Two time Super Bowl Champ, 3 time AFC Champ, Only QB with multiple 500 yard passing games, only QB with 6 TD passes in consecutive game , HALL OF FAME LOCK!
Steelers have way too many holes
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Right, and they got zero because they ended up missing the FG. a TD or FG there and it's 27-19 or 27-23, the Pats didn't exactly blow them out, Ben in the game and it's a different game.
NFL season is long. We are at 4-3 with a bye week and in 1st place in our division. We do have many key players hurt now but this season has a ways to go to pan out.
All ancient history .He's an over rated drama queen who's been average for 5 years. Right now he's very mediocre. Have a sammich.
And yes, I get it, some people are pusssies who hate Ben just because some gold digging slut accused him of something she couldn't prove! LOL!
There's a lot more reasons than that to hate him. He's treated people like garbage all over the place. I don't know if he grew up or not but he was a grade a JAGOFF for a long period of time.
However, on the field, he's one helluva player.
I am wondering when, if ever is Tomlin going to be held accountable.
This guy walked into a situation with one of about 6 or 7 franchise QB's at the helm.
If not for the knuckle head from Cincy. The Steelers will be 5 years removed from winning a playoff game.
This guy walked into a situation with one of about 6 or 7 franchise QB's at the helm.
If not for the knuckle head from Cincy. The Steelers will be 5 years removed from winning a playoff game.
NEVER, because the Rooneys have this somewhat deranged theory that you never fire a coach no matter what.
I agree they were handi capped against New England. What about Philly and Miami?
2 games where once again Tomlin didn't have his team ready to play. Every year there are 2 or 3 head scratching losses that falls squarely on the coaches lap
Saints only made it to one Super Bowl and have been mostly abysmal in the last 10 years. Their defense has been unwatchable since Bountygate.
Packers same thing. I would argue that both Brees and Rodgers are better than Ben and yet you don't hear nearly as much criticism of those teams or their coaches.
The Steelers have not been a complete team in about 7 years. They've had phases where they had no OL, no DL, no LB, no secondary, or some combination thereof. They've also been decimated by injuries the past several years. There isn't a team out there that would have done better than the Steelers given the loss of their QB, LT, RB, WRs2-4, TE, RG, DE, MLB, OLB, S, slot corner, etc, most of which happened at the same time. The Steelers have literally lost at least 3 of their 4 best players on offense and 2 of their 3 best players on defense multiple years in a row.
I'd love to see how great the Packers were without Rodgers, Nelson, Brian Bulaga, Clay Mathews, and Dix all at the same time. Or the Cardinals without Palmer, David Johnson, Fitzgerald, Peterson, and Campbell all at the same time. I mean, it's just outrageous that people think the Steelers should be thriving despite that attrition. So much of this game is who is healthy and who isn't, and for whatever reason the Steelers have been terribly unlucky in the last few years (the suspensions are self-inflicted and haven't helped) and have taken some cheap shots from Burfict, who IMO is a felon and should be behind bars. Tom Brady wouldn't be healthy if he had to take cheap shots from that animal twice a year either.
Ben is a notch below Brady and Rodgers but he's still a first ballot Hall of Famer. When he's on he is an absolute maestro and he tears teams apart for 350 and 5 TDs. When he's off, he's still a top 10 QB. Ya'll are smoking something if you think he's overrated.
Average for 5 years... Tied for the league lead in passing yards in 2014 despite 50 less attempts than Brees. Led the league in yards per game last season and would've thrown for over 5000 had he not gotten hurt. I think we'd all agree he could be better so far this season and yet.. second in td passes this year, again, despite 50 less attempts than Brees and an offense missing key players at different points throughout the first seven games.
Don't let stats get in your way though.
Right, I don't understand people saying he was decent. There were 3-4 under thrown balls that hit the hands of the corners...could have easily been picks. Landry is lucky they weren't as it would have turned into a blowout real quick. He showed some nice touch on a few deep balls but he is woefully lacking for someone who has been in the system for four years now.
Brady OK, but why Rodgers? What has Rodgers done that puts him ahead? Career stats are comparable and Ben has been to 3 SBs vs. Rodgers just one.
Exactly. Ben's advanced metrics are near the top of the NFL. He throws it further down field than other QBs and doesn't survive on YAC to get to 300 yards per game. He's absolutely elite, definitely top 5 QB in the NFL hands down, probably top 1 or 2 on his peak day.
I agree. Rodgers had that 1 season a cpl years ago where he was just absolutely insanely great but otherwise I don't think he's any better.
Rodgers has a much better TD:Int ratio. 3.91 vs 1.88. He doesn't put his team in as many bad situations as Ben does. On an off day, Ben is just less careful with the football.
