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Should Pitt players kneel on Saturday?

Another pile of bullsh** form a liar. The NFL ratings were the highest uin years liar.... 50 percent of people aren't doing nothing liar. Go kiss your master's a$$. Hes the only one whho lies etter than you. Good by liar... Write you BS in Rusaia where you and your ilk bewlong.
What the heck is this?
 
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Sure if they want to lose a large percentage of the pathetic 30k who now the games have at it!

Polling today showed 70% of NFL watchers arent happy with the protests and 50% are shutting the NFL down. I just heard on a news broadcast that retailers in Pittsburgh and of Steelers merchandise are seeing a sharp decline in sales! Its happening!

Just this morning Direct TV ( we have it) agreed due to massive subscriber pressure to let subscribers cancel Sunday Ticket.

Do you realize how many people will stop watching after they cancel Sunday Ticket???? Huge #'s.

Today since Direct TV allowed it cancelled Sunday Ticket which we've had forever and arent watching any NFL games including the Steelers.

Last season we watched the Steelers on Sunday Ticket and no other NFL games.

Prior to that we watched the Steelers, the 1 pm the 4 pm, the Sunday night game, Thursday, and Monday night games.

Mrs Buffett and I are sports fanatics but now will pay for the NHL Center Ice for the PENS, MLB for the Pirates, we skip the NBA, watch college basketball and football, golf, tennis, NASCAR, INDY car racing, etc.
I'm a season ticket holder for about 25 years. I am also a Veteran of the US Army. What I saw Sunday for the Steeler Game was just about the most gutless protest I have ever witnessed and Villanueva magnified how gutless it was. I had to rewind it because we were just coming into the house putting some things away and wasn't really sure what I just saw. After seeing the rest of the Steelers in the comfort of the tunnel and shielding their accountability of dissent I was quick to turn it off about 10 minutes later. It took me this long because I was still a little confused but then read it was all planned.

There was a famous Supreme Court Case in the 1960s concerning pornography. It's tough to define EXACTLY what it is but someone famously said " I Know it when I see it ".

What the Steelers did was Not Patriotic.i just know it when I see it.

It may have been a Uniter for them but it was a divider to at least 50% of the eyeballs and maybe a lot more.

If Pitt pulled some stunt like that, I'm out forever. I will walk out and never return.

If a few kids were so compelled to kneel, I will chalk it up to being young and dumb. Someday they might realize how great the USA is compared to the rest of the World.

As for the Steelers ( and the NFL ) I'm really done for this year. If they even try to drag in some Military, Cops, First Responders this weekend as some dog and pony show, I would encourage those brave patriots to go to the 50 and walk out of the stadium.

I rarely get pissed off and last weekend was one of those times. I sure hope Pitt gives these kids some perspective and the vast majority don't pull a selfish act of drawing attention to themselves instead of one of the few signs of National Unity for a few minutes.
 
Another pile of bullsh** form a liar. The NFL ratings were the highest uin years liar.... 50 percent of people aren't doing nothing liar. Go kiss your master's a$$. Hes the only one whho lies etter than you. Good by liar... Write you BS in Rusaia where you and your ilk bewlong.
This is the second best post I've read on this board today. i've read it four times and I can honestly say I have not one clue what's happening here
 
Another pile of bullsh** form a liar. The NFL ratings were the highest uin years liar.... 50 percent of people aren't doing nothing liar. Go kiss your master's a$$. Hes the only one whho lies etter than you. Good by liar... Write you BS in Rusaia where you and your ilk bewlong.
NFL game ratings are down 11% this year.
 
it isn't like the threat of boycott will work, nobody comes to the games anyway. It could help with recruiting, it would definitely bring national attention to the school. And maybe give the media something else to focus on in case Rice beats them.
Last season at the night game two kids sitting in front of my crew did not stand for the NA. This was right after Colin what's his name started kneeling.
 
Call me stupid if want. I've seen this term used alot but what the hell is a yinzer?

Yinzer was started as a derogatory term for Steelers fans who value them above everything else. Much like any put down, it has now evolved beyond its original meaning to fit the individual user's definition not unlike the label snowflake.
 
