Because he wasn't fast or flashy? And said "who cares about assist-to-turnover ratio?" And just wanted "talented" players who "didn't need to be overcoached?"
Remember all the Pitt fans who didn't like James Robinson
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Are you implying that they were wrong about Robinson? They weren't. He was a very limited player who struggled to make an impact in most facets of the game.
Trey and X are playing like trash, but it's comically obvious that it's a mental thing. They're both pressing and making poor decisions. They also each possess skill sets that Robinson could only dream of having and would undoubtedly make a bigger impact than he did over four years.
Trey and X are playing like trash, but it's comically obvious that it's a mental thing. They're both pressing and making poor decisions. They also each possess skill sets that Robinson could only dream of having and would undoubtedly make a bigger impact than he did over four years.
James Robinson might be the most under appreciated pitt player of all time.
Oh jeez, shut up. Jrob made plenty of big shots in his career.
A player like Robinson is best when surrounded by talent, because he would get the talent the ball in good spots. Pitt didn't have that kind of talent, so JR had to try to do more than he was capable of.
37% career shooter who couldn't create his own shot and wasn't a playmaker. Your characterization of him is as limited in scope as his skill set. He did some things well, some things poorly and, on the balance of things, he was slightly above average.
He did Most things well - on both sides of the court
It’s why he’s won a lot of games
that idiots still hate on him only shows how short sighted our fans are
James Robinson was bad for the team Pitt had. He was playing 4 on 5 on offense. He couldn't shoot, couldn't make a play, couldn't get anyone open shots. Put him on a blue blood and tell him "just dont screw up" and he would have been ok. When you have Cam Wright, Chris Jones, and Sterling Smith as your "shooting guards," you better hope you can get some O out of your PG and Robinson gave us nothing. He didn't turn it over and that's great but he also didn't take any chances. He was the Tino Sunseri of Pitt basketball.
I would take Xavier Johnson a million times out of a million.
I would take Xavier Johnson a million times out of a million.
He may not need to since he wouldn’t have 8 TOs and no assists.
Not sure I'd completely agree. James hit quite a few big shots to win games.
He wouldn't have been able to make a circus shot like X hit tonight. But he was pretty darn good in the clutch. I can name many games if you would like.
Would have loved to have seen if he makes the shot against Wisconsin to win the NCAA game if Mike Young hadn't slammed into him as he shot it.
On a somewhat different note, just think how the course of Pitt basketball changes if that shot goes down.
Robinson wasn't good. I know that's tough to hear. Also, neither was Tino. The stats say they are legends. But I have eyeballs.
Are they the same eyeballs that tried to tell us how good Nicholls is?
You bet. And that said VT was a good team after watching them play half of a half.
And those eyeballs have been wrong many, many, many more times than they’ve been right.
Young should have been called for a foul on that play, too bad the rules don't allow for it. How clueless can you be to foul a teammate attempting to make the winning shot?
it’s because the Wisconsin player shoved him in the back into Robinson and the refs blew the call.
I'll put that on Young. He should have been looking to create better spacing for James. James cut to the middle of the court, and Mike never changed his course going down the lane.
Whatever JRob added on the offensive end was too often given back and then some on the other end of the court. I would love to know how many opposing guards had career nights playing Pitt when matched up with JRob. In his defense, he wasn't athletic enough to keep up with an opposing guard who was athletic but was stuck playing them.
The running joke before games back then in section 101 was how was Pitt going to overcome the opposing PG's career night?
Robinson cannot make everyone on the court better because he had no offensive ability. But as I said, on a very good team, he would be an asset to just have him "run the show" without screwing up. He was just a "swing guy." But on a good team, he can do that because he's swinging it to guys who can make a play.
James Robinson would be great on this team. If X and Trey would work to get open and cut to the basket he would average a dozen assists a game.
James Robinson would fit this team like a glove. And not OJs glove either.
His shot wasn’t bad when he was set , too many times he was left with no other option than to jack one up to beat the shot clock .
Shot 40% from they field ,32% from 3, 80% from the line and averaged only 1.3 turnovers playing 32 minutes a game
His only fault was being really good as a true frosh and not improving .
Because some people don’t grasp that not everyone improves linearly .
The sophomore struggles should be a glaringly obvious example this season
But the obvious escapes plenty
I'd take XJ over the guard who shot under 38% FROM THE FIELD during his time at Pitt. Was James good? Certainly. Was he underrated? Absolutely. His best season was 10pts 5 dimes per game.
If you put this guy on Pitt's roster now instead of X our team is worse. Plain and simple. X is a threat, James wasn't. He made good passes and the motion offense helped him. X is forced to do a lot. Comparing the two at this point isn't fair at all.. considering the caliber of each team and what each kid is forced/not forced to do.
If you put this guy on Pitt's roster now instead of X our team is worse. Plain and simple. X is a threat, James wasn't. He made good passes and the motion offense helped him. X is forced to do a lot. Comparing the two at this point isn't fair at all.. considering the caliber of each team and what each kid is forced/not forced to do.
him jacking up shots at the end of the shot clock is the reason he shot under 38% from the field at Pitt?
Pitt wished they had guards that could hit 38% from the field right now . ( exclusive of layups and dunks )
Throwing up 2 or 3 bad shots per game to beat the shot clock will effect your shooting % unless your a high volume guy . ( which he wasn’t )
I'm talking about a 4 year sample size her. Not 1 year. Not 15 games. Certainly not 7 games like you've negligently pointed out. 4 years. His 38% wasn't because of late clock chucking. That's absurd to even suggest that.
Brad wannamaker is the leader in the clubhouse followed by Ronald Ramon
No , but it does lower your shooting % . I’m not implying he was ever a great shooter , but he’s nowhere as poor a shooter as Pitts current guards are with the exception of Murphy . His leadership was his strength along with his assist / turnover ratio , something that is sorely missing right now . Not everyone needs to score to be effective . Pitt without JRob was a complete disaster even with two exceptional college bb players and an up and coming future #1 draft pick .
I’ll throw Lamar Patterson on this list too.
Do you realize that you are making the argument the JRob was better than not having a point guard?
I'm not sure anyone would argue that point...
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