So I was perusing the most active Miami message board....

[UPitt '89]

.... canesinsight.com

They are being very brutal with their administration. A sampling of threads:

1. There's one thread in which they are asking people to pitch in money to buy a banner to fly over Heinz field to get rid of their athletic director.

2. There's another thread full of people posting "let's go Pitt!" because they want to lose the rest of their games so that the admin is forced to buy out Manny Diaz.

3. There's another thread where they are betting the over/under for Pitt sacks in the game.... currently they're settling on about 7.5.

4. They also seem to think Kenny Pickett is the second-coming of Dan Marino.... I guess their memory of 2017 game is all they are thinking about.

5. Several threads where they talk about how Manny Diaz has pretty much given up on the season, with his "this is a rebuild" comment in his presser.

I've never seen a more pessimistic bunch of fans on a message board. And their board is 100 times more active than ours... there's about 15 posts a minute.

I haven't seen as much despair on the Rutgers board, to be honest.

 

[SisadaPITT]

There is another great Pitt board more active than this one, but they keep it on down low and take shots at posters and this baord often.

 

[UPitt '89]

There is another great Pitt board more active than this one, but they keep it on down low and take shots at posters and this baord often.

Yeah, I know... but this board is better.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

Did the fans really expect Manny Diaz to do great things as Head Coach when he was named?

He would have been in way over his head at Temple.

 

[miamicanes37]

Did the fans really expect Manny Diaz to do great things as Head Coach when he was named?

He would have been in way over his head at Temple.

Some did, but the grand majority of us criticized the Athletics Director for the hire, Mario Cristobal was supposed to be next in line, but they gave the job to Manny after 4 hrs of the Rich resignation, now we’re facing our worst nightmare..

 

[HailToPitt725]

I feel like they’re trying to concoct the ultimate reverse jinx On a serious note, it feels good to know that’s not us!

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

There is another great Pitt board more active than this one, but they keep it on down low and take shots at posters and this baord often.

Which one is that again? There was a post on another Pitt board if Sean Miller Fan was really (I forget who) but I forget which one.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Some did, but the grand majority of us criticized the Athletics Director for the hire, Mario Cristobal was supposed to be next in line, but they gave the job to Manny after 4 hrs of the Rich resignation, now we’re facing our worst nightmare..

Dude...to be honest, the LAST fanbase to feel sorry for you guys is us. We were YOU, the U, even before you became "the U". We were the baddest team in the last mid 70's into the early 80's. But our administration sacked us, and in some ways, gave us their own version of the death penalty in the early 90's.

We have been floundering since the 80's because of it.

 

[miamicanes37]

Dude...to be honest, the LAST fanbase to feel sorry for you guys is us. We were YOU, the U, even before you became "the U". We were the baddest team in the last mid 70's into the early 80's. But our administration sacked us, and in some ways, gave us their own version of the death penalty in the early 90's.

We have been floundering since the 80's because of it.

Yeah man is tough, to many years of inept coaching. Shannon 4 years, Golden 5 years, Rich 3 years and now this is going to last a least 3 years.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Yeah man is tough, to many years of inept coaching. Shannon 4 years, Golden 5 years, Rich 3 years and now this is going to last a least 3 years.

We have had similar coaching legacy. What is sad, I always bring up Cincinnati in comparison. They have had to make coaching changes every so many years, but it is because they have hired great coaches who go on to bigger roles. Pitt and Miami should consult with them first before hiring coaches.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Yeah man is tough, to many years of inept coaching. Shannon 4 years, Golden 5 years, Rich 3 years and now this is going to last a least 3 years.

Richt did a good job from any realistic modern comparison of Miami (it's not the 80s and conferences have flattened competition.) Quickly put together a solid recruiting class in very limited time, finally won a division title, and was 16-8 in conference -- compared to 17-18 for Golden and 16-16 for Shannon. Jimmy Johnson is not walking through that door and if you expect a coach to do better than winning twice as many ACC games as they lose, you're unrealistic.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Miami's problem is they still think of themselves as the Miami of old and think they are one good coaching hire away from those days, that it's bad luck keeping them from regrasping those dynasty days..

sooner they realize those days aren't coming back, the sooner they will be able to try and start over and try to get back to some sort of respectability.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Miami's problem is they still think of themselves as the Miami of old and think they are one good coaching hire away from those days, that it's bad luck keeping them from regrasping those dynasty days..

sooner they realize those days aren't coming back, the sooner they will be able to try and start over and try to get back to some sort of respectability.

