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Shady McCoy in trouble

Ugly... it seems from the police report that he wasn't the one that threw the initial punch (26-year old named in report; McCoy is 27 years old).

Let's hope there is evidence to show he didn't pile on in the chaos. If so, no excuse for the actions, even if not aware they were off-duty officers at the time of the fight.
 
What I read is not too alarming in that this was a fight after hours between grown men, I don't really care to place anything but shared blame on any of them.
 
It seems former Pitt teammate TJ Porter is suspected as instigating the fight...

"According to CSNPhilly.com, the three officers purchased four bottles of champagne and Porter tried to take one of the bottles from Butler. After an argument broke out, the report states that McCoy, former NFL RB Curtis Brinkley and Christopher Henderson assisted [Porter]."
 
What I read is not too alarming in that this was a fight after hours between grown men, I don't really care to place anything but shared blame on any of them.
from what I read is that these guys were beaten up pretty badly. You have the leader of the Philly FOP calling Shady out by name. Don't think this is going to turn out well for him.


Complainant#1 transported himself to the Hospital where he was treated for a laceration to his right eye, broken nose, broken ribs, and a sprained thumb.

Complainant#2, was admitted to the Hospital where he received eight stitches over his left eye and is currently receiving treatment for a possible skull fracture.
 
It seems former Pitt teammate TJ Porter is suspected as instigating the fight...

"According to CSNPhilly.com, the three officers purchased four bottles of champagne and Porter tried to take one of the bottles from Butler. After an argument broke out, the report states that McCoy, former NFL RB Curtis Brinkley and Christopher Henderson assisted [Porter]."
If this "blows over" and their not in jail Shady,Porter, Brinkley and Henderson better think about finding another city to party in since they will be on the Philly law enforcement radar screen bigtime!
 
This was basically a despicable act, plain and simple. But I really blame these off duty officers just as much. Athletes and cops together is always gonna end bad, those two groups have bigger egos than the rest of the world combined. I just think cops should be held to a higher standard than a) being at nightclubs, apparently ordering, fighting over, whatever, bottles of champagne. b) starting and/or breaking up fights. It'd be one thing if he said hey, police, break it up. But no, being big, bad, police officers, they thought they'd just join in on the ruckus.

That's just how I feel about the cops' roles. In no way do I think Shady, T.J., Brinkley, whoever was involved should just be let off the hook. There is still no excuse for what they did either. I just know this is already turning into, "Well Shady broke a cop's skull." Really it was just Shady, the other guys, and the cops all acting like punks. Shady will get in trouble, and deserves to be punished severely if true. But it shouldn't be any worse for him than if the off-duty cop was a janitor. Sends a bad message both ways.
 
This was basically a despicable act, plain and simple. But I really blame these off duty officers just as much. Athletes and cops together is always gonna end bad, those two groups have bigger egos than the rest of the world combined. I just think cops should be held to a higher standard than a) being at nightclubs, apparently ordering, fighting over, whatever, bottles of champagne. b) starting and/or breaking up fights. It'd be one thing if he said hey, police, break it up. But no, being big, bad, police officers, they thought they'd just join in on the ruckus.

That's just how I feel about the cops' roles. In no way do I think Shady, T.J., Brinkley, whoever was involved should just be let off the hook. There is still no excuse for what they did either. I just know this is already turning into, "Well Shady broke a cop's skull." Really it was just Shady, the other guys, and the cops all acting like punks. Shady will get in trouble, and deserves to be punished severely if true. But it shouldn't be any worse for him than if the off-duty cop was a janitor. Sends a bad message both ways.

you are blaming the outnumbered police officers just as much as shady and the gang kicking them in the ribs and head while they were on the floor and advocating that police officers not break up fights? I'm taking off my Pitt blinders on this one. I have no idea as to whether or not these cops were being "big bad police officers" as you seem to know but I do think I have enough in the bank to know that Shady is a punk.
 
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you are blaming the outnumbered police officers just as much as shady and the gang kicking them in the ribs and head while they were on the floor and advocating that police officers not break up fights? I'm taking off my Pitt blinders on this one. I have no idea as to whether or not these cops were being "big bad police officers" as you seem to know but I do think I have enough in the bank to know that Shady is a punk.
Yes. And I'm also saying Shady was in the wrong, very much so, so I'm not using Pitt blinders. I'm just saying in addition to Shady being out of line, the cops were too. They weren't uniformed officers just breaking up a fight, they were off duty cops getting in the middle of things. If nobody can clearly see you're a cop, you're no different than anyone else. I just don't see how you can be charged with assaulting an officer, when nobody could've ever known he was a police officer. Now the fact that they beat a guy that badly in general, still a shameful act and Shady should be punished severely if guilty.
 
