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Who has no choice to come back if they come back to school?
 
Horton had to sit out a year when he came to Pitt from Delaware. So I think he can still transfer and be immediately eligible Somewhere else.
 
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Burton, Oladapo, and Sibande don't have a free transfer left.

Horton does but his charge, even if expunged, will scare away good teams. His actions are a huge red flag and I doubt he can do better than Pitt because of it.

Femi and Hugley can transfer for free. Hugley has a red flag also but he's good enough to warrant someone taking him.

No one else matters.
 
Burton, Oladapo, and Sibande don't have a free transfer left.

Horton does but his charge, even if expunged, will scare away good teams. His actions are a huge red flag and I doubt he can do better than Pitt because of it.

Femi and Hugley can transfer for free. Hugley has a red flag also but he's good enough to warrant someone taking him.

No one else matters.

Lol. Teams will be more scared aware by the fact that Horton disappears every other game. Nobody cares that he made 1 mistake and a tough guy young cop used him to prove a point. Nobody.
 
Lol. Teams will be more scared aware by the fact that Horton disappears every other game. Nobody cares that he made 1 mistake and a tough guy young cop used him to prove a point. Nobody.
A good team isnt taking Horton. Sorry. He isnt good enough for the perceived risk.
 
A good team isnt taking Horton. Sorry. He isnt good enough for the perceived risk.

Lol. There is no risk. None. He ran into a punk cop. Trust me on this one.

There’s more risk on say Xavier who’s proven to be somewhat uncoachable. And he ended up on an NCAAT team.

Also Horton isn’t anything special but good teams surely can use a bench guy who sometimes will shoot 7-11 from 3. When he stinks like he sometimes does they have other guys to play.
 
Lol. There is no risk. None. He ran into a punk cop. Trust me on this one.

There’s more risk on say Xavier who’s proven to be somewhat uncoachable. And he ended up on an NCAAT team.

Also Horton isn’t anything special but good teams surely can use a bench guy who sometimes will shoot 7-11 from 3. When he stinks like he sometimes does they have other guys to play.

Its perceived risk. The university general counsel is going to have to opine on whether or not a basketball player who allegedly punched a cop should be admitted. No good programs are going to take him. He isn't worth it. Plus, he is staying at Pitt if Capel stays anyway. It isnt worth it for him to go play at Nebraska
 
Burton, Oladapo, and Sibande don't have a free transfer left.

Horton does but his charge, even if expunged, will scare away good teams. His actions are a huge red flag and I doubt he can do better than Pitt because of it.

Femi and Hugley can transfer for free. Hugley has a red flag also but he's good enough to warrant someone taking him.

No one else matters.
Not a bad start for the new coach
 
Burton, Oladapo, and Sibande don't have a free transfer left.

Horton does but his charge, even if expunged, will scare away good teams. His actions are a huge red flag and I doubt he can do better than Pitt because of it.

Femi and Hugley can transfer for free. Hugley has a red flag also but he's good enough to warrant someone taking him.

No one else matters.

I have to assume at least some of these guys have graduated. If that's the case, I believe they're free to transfer and play.
 
Burton, Oladapo, and Sibande don't have a free transfer left.

Horton does but his charge, even if expunged, will scare away good teams. His actions are a huge red flag and I doubt he can do better than Pitt because of it.

Femi and Hugley can transfer for free. Hugley has a red flag also but he's good enough to warrant someone taking him.

No one else matters.
Horton’s play will scare off “good” teams. He’s not nearly good enough to be on a good team. Streaky shooting every other 3/4/5 games - pfffft. And that’s all he’s good at. If he’s not making shots he’s useless.
 
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Horton’s play will scare off “good” teams. He’s not nearly good enough to be on a good team. Streaky shooting every other 3/4/5 games - pfffft. And that’s all he’s good at. If he’s not making shots he’s useless.

He is shooting 42% from 3. If it wasn't for his arrest, almost any good team would take him as a 1 year shooter off the bench.
 
He’s a streaky shooter who is of no value if his shot is off. He is a poor defender.
Stop with the defense. He is pretty close to being an elite shooter. He is shooting 42% for the season. As a freshman, he shot 41%. He shot 37% last year but had a very slow start. Was probably well over 40% from December on.
 
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Stop with the defense. He is pretty close to being an elite shooter. He is shooting 42% for the season. As a freshman, he shot 41%. He shot 37% last year but had a very slow start. Was probably well over 40% from December on.
If you score 10 and give up 14, then you are a net -4. Horton is nowhere close to an elite shooter and he is such a stud that we have a losing record with him in the lineup over the last 2 years.
 
If you score 10 and give up 14, then you are a net -4. Horton is nowhere close to an elite shooter and he is such a stud that we have a losing record with him in the lineup over the last 2 years.

He plays on a terrible team. I bet you think Micah Mason couldn't play at the ACC level too, right? Defense is overrated. His guy isn't outscoring him every night
 
He plays on a terrible team. I bet you think Micah Mason couldn't play at the ACC level too, right? Defense is overrated. His guy isn't outscoring him every night
Horton or Mason are not starting for a good college basketball team. They provide a spark off the bench when their shot is on.
 
