Southern Methodist

[Sean Miller Fan]

Most of us dont know much about SMU other than the Pony Express and the Death Penalty.

Couple interesting notes I've learned

- Some call it "Southern Millionaires University"

- It is not technically in Dallas. The university is in University Park, which is bordered on 3 sides by Dallas and the other side by Highland Park. University Park and Highland Park are 2 extremely affluent communties which is why SMU reminds me a lot of Villanova in many ways.

- In 2019, they disassociated with the United Methodist Church and are wholly owned by their own Board of Trustees. It doesn't even appear that its a religious school at all anymore.

 

[Dointhatrag]

they have disassociated themselves with UMC as many Methodist churches have recently in light of the recent acceptance of more liberal policies by the UMC. SMU is still religious but went with the more conservative movement.

• Background
  The UMC has faced conflict over potentially allowing ordained homosexuals and same-sex marriages in the church.
  
  
  
• Departures
  Since 2019, more than 7,000 congregations have received approval to leave the UMC, which is about a quarter of all Methodist churches in the U.S. Many of these congregations are joining the Global Methodist Church, a denomination created by conservatives who broke from the UMC. Others are going independent or joining different denominations.

 

[cashisking884]

SMU is technically in Dallas. Dallas is both the city and county.
There are those random little towns within not just the county of Dallas, but the city of it.
I use to live in Addison when I first got here. It’s in Dallas County. If you took one step in either direction while in Addison, you were back in the city of Dallas.

That’s how the area around SMU is. You’d never know you weren’t in the city anymore unless someone told you. And it’s only about 2 to 3 miles big.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Most of us dont know much about SMU other than the Pony Express and the Death Penalty.

Couple interesting notes I've learned

- Some call it "Southern Millionaires University"

- It is not technically in Dallas. The university is in University Park, which is bordered on 3 sides by Dallas and the other side by Highland Park. University Park and Highland Park are 2 extremely affluent communties which is why SMU reminds me a lot of Villanova in many ways.

- In 2019, they disassociated with the United Methodist Church and are wholly owned by their own Board of Trustees. It doesn't even appear that its a religious school at all anymore.

Sounds like a nice place. Beats Trinity, huh?

 

[TD_6082]

SMU is technically in Dallas. Dallas is both the city and county.
There are those random little towns within not just the county of Dallas, but the city of it.
I use to live in Addison when I first got here. It’s in Dallas County. If you took one step in either direction while in Addison, you were back in the city of Dallas.

That’s how the area around SMU is. You’d never know you weren’t in the city anymore unless someone told you. And it’s only about 2 to 3 miles big.

University Park in incredible. The number of luxury homes in that area is just unreal. I'm guessing that most of them start at around $2 to $3 mil minimum.

Been there a number of times. I remember driving around University Park listening to the Joe Flacco Mike High Miracle game with my 1 year old while wifey was playing down the street in the Steinway Hall. Made it back to the hotel to see Justin Tucker end it in the 2nd OT.

 

[303vND]

Most of us dont know much about SMU other than the Pony Express and the Death Penalty.

Couple interesting notes I've learned

- Some call it "Southern Millionaires University"

- It is not technically in Dallas. The university is in University Park, which is bordered on 3 sides by Dallas and the other side by Highland Park. University Park and Highland Park are 2 extremely affluent communties which is why SMU reminds me a lot of Villanova in many ways.

- In 2019, they disassociated with the United Methodist Church and are wholly owned by their own Board of Trustees. It doesn't even appear that its a religious school at all anymore.

It's absolutely in Dallas. There are quirky zoning laws here in the state of Texas - for instance, there is the City of Bellaire that sits in the heart of Houston.

 

[Upg bobcat]

- In 2019, they disassociated with the United Methodist Church and are wholly owned by their own Board of Trustees. It doesn't even appear that its a religious school at all anymore.

This got me looking it up, and it appears fellow ACC members Syracuse and Duke are (or at least were) affiliated with United Methodists. I did not know that.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

they have disassociated themselves with UMC as many Methodist churches have recently in light of the recent acceptance of more liberal policies by the UMC. SMU is still religious but went with the more conservative movement.

• Background
  The UMC has faced conflict over potentially allowing ordained homosexuals and same-sex marriages in the church.
  
  
  
• Departures
  Since 2019, more than 7,000 congregations have received approval to leave the UMC, which is about a quarter of all Methodist churches in the U.S. Many of these congregations are joining the Global Methodist Church, a denomination created by conservatives who broke from the UMC. Others are going independent or joining different denominations.

The exact opposite actually. They are leaving because they dont agree on the UMC's ban on "certain things."

I didnt realize this is still ongoing as it heada to the Texas Supreme Court. SMU wants to be done with the UMC and be totally independent. The UMC says "nope, cant do that."

Texas Supreme Court will hear case on SMU break with United Methodist Church

The Texas Supreme Court set oral arguments in the case of SMU and the United Methodist Church's South Central Jurisdictional Conference for January 2025.

www.wfaa.com

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

SMU is technically in Dallas. Dallas is both the city and county.
There are those random little towns within not just the county of Dallas, but the city of it.
I use to live in Addison when I first got here. It’s in Dallas County. If you took one step in either direction while in Addison, you were back in the city of Dallas.

That’s how the area around SMU is. You’d never know you weren’t in the city anymore unless someone told you. And it’s only about 2 to 3 miles big.

I know there's some odd rules and boundaries but really it comes down to who you pay taxes to. Does Highland Park and University Park have their own governments, public schools, police forces, etc? Or are they just Dallas neighborhoods as Shadyside is to Pittsburgh.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Sounds like a nice place. Beats Trinity, huh?

Trinity may have nicer football facilities though. My God, what a waste. I still cant get over that. What's next? McGuffey to build a 10K seat basketball arena? Chartiers-Houston to build a retractable dome? That seems just as likely as an indoor football facility for one of the worst programs in the WPIAL historically in an area where a large number of people live in poverty.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Trinity may have nicer football facilities though. My God, what a waste. I still cant get over that. What's next? McGuffey to build a 10K seat basketball arena? Chartiers-Houston to build a retractable dome? That seems just as likely as an indoor football facility for one of the worst programs in the WPIAL historically in an area where a large number of people live in poverty.

McGuffey will spend it on a state of the art mat room.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

McGuffey will spend it on a state of the art mat room.

They are good at wrestling so that would make sense. Trinity spending millions on a sport they suck at makes no sense.