NFL game ratings are down 11% this year.
That's a great stat as long as you don't take into account the fact that some NFL Network-only games were also broadcast on network television last year, or that ratings don't take into account games streamed on the internet, or that there was this little hurricane that hit during week 1, or that a Thursday night game featuring San Francisco (the team that started all of this) was up almost 40% over ratings from the same week last year.

Or that in a J.D. Power poll of 9,200 people that attended a professional sporting event in 2016 (roughly half of Neilson's sampling) only 12% said they watched fewer NFL games while 27% said they watched more games, and that only 3% of all respondents said they watched fewer games because of anthem protests while 5.6% said either domestic violence or too many delays and another 2% because of too many commercials.

Or many of a thousand other reasons that there is a decline in ratings.

But yeah, I'm pretty sure that finding the reasoning behind a trend from a 0.01% sample is pretty easy. Especially when that proposed reason lines up with your own opinions.

Edit: Not directed toward you, but more toward people that try and point to any singular reason for the decline in ratings.
 
Maybe the possibility will get fans into the stadium sooner to what the players do, lol.

Then leave before the opening kickoff, knowing what the inevitable is. Most fans, the ones that show up, will be gone before halftime anyhow.
 
Yinzer was started as a derogatory term for Steelers fans who value them above everything else. Much like any put down, it has now evolved beyond its original meaning to fit the individual user's definition not unlike the label snowflake.

It's a term used to call a Pittsburgher because they tend to use the word "yinz" instead of you all, or y'all, or you (plural). Typically, Steelers' fans use it a lot because of their limited intellect and lack of a usable vocabulary. The "Pittsburgh Dad" does a good job of making fun of them.
 
Obviously, the first amendment only applies in some circumstances, and employers are free to have their own restrictions. However, the NCAA has made it very clear that the players are not employees, so they are free to do as they choose.


I hope that saying that they are free to do as the choose was intentional hyperbole that you know isn't true, because no one at the stadium on Saturday is free to do whatever they want because of the First Amendment.
 
They should do whatever they want, its a free country with a first amendment freedom of expression.

Obviously, the first amendment only applies in some circumstances, and employers are free to have their own restrictions. However, the NCAA has made it very clear that the players are not employees, so they are free to do as they choose.

Yep. They can do whatever they want. I couldn't care less about this issue. If anything, its a reminder of how great this country is where athletes can peacefully express themselves without fear.
 
The entire situation reeks of hypocrisy. People are concerned about shows of patriotism, and rightfully so.

But meanwhile, members of the president’s cabinet are showing their brand of “patriotism” by misappropriating hundreds of thousands of dollars thru their repeated misuse of the nation’s aircraft.

But I guess that “Theft of Services of the US Government” doesn’t count when patriotism is being judged by the criterion of “who waves the flag with greater vigor....”
 
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Will be nice when this stuff is a non issue again. Sports are supposed to be about the sport. Thats it. Nothing else.
 
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Each young man or woman should do whatever he feels is in his heart concerning this issue. If a kid is not allowed to be politically & socially active in his college years when will they be.... So many of the Pitt players probably had very intimate experiences w/ aggressive police while growing up.
If people cannot see or imagine what must be the effects of seeing officer after officer be found not guilty from shooting death after shooting death of unarmed African/American men I do not know what to say. I mean we have recorded images showing these killings thru cell phones(the child from Cleveland playing in a park continues to disturb me thinking of it) & yet nothing ever seems be enough
And before anyone thinks I have some hard-on for the police officers please stop. No one disputes their courage & dedication but that does not mean that here are not some bad ones, poorly trained ones or frankly bigoted ones hiding behind that badge.

H2 PITT !!!
P.S. This has nothing to do w/ disrespecting our men & women serving in the military. It actually is a testament to what rights they are fighting to protect. Civil disobedience w/o violence.
 
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Each young man or woman should do whatever he feels is in his heart concerning this issue. If a kid is not allowed to be politically & socially active in his college years when will they be.... So many of the Pitt players probably had very intimate experiences w/ aggressive police while growing up.
If people cannot see or imagine what must be the effects of seeing officer after officer be found not guilty from shooting death after shooting death of unarmed African/American men I do not know what to say. I mean we have recorded images showing these killings thru cell phones(the child from Cleveland playing in a park continues to disturb me thinking of it) & yet nothing ever seems be enough
And before anyone thinks I have some hard-on for the police officers please stop. No one disputes their courage & dedication but that does not mean that here are not some bad ones, poorly trained ones or frankly bigoted ones hiding behind that badge.