His guy isn't outscoring him every night


His guy doesn't have to be outscoring him every night for him to be a negative player. If Horton's man dribbles right past him and Hugley has to come off his man to pick him up and the guy with the ball passes to Hugley's man for a dunk it's Hugley's man who scored the points, but Horton is the one at fault for the points being scored.

And something like that happens every game. And in most games, like, for instance, both last night and the game on Saturday, it happens a lot more than one time per game.
 
For a good team, it means almost everything. There's no way a legit program can take him. Maybe like a WVU-type. It would have to be a low standards type place.

You are an idiot. He bumped a cop and the cop didn’t like it when Ithiel mouthed off. It was a one time thing. He’s a great kid.

He didn’t commit murder or armed robbery. Literally nobody will care. Look at King Rice’s comments. Hell college coaches get DUIs and are out 1-2 games max.

It’s completely irrelevant. There are no character concerns with him. At all. Especially so now.
 
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You are an idiot. He bumped a cop and the cop didn’t like it when Ithiel mouthed off. It was a one time thing. He’s a great kid.

He didn’t commit murder or armed robbery. Literally nobody will care. Look at King Rice’s comments. Hell college coaches get DUIs and are out 1-2 games max.

It’s completely irrelevant. There are no character concerns with him. At all. Especially so now.
Literally every single person on this board wanted him gone except me. I was ridiculed for saying he should come back. And now, its no big deal? I know it really wasn't that big of a deal but a good program isnt taking a marginal P6 player because of what he did. Horton will be at Pitt next year if Capel is here. I will be right again.
 
His guy doesn't have to be outscoring him every night for him to be a negative player. If Horton's man dribbles right past him and Hugley has to come off his man to pick him up and the guy with the ball passes to Hugley's man for a dunk it's Hugley's man who scored the points, but Horton is the one at fault for the points being scored.

And something like that happens every game. And in most games, like, for instance, both last night and the game on Saturday, it happens a lot more than one time per game.
How many points did he give up against FSU and UNC? He is a major weapon.
 
Horton will have a nice choice of teams if he chooses to transfer. His issue is behind him and we showed other teams that he is past it by playing after the issue! If I were him I would look for greener pastures!
 
Horton will have a nice choice of teams if he chooses to transfer. His issue is behind him and we showed other teams that he is past it by playing after the issue! If I were him I would look for greener pastures!
The issue is behind him but a General Counsel is going to have to sign on a school taking him. Its going to take a "special" place like WVU.
 
But his defense is so bad that he isnt a D1 player like Micah Mason according to some people. He will make 6 3s and give up 7, remember? Defense, defense, defense. 3 point shooting is irrelevant in today's game.
We know you don’t attend games.. After your last 2 posts in this thread, we now know you don’t even watch games..

0-5 from 3 is special though..

SMF knows? I’m not sure
 
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But his defense is so bad that he isnt a D1 player like Micah Mason according to some people. He will make 6 3s and give up 7, remember? Defense, defense, defense. 3 point shooting is irrelevant in today's game.
His 3 pt shooting ability will be enough of an enticement to many teams coming off the bench!
 
We know you don’t attend games.. After your last 2 posts in this thread, we now know you don’t even watch games..

0-5 from 3 is special though..

SMF knows? I’m not sure

He is shooting 42% for the year.....including 3-9 vs GT which at 33% isnt great but not terrible. He is pretty close to being an elite 3 point shooter.

This is a confusing thread because there are so many differing views on Horton

- not a D1 player due to his poor defense and sometimes misses 3s even though his overall percentage indicates he shoots them at a high level

- so good that he will have his pick of teams to transfer to despite a drunken physical altercation with a cop
 
Do you think Micah Mason, the 4th best 3 point shooter of all time could have gotten meaningful PT at Pitt?


Sure. In an idea world he'd have been used just like Horton would be used in a ideal world. A guy who averages 15 minutes or so a night that you would get to by playing him 25 minutes on the nights he was shooting threes well and 10 minutes on the nights that he's not.

Now it's your turn. Do you seriously think that in games like Tuesday or last Saturday that the fact that Horton made some threes made up for the awful work he did on the defensive end?
 
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Sure. In an idea world he'd have been used just like Horton would be used in a ideal world. A guy who averages 15 minutes or so a night that you would get to by playing him 25 minutes on the nights he was shooting threes well and 10 minutes on the nights that he's not.

Now it's your turn. Do you seriously think that in games like Tuesday or last Saturday that the fact that Horton made some threes made up for the awful work he did on the defensive end?

I agree with you on Mason. Most people felt he wasnt ACC material or maybe we were in the Big East then. A kid who shoots it like that can play anywhere. Same goes for Horton. On an NCAAT team, I don't think he should be playing 30 minutes but he is better overall than Mason. For example, I would play Horton over Cam Wright or Chris Jones on some of those bubble teams but if he is really struggling on D or not hitting, he comes out.
 
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