up the gut w/ Hall or wildcat w/ hall didn't stop it all day. only other play would have been Matthews on that short pass in rt flat.
It was coaching, I was there. our idiot coach lost his mind after the PI call & quit coaching.
when Pitt gets a new coach, I am hoping its a guy that delagates, and whena call goes against him, just starts thinking on how to overcome it, not get caught up in whining about it. there was plaenty of time to win the game, Narduzzi chose to act like a little kid whose favorite toy got lost.
I want an adult coaching Pitt.
He has to go, tired of the act, the lack of recruiting & the total lack of player development.
KP may or may not be the problem, but I think Dan Marino would have trouble developing anything down field w/ that OL.

I am going to next 2 games, not sure if I will just tailgate & go home or actually attend the game as well.
Next Pitt coach :
1) Strong
2) Butch Jones
3) Bielema
4) Big 12 OC
5) SEC OC

Bullsh*t, I would complain even if we won.

 

[BFo8]

Maybe the refs blew a call. complaining about offiaciating is for losers, that game was there to be won. several times Pitt was at midfield when the drive stalled. end of the game 2nd & 4 either run up the gut w/ Hall or wildcat w/ hall didn't stop it all day. only other play would have been Matthews on that short pass in rt flat.
It was coaching, I was there. our idiot coach lost his mind after the PI call & quit coaching.
when Pitt gets a new coach, I am hoping its a guy that delagates, and whena call goes against him, just starts thinking on how to overcome it, not get caught up in whining about it. there was plaenty of time to win the game, Narduzzi chose to act like a little kid whose favorite toy got lost.
I want an adult coaching Pitt.
He has to go, tired of the act, the lack of recruiting & the total lack of player development.
KP may or may not be the problem, but I think Dan Marino would have trouble developing anything down field w/ that OL.

I am going to next 2 games, not sure if I will just tailgate & go home or actually attend the game as well.
Next Pitt coach :
1) Strong
2) Butch Jones
3) Bielema
4) Big 12 OC
5) SEC OC

Holy crap those first 3 names are all horrible, I’d rather take a chance with an unknown than any of those clowns. At least there would be a chance of them working out.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I would complain even if we won.

Truer words were never spoken!

 

[McKee Place]

Holy crap those first 3 names are all horrible, I’d rather take a chance with an unknown than any of those clowns. At least there would be a chance of them working out.

Not only that, we'd never pay what they'd command. It will be another coordinator, or perhaps a lower level HC.

 

[quip]

I figured out what I hate most about Narduzzi. He exaggerates this stupid fallacy that stopping the run and running the ball yourself are the most critical aspects of winning a football game. In 1958, this was definitely true. In 2018, it is not true. I also hate that because we reside in Pittsburgh, we are somehow born to love this 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense where your QB is basically invisible. Narduzzi has to understand, we are a progressive city that loves passing offenses. There aren’t 50 steel mills lining the rivers anymore.

Football is football. Trends come and go. Controlling the ball keeps the other teams offense off the field. THAT is the best strategy.

 

[#99HUGHgreen]

Maybe the refs blew a call... that game was there to be won. several times Pitt was at midfield when the drive stalled... there was plaenty of time to win the game,

Yup.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Football is football. Trends come and go. Controlling the ball keeps the other teams offense off the field. THAT is the best strategy.

Scoring more points than your opponent is the best strategy. There are different paths of getting there but time of possession is actually not the standard that is used to determine a victory -- for some reason, the refs go by points scored.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Scoring more points than your opponent is the best strategy. There are different paths of getting there but time of possession is actually not the standard that is used to determine a victory -- for some reason, the refs go by points scored.

Time of possession is the most meaningless stat.