Ahem....we have some people that think that about Pitt.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Ahem....we have some people that think that about Pitt.

ok and i think that's the case with most fan bases. i am sure some Nebraska fans still think they live in the Tom Osborne days but that's a lunatic fringe group. i think my example covers a very large majority of hurricane fans..

most pitt fans realize that the Sherrill and Majors days are long gone. Hell, im in my early 40's and i was too young to remember Jackie Sherrill.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Ahem....we have some people that think that about Pitt.

The difference is our clowns are not running the show.

 

[Pitt_Boss]

The difference is our clowns are not running the show.

No, but we had another special set of clowns running the show for many years...

 

[Nanty Glos Finest]

.... canesinsight.com

They are being very brutal with their administration. A sampling of threads:

1. There's one thread in which they are asking people to pitch in money to buy a banner to fly over Heinz field to get rid of their athletic director.

2. There's another thread full of people posting "let's go Pitt!" because they want to lose the rest of their games so that the admin is forced to buy out Manny Diaz.

3. There's another thread where they are betting the over/under for Pitt sacks in the game.... currently they're settling on about 7.5.

4. They also seem to think Kenny Pickett is the second-coming of Dan Marino.... I guess their memory of 2017 game is all they are thinking about.

5. Several threads where they talk about how Manny Diaz has pretty much given up on the season, with his "this is a rebuild" comment in his presser.

I've never seen a more pessimistic bunch of fans on a message board. And their board is 100 times more active than ours... there's about 15 posts a minute.

I haven't seen as much despair on the Rutgers board, to be honest.

On that Miami Cane site, any updates on injuries to QBs, RBs, LBs, and others?

Thanks in advance.

FTP
NGF

 

[Jakey_John]

There is another great Pitt board more active than this one, but they keep it on down low and take shots at posters and this baord often.

Damn cool kids

 

[miamicanes37]

Miami's problem is they still think of themselves as the Miami of old and think they are one good coaching hire away from those days, that it's bad luck keeping them from regrasping those dynasty days..

sooner they realize those days aren't coming back, the sooner they will be able to try and start over and try to get back to some sort of respectability.

South Florida kids still want to play for the home team, the problem is that they flipped their commitments at the last minute, because they don’t fully trust the coaching staff to develop them into future NFL stars and get paid in the league, that’s the bottom line, if Miami gets it right for once in the hiring of a coach, it won’t take to long for Miami to become relevant, for Pittsburgh is harder, because the level of talent around it’s not as good as in Florida..

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

South Florida kids still want to play for the home team, the problem is that they flipped their commitments at the last minute, because they don’t fully trust the coaching staff to develop them into future NFL stars and get paid in the league, that’s the bottom line, if Miami gets it right for once in the hiring of a coach, it won’t take to long for Miami to become relevant, for Pittsburgh is harder, because the level of talent around it’s not as good as in Florida..

well ok, i agree on paper and it worked before back in the 80s. keep kids in south florida and you'll be good. i mean i get it, it sounds easy enough and playing in the ACC coastal isn't exactly a huge challenge but how many years are we going to ask this before we realize, maybe there is more to it or maybe it's not as easy as it sounds..

we've been saying "if Miami can get out of their own way, they'll be a top 10 program" for years upon years now. A few quick glimpses but nothing consistent. how many more years are we all going to ask this question before we realize that maybe it's not going to happen, consistently at least. Maybe mediocrity with a brief glimpse of a fluke good year with 10+ wins is as good as it gets for the u.

Hey, im not knocking you, as a pitt fan, i'd love that occasional fluke year of 10+ wins..

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Miami fans think avg or even slighty above avg seasons are a fluke and greatness is the norm and it doesn't make sense. going back the last 10 seasons, they had a great year in '17 (10-2) and one season with 9 regular season wins ('13 i think) and every other year was 6-5 and 7-5 seasons. A few 8-4 wins in '16 and '15 which is respectable but far from great.