I also think Ben has a better offense as a whole than Rodgers. Better talent at WR, OL, and definitely at RB.
Huh? I never said Ben was over rated.
He is definitely in the top 5 or 6 QB's in the league. Which makes the fact we haven't won a playoff game in the last 5 or 6 years. Except for last years gift from Cincy. Very concerning.
As far as comparing the Saints organization to the Steelers. That's comical.
So compare him to the other top 5 or 6 QBs in the league and their success. Brady is clearly superior. Brees and Rodgers on a team level have done worse. Cam Newton has done worse. Luck has done way worse despite facing defenses which are made out of paper and playing indoors. Rivers and Manning are so far behind Ben it's ridiculous. I mean, at least be fair to the guy. Which one of those guys besides Brady would have done any better?
The AFC North has been the best division in the NFL in the last 5 or 6 years. We don't have a clear path to 12 wins and a bye every single year like the Patriots and Colts. I admit that the team craps the bed once a year against a terrible team but I don't know whose fault that is. Regardless, as I mentioned, we've faced far more adversity than a most teams in getting to the playoffs.
Just go watch the Eagles and Dolphins game tapes and about a half dozen games the last several years when he stunk. Overall stats don't tell the story on this inconsistent mediocre injury prone drama queen.
Been years since fathead has done anything when it counts.... in the playoffs. His gaudy stats in3-5 games per year can't mask that at crunch time in the recent past he's stunk. He plays at least 5 games per year now where he looks like a rookie- just watch the Eagles and Dolphins game tapes. He's played one above average game so far this year. Fathead... the man , the yinzer legend.
I'd rather throw more picks and go to two more Super Bowls over time, If Ben didn't make the risky throws, he might have 50 less INTS, but also 50 less TDs.
Oh God, come on @crosbymalkin8771, don't egg him on.. Just ignore del when it comes to pirates and Ben, it's the best for everyone involved..
I figure you're one of those insanely jealous Pitt Fan/Steeler Haters, but if you're a Steelers fan, are you really hoping to get rid of Ben? Last week's game will be EVERY WEEK'S game for years, because the dumb ass Rooneys will be PATIENT and not trade a whole draft to GAMBLE on a #1 QB pick, to try to get a franchise QB right away, so enjoy the real crap you'll get when FAT HEAD is gone.
Well the truth is that QBing as a whole in the NFL has gone in the toilet which is why you have so many poor matchups and why tv ratings stink. Right now you have one super QB, Brady, a truckload of mediocre QBs, including fathead Ben, and a bunch of stiffs. Once upon a time guys like Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Luck, Phillip Rivers were all more consistent and better than Fathead but those on the forgoing list who are still playing are getting long in the tooth and are as mediocre as Fathead. Calling Fathead "one of the better QBs in the league today" means nothing. He's a brittle, scatter armed QB who the more the Steelers revolve their offense around him, the more he screws up. He's been garbage in the redzone for half a decade. HOF QB, what a bad joke . I'd take Carson Wenz over Fathead in a heartbeat!
But those 4 combined to win 3 Super Bowls between them and Fathead won 2 himself.
I am a Steelers fan who's had enough of fathead. He's way past his prime and was NEVER as good as the press in Pittsburgh has suggested he is. He's played in 3 Super Bowls- he was instrumental in winning one, was a nonfactor in a second and was instrumental in the Steelers losing the third. He plays AT LEAST 3-5 games per year where he's just horrible, another 3-5 in which he acts as a game manager and the Steelers struggle to score, and his fan club ignores those performance because of gaudy stats in 3-5 games. That's not the consistency level you get from players of the level of Tom Brady. Just call Fathead what he is: average.
So what- Trent Dilfer and a couple of other QB stiffs won Super Bowls because they played on teams that were very strong and compensated for the lack of a great QB- that's the real story of the Fathead Ben era. The SB wins don't define him as QB which is what his fan club blindly argues.
Haha, figured that was the case... look what I started now. Some of you guys are ridiculous
OK fine, the teams that are 11-5 or 10-6 with Ben, will soon be 5-11 or 6-10 every year, I hope you enjoy your fathead-free diet then.
And those Super Bowl wins would have never happened had he not been drafted, their last appearance would at this point be vs. Dallas in 1996, had they drafted someone else #1 in 2003.
I guess you need a few years of living like 75% of the NFL teams watching your team having a stiff at that position for a few years before you realize how good you've had it.
Two biggest frauds who ever lived: Nutsack and Fathead Ben. Keep wishin and hopin... and by the way I am right about both.
