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Rowan no longer a possibility for 2015

Bo Ryan just announced his retirement yesterday, effective at the end of the upcoming season.

Gottfried was very much on the hot seat a year ago...


St. John's? Dad's alma mater and former teammate the coach...not sure about their roster or chance at success...but, that seems to be where this one is pointing...but, he is making a decision in August now? Things can certainly change again...would assume EVERY school in America with one open 'ship would be all over him...
 
Gottfried just really bothers me. I'll give him credit for advancing to the Sweet 16 though on paper, I think his NCSU team was roughly just as talented as the #1 Nova team he beat but for such a high profile recruit like Rowan, I just cant see him playing in Raleigh, NC for a middling program just because their coach is a cool dude and likes to play up-tempo.
They are Pitt with better history and fan support.
 
Yes, but recruits dont care about the games Jimmy V won. I just cant see a borderline McDonald's AA from Raleigh wanting to play at Pitt. That's what gets me. Its mostly Gottfried.

Well that and make no bones about, the NC State boosters know how to play the game as well as anyone and by history's account, the school doesn't exactly discourage it.
 
Well that and make no bones about, the NC State boosters know how to play the game as well as anyone and by history's account, the school doesn't exactly discourage it.
Frankly, I'm pretty tired of hearing about this train wreck Best of luck to the kid...if he plays against us, I hope we shut him down, otherwise......
 
Frankly, I'm pretty tired of hearing about this train wreck Best of luck to the kid...if he plays against us, I hope we shut him down, otherwise......
If he goes to State (NC that is), I would like to think the Zoo take cues from some its ancestors and some older alums educate the Zoo on Dougie West when he came to Fitzgerald as a Villanova Wildcat. I think it is time to up the ante.
 
If he goes to State (NC that is), I would like to think the Zoo take cues from some its ancestors and some older alums educate the Zoo on Dougie West when he came to Fitzgerald as a Villanova Wildcat. I think it is time to up the ante.
I loved the giant "check".....$15K payable to Doug. Was that the game where Fatso Rollie tried to get at Evans??
 
I loved the giant "check".....$15K payable to Doug. Was that the game where Fatso Rollie tried to get at Evans??
Besides the $15k check, I remember the gingling of car keys. The "holier than thou" Rollie said, "we don't do those kind of things here at Villanova".
 
Maybe for Rowan... they should have a giant puppet on a string with a puppet of his father... pulling the strings.
 
Besides the $15k check, I remember the gingling of car keys. The "holier than thou" Rollie said, "we don't do those kind of things here at Villanova".
The Doug West farce was a low point for each school. Nova retaliated for Pitt/ Calipari's buying Philly's Brian Shorter and particularly Bobby Martin away from a high school he had been stashed in, playing under a Rollie protege, by putting a full-court press on recruiting West, our best local kid.

I've always suspected Pitt was responsible for spiriting Shorter out of Philly to Oak Hill before his senior year in a failed attempt to get him eligible as a freshman, but I never had that confirmed by anyone. . That move outraged a lot of Philly fans because it prevented Shorter from breaking Wilt Chamberlin's Philly high school scoring record.

And, Mrs West actually showed a $10,000 check to some writers, signed by a Pitt booster who was also a trustee. I don't know which school wrote the first check, but Nova simply wrote the biggest check in the end and outbid us.
 
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TAKE AWAY HIS CAR! TAKE AWAY HIS CAR!!!

Seriously, in those days, the coaching staffs and boosters showed a "can do" attitude towards recruiting. Just......Evans couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.
 
Besides the $15k check, I remember the gingling of car keys. The "holier than thou" Rollie said, "we don't do those kind of things here at Villanova".


I sat behind Ironhead Heyward at that game in the student section under the hoop. Place was packed. I remember Ironhead had some choice words to scream at West that night. Fun times
 
The Doug West farce was a low point for each school. Nova retaliated for Pitt/ Calipari's buying Philly's Brian Shorter and particularly Bobby Martin away from a high school he had been stashed in, playing under a Rollie protege, by putting a full-court press on recruiting West, our best local kid.

I've always suspected Pitt was responsible for spiriting Shorter out of Philly to Oak Hill before his senior year in a failed attempt to get him eligible as a freshman, but I never had that confirmed by anyone. . That move outraged a lot of Philly fans because it prevented Shorter from breaking Wilt Chamberlin's Philly high school scoring record.

And, Mrs West actually showed a $10,000 check to some writers, signed by a Pitt booster who was also a trustee. I don't know which school wrote the first check, but Nova simply wrote the biggest check in the end and outbid us.

Did she cash the Pitt check?
 
Didn't he end up at USC?
Faulkner was never at USC. Despite committing here, He went to ASU after a friend of a Pitt coach had paid for his prep school, which is the specific violation that got Pitt basketball on probation. He was arrested several times there and eventually thrown off the team. He was also cited in NCAA recruiting allegations of providing improper benefits against a Clemson assistant. He ended up at 'Bama and I think he got them on on probation too, but I can't find any details on that today, even though I remember an article calling him "The first guy to put TWO schools on probation."

I used to subscribe to a now-defunct magazine called Eastern Basketball which frankly detailed all the seamy underside of recruiting. It was often VERY enlightening. It was published for over 20 years, from 1976 to 1997. It had 15000 subscribers but couldn't compete with ESPN and the internet. Very good little magazine for basketball fanatics.

Arguably, the success of the Big East had more to do with killing it than anything else. It's getting harder to recall eastern basketball before the Big East. Schools like St. Bonaventure, Fordham, Niagara, etc. were pretty much equal powers along with St. John's, Villanova and the rest of the Big 5, Providence and BC. American University was usually the power school in DC. Most schools were independents then. While the Eastern 8 had the regional conference concept first, Dave Gavitt was smart enough to focus on major TV markets and the rest is history.
 
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