Sleepers?

[steelhead52]

I feel the same about this recruiting class as most have expressed, but do have a question for those more in the know than I am.

My question is about Will Gipson from Quip. How can a player have around 1500 yds receiving and average around 30 yds a reception and have so few offers? This kind of reminds me of Journey Brown who went to PSU last year. Does this kid have a higher ceiling than would appear or is he a product of the spread system they use? Either way, those are some gaudy stats he put up this year.

 

[pittmeister]

Hard to say... yeah he looks the part, but time will tell. Nobody knows how good some of these players will turn out. The more highly ranked players you have (4 star recruits), the better.

Keep something in mind, you have professional pro scouts who evaluate players for a living.

The day of the draft the team makes their selection based on scouting reports.

There is no recruiting, or convincing, or sales pitch or wooing of any kind. If the team wants them, all they have to do is draft them and they’re yours.

When the first round comes and it’s their turn to draft, they can choose any available play they want in the entire nation........and they still can’t get it right.

 

[DiehardPanther]

I feel the same about this recruiting class as most have expressed, but do have a question for those more in the know than I am.

My question is about Will Gipson from Quip. How can a player have around 1500 yds receiving and average around 30 yds a reception and have so few offers? This kind of reminds me of Journey Brown who went to PSU last year. Does this kid have a higher ceiling than would appear or is he a product of the spread system they use? Either way, those are some gaudy stats he put up this year.

WG did not play WR full-time until this year. He was a QB. He has always been a good athlete, but people were unsure of what position he’d project to until he exploded this year.

 

[steelhead52]

I just can't get my head around 30 yds avg per each catch. That's longer than I could throw a bomb in High School.

 

[McKee Place]

I loved the guys enthusiasm and excitement when he got the offer, then took it and canceled other visits. I'll be rooting for him for that alone.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

I feel the same about this recruiting class as most have expressed, but do have a question for those more in the know than I am.

My question is about Will Gipson from Quip. How can a player have around 1500 yds receiving and average around 30 yds a reception and have so few offers? This kind of reminds me of Journey Brown who went to PSU last year. Does this kid have a higher ceiling than would appear or is he a product of the spread system they use? Either way, those are some gaudy stats he put up this year.

Keep in mind that he played in low division competition. When a kid gets those kinds of outrageous production numbers, the level of competition usually comes into question.

Now there have been plenty of players who didn’t face top notch high school competition, but they developed into very successful college (and even pro) players - and that’s where the talent of the evaluators comes into play.

 

[below0w]

I feel the same about this recruiting class as most have expressed, but do have a question for those more in the know than I am.

My question is about Will Gipson from Quip. How can a player have around 1500 yds receiving and average around 30 yds a reception and have so few offers? This kind of reminds me of Journey Brown who went to PSU last year. Does this kid have a higher ceiling than would appear or is he a product of the spread system they use? Either way, those are some gaudy stats he put up this year.

Sometimes guys fall through the cracks, other times scouts see a guy and don't think his ability matches his performance. The latter seems to have been the case with Michael Smith, the WR from Florida who put up gaudy stats but only had one other "decent" offer from GT, which is a good enough school but they don't throw the ball. Hopefully Gipson is an example of a prospect who just fell through the cracks, that'd be nice.

 

[Salempanther2015]

Keep in mind that he played in low division competition. When a kid gets those kinds of outrageous production numbers, the level of competition usually comes into question.

Now there have been plenty of players who didn’t face top notch high school competition, but they developed into very successful college (and even pro) players - and that’s where the talent of the evaluators comes into play.

Okay, so then we shouldn't get to excited about Kyi then either since he played at a small school.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Okay, so then we shouldn't get to excited about Kyi then either since he played at a small school.

Let me guess - didn’t read my entire post, did you?

 

[joeydavid]

He's a pretty easy one to explain, imo. His team didn't throw the ball prior to this year so there was no tape on him at WR. They changed the offense to fit the personnel and he became a star playing in it.

Pitt liked him off of his performance at their camp then he went out and confirmed what they saw on in actual games.

Had he been playing at Central Catholic or Pine Richland- people on this board would be complaining that PN lost another stud to Notre Dame.

I feel the same about this recruiting class as most have expressed, but do have a question for those more in the know than I am.

My question is about Will Gipson from Quip. How can a player have around 1500 yds receiving and average around 30 yds a reception and have so few offers? This kind of reminds me of Journey Brown who went to PSU last year. Does this kid have a higher ceiling than would appear or is he a product of the spread system they use? Either way, those are some gaudy stats he put up this year.

 

[pittdan77]

Had he been playing at Central Catholic or Pine Richland- people on this board would be complaining that PN lost another stud to Notre Dame.

Bigger schools might have found a way to use him at one position more and that might have helped. But I’m not certain that would suddenly make him a flight risk because he elevated that much. I’d also add that you have to recruit the better players in your backyard well enough to keep them home but that’s another story.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

 

[Salempanther2015]

Okay, so then we shouldn't get to excited about Kyi then either since he played at a small school.

I wasn't saying this as a negative to your comment, though it could have been taken that way I guess. I was merely stating the wait and see approach with Kyi also. Who is to say how good he will be playing against kids with his size and ability.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

I wasn't saying this as a negative to your comment, though it could have been taken that way I guess. I was merely stating the wait and see approach with Kyi also. Who is to say how good he will be playing against kids with his size and ability.

Okay, fair enough.

This is why some of these “small school players” attend a university’s camp: they’re given the opportunity to show their stuff against better players whom they’d never compete against in high school. But even then, some players still manage to get lost in the shuffle.

Back in the Majors-Sherill years, Pitt used to feast on players from the Deep South who got passed over the southern schools - many of those schools who liked their players the same way that they liked their bread: white. But Pitt’s coaches had contacts who connected them to those southern players who were practically unknown outside of their immediate area.

 

[jrnPitt]

I feel the same about this recruiting class as most have expressed, but do have a question for those more in the know than I am.

My question is about Will Gipson from Quip. How can a player have around 1500 yds receiving and average around 30 yds a reception and have so few offers? This kind of reminds me of Journey Brown who went to PSU last year. Does this kid have a higher ceiling than would appear or is he a product of the spread system they use? Either way, those are some gaudy stats he put up this year.

Yep, he had some great Senior stats. But he's not really the one I was hoping for Pitt to sign on Wednesday from his team. Devonshire is the prize on that squad.

 

[joeydavid]

If he's at a bigger school he likely ends up being recruited much like Steve Breaston was. Steve was Pitt lock until word got out in his Sr. season.

Bigger schools might have found a way to use him at one position more and that might have helped. But I’m not certain that would suddenly make him a flight risk because he elevated that much. I’d also add that you have to recruit the better players in your backyard well enough to keep them home but that’s another story.

 

[pittdan77]

If he's at a bigger school he likely ends up being recruited much like Steve Breaston was. Steve was Pitt lock until word got out in his Sr. season.

It’s reasonable to say that. You never know. I always believed that big school kids get a bump because the competition is better and usually there are real weight rooms.