So with that said, maybe 7 win regular seasons aren't the fluke but 10 and 2 is the fluke. when something happens 80% of the time, and something else happens once out of 10 years, maybe that's the fluke and what happens 80% of the time is "the norm."

Again, im not here to knock down Miami cause at least they got that 10 win regular season this millennium. something we haven't done yet. just stating, the Dynasty U days are long gone..

 

[miamicanes37]

The problem is the administration incompetence to make a good hire, it’s not about the money anymore, Miami’s contract with Adidas has been very lucrative for the University, We had a great chance to made right and they failed miserably, most of the old school truthful Canes fans never bought into the Many hype, major changes will be made, the new school President is a true football fan and years away from Donna, the next hire will be a big time hire, Or a least that’s what we truly hope.

 

[Panther Holla]

Miami's problem is they still think of themselves as the Miami of old and think they are one good coaching hire away from those days, that it's bad luck keeping them from regrasping those dynasty days..

sooner they realize those days aren't coming back, the sooner they will be able to try and start over and try to get back to some sort of respectability.

The rise of programs like UCF and South Florida and the move of the FAUs and FIUs to D-I level has to have cut into Miami of Florida's recruiting. Why sit on the bench in Coral Gables if you can get on the field for one of these other schools AND stay in state? UCF has somewhat of the "cachet" that Miami had when it was on its way up. South Florida kinda swung and missed. Miami can be very good again, but like Pitt, probably not consistently outstanding unless a lot of stars line up for them.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

The rise of programs like UCF and South Florida and the move of the FAUs and FIUs to D-I level has to have cut into Miami of Florida's recruiting. Why sit on the bench in Coral Gables if you can get on the field for one of these other schools AND stay in state? UCF has somewhat of the "cachet" that Miami had when it was on its way up. South Florida kinda swung and missed. Miami can be very good again, but like Pitt, probably not consistently outstanding unless a lot of stars line up for them.

truth be told, i crave the day when the Coastal can have a perennial power. of course i want it to be pitt but realistically, i thought Miami could be that program. that's what kind of annoys me a bit with them and their consistent inability to get there.

as a member of the coastal, i hate it's perception nationally as the weakest division in P5. i'd LOVE to see us ranked of course with another team that is annual top 10 like program. i know we'll never get a team like Clemson but someone always in top 10 or top 15, that "team to beat". Va tech is hell and gone from that, Duke is duke. Virginia is good this year but the second they show anything, their coach will be poached and they'll start over. Maybe UNC with BRown can be that program, time will tell.

But i actually kind of like Miami or at the very least, would like to see them be that top 10 program so the coastal can get some national love..

 

[pittmeister]

.... canesinsight.com

They are being very brutal with their administration. A sampling of threads:

1. There's one thread in which they are asking people to pitch in money to buy a banner to fly over Heinz field to get rid of their athletic director.

2. There's another thread full of people posting "let's go Pitt!" because they want to lose the rest of their games so that the admin is forced to buy out Manny Diaz.

3. There's another thread where they are betting the over/under for Pitt sacks in the game.... currently they're settling on about 7.5.

4. They also seem to think Kenny Pickett is the second-coming of Dan Marino.... I guess their memory of 2017 game is all they are thinking about.

5. Several threads where they talk about how Manny Diaz has pretty much given up on the season, with his "this is a rebuild" comment in his presser.

I've never seen a more pessimistic bunch of fans on a message board. And their board is 100 times more active than ours... there's about 15 posts a minute.

I haven't seen as much despair on the Rutgers board, to be honest.

“I haven't seen as much despair on the Rutgers board, to be honest.”

That’s because they’re too delusional to realize how bad things are...

 

[Panther Holla]

Miami-Pitt would make for a nice intersectional, inter-divisional rivalry. Two of the "city schools", neither southern in the Confederate sense. Heck Pitt might be more "suthuhn" than MofF. Blue Collar vs. Bling Chains. You can't force a rivalry, but it has potential. Heck Miami doesn't have a true rival within the Coastal any more than Pitt does.

 

[H2P 2003]

Yeah, I know... but this board is better.

which board is that?

 

[pittdan77]

“I haven't seen as much despair on the Rutgers board, to be honest.”

