People playing Thursday and Friday games? Oops.
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Delaney is a genius.
College football is 100% about TV. Fans going to games is a secondary concern. Although I would hate it, P5s should be playing Tuesdays and Wednesdays also especially since Thursday night lost its luster with the NFL taking over.
Boston College vs Wake Forest draws a heck of a lot more viewers on a Tuesday than on a Saturday. It only makes sense.
You have to think outside the box when it comes to TV.
College football is 100% about TV. Fans going to games is a secondary concern. Although I would hate it, P5s should be playing Tuesdays and Wednesdays also especially since Thursday night lost its luster with the NFL taking over.
Boston College vs Wake Forest draws a heck of a lot more viewers on a Tuesday than on a Saturday. It only makes sense.
You have to think outside the box when it comes to TV.
Delany is a genius, but his conference is the last one to play on weeknights.
PS - he does an excellent job, just pointing out that when Swofford made this same deal for more money, people ripped him.
Yeah, highly doubt he signed willingly. More like kicking and screaming. Interesting he helped create the tv money monster. Oh well.
Owtie,
They didn't willingly schedule the game on a Friday. It was moved to a Friday because the Twins needed the Metrodome for the American League playoffs. It's not the same thing.
They didn't willingly schedule the game on a Friday. It was moved to a Friday because the Twins needed the Metrodome for the American League playoffs. It's not the same thing.
Let me guess the host schools: MD, Rutgers, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue and Northwestern. am i close?
The Nitters were everywhere ridiculing the BE when they started playing on Thursday nights. To their chagrin, those games not only garnered good ratings but also a captive audience. In fact the ratings are good enough that the promoters of all promoters, the NFL, stepped into the fray.
Having said that Friday night games are a disaster IMHO. Too much competition from local HS games. I'm actually shocked that the B1G agreed to that.
I know that - what I think is very funny is how the Nitters looked down and made fun of weeknight games. All that tweet said is they aren't hosting any - but they can still play in one.
They will not HOST Friday night games. But they will play Friday night games I am guessing. In other words they will not make any of their fans choose between going to their local high school game or to the big Erector Set. And for that I commend them. But it is OK if fans in some other state are forced to make that choice.
I think it's actually more than that - PSU knows that they live in the middle of nowhere and a Friday night game will not only depress turnout because of travel complications, but it also negatively affects the businesses that rely on PSU football to survive. Remember Happy Valley exists ONLY for PSU.
Minnesota football was third in the pecking order for scheduling behind the Twins and Vikings, so when the Twins made the playoffs the Gophers were forced to move. It wasn't longer after that they started looking to build their own stadium.
Unless you're having a good season or it's a marquee matchup (also greatly helped if you're having a good season) a lot of weeknight games are not so hot from an attendance perspective, especially in the Northeast after the weather changes.
The Big Ten will dump the burden of hosting these games on the bottom feeders - but they'll absolutely expect some of their brand names to take part. Personally I think it's a mistake. I love the idea of a Friday night game, but I don't wanna watch two dogs - and I don't wanna watch Michigan or OSU just slap Indiana around. What made Thursday nights good and what makes it good now is that you can get some damn good games, games that actually mean something to the conference.
The Big Ten will dump the burden of hosting these games on the bottom feeders - but they'll absolutely expect some of their brand names to take part. Personally I think it's a mistake. I love the idea of a Friday night game, but I don't wanna watch two dogs - and I don't wanna watch Michigan or OSU just slap Indiana around. What made Thursday nights good and what makes it good now is that you can get some damn good games, games that actually mean something to the conference.
Plus, 6 is a lot.
From 2014:
Delany: "We're trying to enhance the (TV) package, but the notion that we're playing Friday nights -- I don't think it will happen while I'm here. There are much higher priorities." Delany, whose contract runs through June '18, said that he "took exception to a headline on Madison.com --- 'OK with Badgers football on Friday night?'" He said the headline "gave the impression that we're going to do it." Delany said that the three biggest obstacles to Friday night games are "interference with high school games, the potential of missed class time for players and whether campuses can handle a weekday crowd."
From 2014:
Delany: "We're trying to enhance the (TV) package, but the notion that we're playing Friday nights -- I don't think it will happen while I'm here. There are much higher priorities." Delany, whose contract runs through June '18, said that he "took exception to a headline on Madison.com --- 'OK with Badgers football on Friday night?'" He said the headline "gave the impression that we're going to do it." Delany said that the three biggest obstacles to Friday night games are "interference with high school games, the potential of missed class time for players and whether campuses can handle a weekday crowd."
For schools like OSU, PSU and Michigan, hosting on a Friday would cost them a lot of $$$. It doesn't really make sense for the league to schedule OSU or Michigan to play away on Fridays, either, because a ton of people watch them on TV every Saturday, whereas no one that isn't a fan of Indiana or Northwestern is gonna watch those teams play on Saturday when there are other options. Gonna be a whooole lot of Indiana, NW, Purdue, Rutgers and Minnesota on Fridays...