H2 PITT !!!
P.S. This has nothing to do w/ disrespecting our men & women serving in the military. It actually is a testament to what rights they are fighting to protect. Civil disobedience w/o violence.
And not all them that were shot were unarmed and innocent. Some were and some werent. They were wrong on both sides.
 
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Will be nice when this stuff is a non issue again. Sports are supposed to be about the sport. Thats it. Nothing else.
That's quite possibly the dumbest argument that people use and you should feel dumb for using it. People say sports should be about sports when the things surrounding sports are confrontational to their own morality.

Joe Louis vs. Max Baer- just about sports

Jesse Owens at the Berlin Olympics - just sports

Miracle on Ice - just sports

Olympics in general - Totally just sports, no nationalism or anything...just sports

Jackie Robsinson breaking the color barrier - just sports

And while we're at it, stop playing the national anthem, it has nothing to do with "just sports." Get rid of that breast cancer awareness crap, that has nothing to do with sports. What's with the inspirational commercials aimed at children, get rid of those as well. Everyone knows parents don't enroll their kids in sports to teach them responsibility, the importance of teamwork, any other life lessons, it's just for exercise and sports.
 
The entire situation reeks of hypocrisy. People are concerned about shows of patriotism, and rightfully so.

But meanwhile, members of the president’s cabinet are showing their brand of “patriotism” by misappropriating hundreds of thousands of dollars thru their repeated misuse of the nation’s aircraft.

But I guess that “Theft of Services of the US Government” doesn’t count when patriotism is being judged by the criterion of “who waves the flag with greater vigor....”

you think we don't care? As long as Congress is controlled by this one particular party Trump is untouchable. If people come out to vote in 13 months and flip Congress then this guy can be dealt with.
 
sports is entertainment. Period. I would love to know how many of these "political protesters" have voted in every election (including local).

Sorry just watching this townhall on CNN and changing my joke thread to a serious thread
 
I hope that saying that they are free to do as the choose was intentional hyperbole that you know isn't true, because no one at the stadium on Saturday is free to do whatever they want because of the First Amendment.
In the 60s, a protester that burned the flag was arrested and the case went to the Supreme court. 2 conservative judges agreed with others that his 1st amendment rights gave him the freedom to do it. No punishment.
 
In the 60s, a protester that burned the flag was arrested and the case went to the Supreme court. 2 conservative judges agreed with others that his 1st amendment rights gave him the freedom to do it. No punishment.

That's right, but where did he do it? The First Amendment says the government can't limit your right to free speech. It absolutely does not say that Pitt or Heinz Field or a private employer cannot limit your speech. If someone runs out onto the field on Saturday and exercises their "First Amendment rights" to burn an American flag at the 50 yard line they can and will be arrested and if the case is pursued they will be found guilty.

The First Amendment does not give people the right to say whatever they want whenever they want to. You'd think by now people would understand that.
 
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That's right, but where did he do it? The First Amendment says the government can't limit your right to free speech. It absolutely does not say that Pitt or Heinz Field or a private employer cannot limit your speech. If someone runs out onto the field on Saturday and exercises their "First Amendment rights" to burn an American flag at the 50 yard line they can and will be arrested and if the case is pursued they will be found guilty.

The First Amendment does not give people the right to say whatever they want whenever they want to. You'd think by now people would understand that.

actually for the most part it does. You can't threaten anyone, but other than that you can say whatever you want and NOT get sent to jail. Being fired from your job or removed from the premises of a stadium are not shielded by first
 
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It should be. They wanna protest over something stupid then retire and do it the right way.

There's a right way to protest? Really? Is it... in a book somewhere? Or on a stone tablet? Was it in a chain email I accidentally deleted?
 
Maybe right way wasnt the proper term. The sensible way or politically correct way.
This way is not gonna accomplish anything.
 
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