That’s because they’re too delusional to realize how bad things are...

Well, that's because Miami has expectations. Rutgers fans have no idea what a winning program is like.

 

[pittmeister]

Well, that's because Miami has expectations. Rutgers fans have no idea what a winning program is like.

rutgersal does....

 

[ThePanthers]

Miami fans think avg or even slighty above avg seasons are a fluke and greatness is the norm and it doesn't make sense. going back the last 10 seasons, they had a great year in '17 (10-2) and one season with 9 regular season wins ('13 i think) and every other year was 6-5 and 7-5 seasons. A few 8-4 wins in '16 and '15 which is respectable but far from great.

So with that said, maybe 7 win regular seasons aren't the fluke but 10 and 2 is the fluke. when something happens 80% of the time, and something else happens once out of 10 years, maybe that's the fluke and what happens 80% of the time is "the norm."

Again, im not here to knock down Miami cause at least they got that 10 win regular season this millennium. something we haven't done yet. just stating, the Dynasty U days are long gone..

We had a 10 win season in 2009

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

South Florida kids still want to play for the home team, the problem is that they flipped their commitments at the last minute, because they don’t fully trust the coaching staff to develop them into future NFL stars and get paid in the league, that’s the bottom line, if Miami gets it right for once in the hiring of a coach, it won’t take to long for Miami to become relevant, for Pittsburgh is harder, because the level of talent around it’s not as good as in Florida..

I think as cities and these urban areas continue to decay and be host to drugs, crime and violence, families and the kids themselves want to get away from the influences. We have seen this locally with some kids.

 

[wbrpanther]

Some did, but the grand majority of us criticized the Athletics Director for the hire, Mario Cristobal was supposed to be next in line, but they gave the job to Manny after 4 hrs of the Rich resignation, now we’re facing our worst nightmare..

Kind of like our AD Ed Bozik firing Mike Gottfried and after a "nationwide search" that never left the locker room, hiring OC Paul Hackett. The very man that stabbed Gottfried in the back to get him gone.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

We had a 10 win season in 2009

bowl games don't count. i was referring to a 10 game regular season. something that hasn't been done since the marino days..

 

[Panther Holla]

I think I can understand the expectations and frustrations of "U" fans.

Pitt's most recent golden era spanned 11 seasons (1973-83). How many decades of mediocrity did we have to endure while we still held "the bar" close to those three 11-1 seasons under Sherrill? It took a long time for us old timers to sober up to Pitt's reality.

Miami, from 1980 through 2003 -- almost a quarter century of football -- compiled a 236-28 record with 5 national titles. Their run was more than double of Pitt's and unquestionably more successful. Their fall to mediocrity had to be every bit as painful, relatively speaking, even if the Hurricanes never descended to the level of suckage that Pitt did under Hackett or Majors II. If U fans aren't "over it", can you blame them?

 

[RoguePanther]

.... canesinsight.com

They are being very brutal with their administration. A sampling of threads:

1. There's one thread in which they are asking people to pitch in money to buy a banner to fly over Heinz field to get rid of their athletic director.



I haven't seen as much despair on the Rutgers board, to be honest.

Duzz should donate to the cause to make it happen.

 

[Las Panteras]

Vinny testeverde
Jim Kelly
Geoff Toretta
Steve Walsh
Bernie Kosar

its no coincidence that the years these guys played for the U (1980-1992, they were terrific.

Great local recruiting base or not, it is only when the U brings in the next great QB will they move from 7-8 wins each year.

 

[79panther]

I just hope we are preparing like Alabama is coming and ignoring all this .

 

[miamicanes37]

I think as cities and these urban areas continue to decay and be host to drugs, crime and violence, families and the kids themselves want to get away from the influences. We have seen this locally with some kids.

Miami is a lot safer now than back in the 80s and 90s, it’s not about that.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Miami still seems to get a good percentage of the top city recruits. But yeah you need better quarterbacks and the jump from a top 15 class to a top 5 one will be recruiting the 100 miles north better like Butch did.

 

[Panthertag]

Well, that's because Miami has expectations. Rutgers fans have no idea what a winning program is like.

Winning is losing to Cincinnati by 20 in your best season ever.