I would expect the Big 1011 will tell UM and PSU... OK, no home games. But get your white uniforms ready cuz you'll be playing one of these Friday roadies every year.
PSU already said they are only nixing games at home, not away. PSU doesn't have the same kind of power that UM and tOSU have in the B1G.
I liked it. College football basically gives up 6 days a week. That is crazy. I know Saturday is tradition but nobody cares about fans attending games. P5 games should be played Tuesday-Saturday. I've even said before there should be a 9AM MAC, CUSA, or Sun Belt game. Heck, maybe even a 10 AM Sunday G5 game. Instead of showing game replays at those times, they should show actual games.
The 6 Friday night hosts will be:
Rutgers
Maryland
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois or Minnesota
They have the smallest stadiums to fill and lose less for a Friday night.
I'd imagine the contract will call for 6 of the following:
Mich
MSU
OSU
PSU
Wis
Neb
Iowa
Min or Ill
to play 1 Friday roady per year. Since that's a pool of 9 teams, they are probably looking at 2 Friday roadies in a 3 year period.
For Penn State, I would imagine they play in College Park or Piscataway on Friday nights because with the local Peds, those games sell out regardless.
If only Pedst would have taken such a hardline on "other" important matters....like a child's welfare.
agree. what you are going to get from the b10 are games that wouldn't be on TV on saturday. So RU vs Indiana if neither are having good season's. Or Illnois vs PSU. You will have PSU, OSU and WI on friday night on the road against a bad b10 team or two bad b10 teams. Its just a way to get another game on a national broadcast, a game that wouldn't have been if it was on saturday. Problem for the lower rung b10 programs is they are the ones that are going to have their attendance reduced and reduced on occasion against one of their Marquee programs on the schedule.
Yeah it has hurt thursday night games. When they first started there were no other games. Only FB on TV during the week except for MNF. In a FB crazed nation, it drew really well. They also didn't just play the bad games on that day. In the BE they were playing their best games of the weekend on most cases. The NFL coming in hurts because most FB fans will watch that game unless its a bad matchup or they are fans of the college teams.
Of course not. I'd be surprised, though, if the Big Two can refuse to play Friday Night road games.
Ohio State --- surprisingly --- has agreed to host one of these Friday Night games on a 1-in-every-3-years basis.
It's probably a whole lot easier from a practical basis for OSU to host vs. PSU --- fans can get to an urban location easier vs. the forests of Central Pennsylvania. But Ohio State's decision does surprise me.
It's probably a whole lot easier from a practical basis for OSU to host vs. PSU --- fans can get to an urban location easier vs. the forests of Central Pennsylvania. But Ohio State's decision does surprise me.
How do you see the Iowa Game going at Beaver? can you give a Prediction? Thanks in advance!
Definitely an interesting match-up.
Iowa is like many other Iowa teams in the Ferentz era --- an unexplosive offense that grinds out drives that result in Field Goals, combined with a defense which limits explosive plays and forces one to drive the length of the field.
Penn State is the opposite --- an explosive offense that can score on any play but also struggles to have 12-play-type touchdown drives, combined with a defense which is getting better but is still vulnerable to big plays over the top.
If it does become a field-position battle type of game --- that's edge Ferentz. He's played those types of games dozens of times in his career, while Franklin is prone to 1-2 strange decisions in games like this (witness the 2014 Michigan game, the most prominent example of such).
However, PSU does still have, IMO, the 2 biggest potential game-changers on the field, in Barkley and Godwin. Iowa's offense doesn't have an individual talent on that level.
My prediction, I guess I'll hedge my bets. PSU to win, but not cover the 7.5 point spread.
"michnittlion, post: 1648099, member: 5996"]Definitely an interesting match-up.
Always enjoy and respect your Posts even when agreeing to disagree, you show candor, tolerance, and focus on insightful subjects, thank you!
Iowa is like many other Iowa teams in the Ferentz era --- an unexplosive offense that grinds out drives that result in Field Goals, combined with a defense which limits explosive plays and forces one to drive the length of the field.
Yes, totally agree, i will be a tad more Specific. Ferents Mentor was Joe Moore the Great OL Coach at Pitt when he started as Grad Assistant. Ferentz is known to he puts much importance on developing his Offensive Line. They are his key to his Offense, with adequate QBs, RBs and WRs. He loves TEs as well as an important part of his Offensive System. When he has a Very Good QB he is even tougher to beat!
On Defense that is his Baby as well, just Tough DLs, "LBs", and DBs and how he beat Paterno going 8-3! This is why I find this game a big test for Franklin? To be accurate, I do not think Franklin is Bad Coach at all just not the Right Fit for Penn State! Just a Hunch not a Guess!