Yes. And I'm also saying Shady was in the wrong, very much so, so I'm not using Pitt blinders. I'm just saying in addition to Shady being out of line, the cops were too. They weren't uniformed officers just breaking up a fight, they were off duty cops getting in the middle of things. If nobody can clearly see you're a cop, you're no different than anyone else. I just don't see how you can be charged with assaulting an officer, when nobody could've ever known he was a police officer. Now the fact that they beat a guy that badly in general, still a shameful act and Shady should be punished severely if guilty.
yeah, maybe you have heard more than I have. I have no way of making a value judgment on the officers (other than one recently got a citation for rescuing someone from a burning building--prosecutor gonna love that one) to lead me to be certain that they were "out of line" too. Not sure how you can. Shady has a history. Not saying you might not be correct but I am guessing these cops knew who Shady was so I'm not sure why they would want to start something with him. That being said, I have not always used the best judgment at 2:30 in the morning in bars either.... Also, what kind of p***ies (cops and Shady and the gang) are buying champagne at closing time? unless they were buying it for.......this leads me to speculate the source of this problem may be, as it usually is, women....
 
yeah, maybe you have heard more than I have. I have no way of making a value judgment on the officers (other than one recently got a citation for rescuing someone from a burning building--prosecutor gonna love that one) to lead me to be certain that they were "out of line" too. Not sure how you can. Shady has a history. Not saying you might not be correct but I am guessing these cops knew who Shady was so I'm not sure why they would want to start something with him. That being said, I have not always used the best judgment at 2:30 in the morning in bars either.... Also, what kind of p***ies (cops and Shady and the gang) are buying champagne at closing time? unless they were buying it for.......this leads me to speculate the source of this problem may be, as it usually is, women....
Valid points. I don't know enough to say what definitely happened. I just think nobody used good judgement at all in the situation. I think it's pretty obvious too what you said, the cops clearly would know who Shady is.
 
Considering no charges filed yet.. I'd presume off duty cops aren't blameless.

Perhaps nobody should jump to conclusions either way.

Agreed. But regardless, the extent to which it appears these cops were beaten seems excessive. I have ZERO problem with someone defending themselves but this feels excessive. We shall see I guess.
 
Nothing good happens at 2:45 am when there's girls, boys and alcohol involved!
Yep. Made doubly worse when the others involved are cops - off duty or not. When it goes to the magistrate (or judge), Shady had better bring the KY along...or at the very least, his checkbook.

And he shouldn't be shocked of there are civil suits, too - there usually are when the smell of NFL money is in the air.
 
Yep. Made doubly worse when the others involved are cops - off duty or not. When it goes to the magistrate (or judge), Shady had better bring the KY along...or at the very least, his checkbook.

And he shouldn't be shocked of there are civil suits, too - there usually are when the smell of NFL money is in the air.
Regardless of who is to blame the person who will have real issues is the person who kicked or punched another who is on the ground.
Its one thing to defend yourself but another to continue to beat someone senseless once they're not in an attacking position or have stopped attacking especially if that person is seriously injured.
This will take a while to sort.
 
Regardless of who is to blame the person who will have real issues is the person who kicked or punched another who is on the ground.
Its one thing to defend yourself but another to continue to beat someone senseless once they're not in an attacking position or have stopped attacking especially if that person is seriously injured.
This will take a while to sort.
I believe the person with the real issues is the one who ordered champagne.
 
Sometimes the way to a woman's heart (and other body parts) involves champagne. As they've said, "Candy's dandy, but liquor's quicker." ;)
well yeah parrothead but this is 4 meatheads sitting at a club at 2:30am, not some romantic dinner on a ski chalet overlooking a snow storm next to a fire.
 
Agreed. But regardless, the extent to which it appears these cops were beaten seems excessive. I have ZERO problem with someone defending themselves but this feels excessive. We shall see I guess.
Yeah, the cops being somewhat to blame or also being thugs (just with badges) doesn't lessen the fact Shady acted like a thug and absolutely crossed the line. The way he and his friends acted in this, says the best thing for our society would be to have him locked away. He will get off and still make millions, but it is a shame. It will happen with players from every school, so throwing stones about it is very stupid.
 
Shady needs to settle down a little but the “women only” party is genius! If I were young rich and unattached I may do the same thing…..although I probably would have never thought this creatively!
 
Yeah, so you order the drinks to entice the kind of women Shady is interested in.
dude loves strange, more than anyone on this planet.. OK Jrip, good job, I didn't take into consideration this angle..
 
Considering no charges filed yet.. I'd presume off duty cops aren't blameless.

Perhaps nobody should jump to conclusions either way.

Perhaps nobody should jump to conclusions either way.

First day on the pantherlair message board, huh? Welcome aboard!
 
Yeah, so you order the drinks to entice the kind of women Shady is interested in.
^^^This^^^. I mean no disrespect to the women on this board, but in my experience (albeit waaay too limited ;)), women love the bubbly.

And drinking champagne in a lounge sends the message: "I want to party and I've got bucks". Drop the words that you're an NFL player, and the "deal" is sealed.
 
So I guess everybody should stay home forever, from this day forward !?!?!? God I HATE MODERN AMERICA! And the people that live in it.
well you can go out, just don't beat the living hell out of someone where they end up in hospital. You can do one without the other, it is possible.
 
I really am not defending Shady at all. He probably shouldn't be in the league anymore if he is charged. I just think our judicial system is seriously messed up for one, and off-duty cops shouldn't be getting into fights, and if they are, shouldn't be considered a cop in regards to the crimes committed.

As for the judicial system in correlation to the NFL, this is what really pisses me off. In Shady's case, there is no getting out of this if charged. He's done at that point. But Ray Lewis can be right at the scene of a DOUBLE MURDER, and not have an actual trial because he took a plea bargain. Then because he's an NFL superstar, the league barely even gets involved.

So basically the message America has sent is, if you beat up a cop, even if you don't even know he's a cop, you're finished. But some young kids in Atlanta are dead, and they don't even care if the right guy or guys got in trouble. As long as someone rats on someone else, that's all they need to know. It's really sad and pathetic.
 
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