Penn State is the opposite --- an explosive offense that can score on any play but also struggles to have 12-play-type touchdown drives, combined with a defense which is getting better but is still vulnerable to big plays over the top.
Agree again, Iowa will grind it out more than Big Plays, but I see it has how Iowa Defense will deal with the Pitt Moorhead Think Tank Offense. oddly enough, Ferentz like he did against Paterno barley got by Pitt has well under his Tenure. Ferentz is 3-1, Going 20-21 against Wannstedt in 2008, beating GraHAM 31-27 in 2011, Chryst 2014 24-20, and Narduzzi last year 27-24, all Games Pitt could have won, but Ferentz perverseness and superb Coaching!
If it does become a field-position battle type of game --- that's edge Ferentz. He's played those types of games dozens of times in his career, while Franklin is prone to 1-2 strange decisions in games like this (witness the 2014 Michigan game, the most prominent example of such).
You hit on why I feel Franklin won't last at PSU! Just my opinion! We shall see?
However, PSU does still have, IMO, the 2 biggest potential game-changers on the field, in Barkley and Godwin. Iowa's offense doesn't have an individual talent on that level.
Agree in part, I think the biggest weapon is Barkley but it is McSorley making him go, and Godwin is benefit from them. Just a view not saying I am right.
My prediction, I guess I'll hedge my bets. PSU to win, but not cover the 7.5 point spread.
I have no clue, I see Pitt, Penn State, WVU all works in progress in improving to become Top 25 Teams again. Trying to predict all 3 for tough games is just pure guessing due to what Team shows up, Coaching sideline decisions and unsure Players Execution. Toss up Games for Pitt and PSU this week. Iowa wins at Beaver being 4-2?
Why it is a big tests for Franklin, if Franklin beats Ferentz I would call that a Signature Win against a Great Coach......same for Narduzzi against Richt!
Thanks again!
Always enjoy and respect your Posts even when agreeing to disagree, you show candor, tolerance, and focus on insightful subjects, thank you!
Iowa is like many other Iowa teams in the Ferentz era --- an unexplosive offense that grinds out drives that result in Field Goals, combined with a defense which limits explosive plays and forces one to drive the length of the field.
Yes, totally agree, i will be a tad more Specific. Ferents Mentor was Joe Moore the Great OL Coach at Pitt when he started as Grad Assistant. Ferentz is known to he puts much importance on developing his Offensive Line. They are his key to his Offense, with adequate QBs, RBs and WRs. He loves TEs as well as an important part of his Offensive System. When he has a Very Good QB he is even tougher to beat!
On Defense that is his Baby as well, just Tough DLs, "LBs", and DBs and how he beat Paterno going 8-3! This is why I find this game a big test for Franklin? To be accurate, I do not think Franklin is Bad Coach at all just not the Right Fit for Penn State! Just a Hunch not a Guess!
Penn State is the opposite --- an explosive offense that can score on any play but also struggles to have 12-play-type touchdown drives, combined with a defense which is getting better but is still vulnerable to big plays over the top.
Agree again, Iowa will grind it out more than Big Plays, but I see it has how Iowa Defense will deal with the Pitt Moorhead Think Tank Offense. oddly enough, Ferentz like he did against Paterno barley got by Pitt has well under his Tenure. Ferentz is 3-1, Going 20-21 against Wannstedt in 2008, beating GraHAM 31-27 in 2011, Chryst 2014 24-20, and Narduzzi last year 27-24, all Games Pitt could have won, but Ferentz perverseness and superb Coaching!
If it does become a field-position battle type of game --- that's edge Ferentz. He's played those types of games dozens of times in his career, while Franklin is prone to 1-2 strange decisions in games like this (witness the 2014 Michigan game, the most prominent example of such).
You hit on why I feel Franklin won't last at PSU! Just my opinion! We shall see?
However, PSU does still have, IMO, the 2 biggest potential game-changers on the field, in Barkley and Godwin. Iowa's offense doesn't have an individual talent on that level.
Agree in part, I think the biggest weapon is Barkley but it is McSorley making him go, and Godwin is benefit from them. Just a view not saying I am right.
My prediction, I guess I'll hedge my bets. PSU to win, but not cover the 7.5 point spread.
I have no clue, I see Pitt, Penn State, WVU all works in progress in improving to become Top 25 Teams again. Trying to predict all 3 for tough games is just pure guessing due to what Team shows up, Coaching sideline decisions and unsure Players Execution. Toss up Games for Pitt and PSU this week. Iowa wins at Beaver being 4-2?
Why it is a big tests for Franklin, if Franklin beats Ferentz I would call that a Signature Win against a Great Coach......same for Narduzzi against Richt!
Thanks again!
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