Temple Stadium Blow Back

[upj87]

Appears everybody is not on board...

http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/...asting-temple-stadium-plan?linktype=hp_impact


" It's just the continuation of 'Temple Town,'" said Ray, saying it's the latest affront in a decades-long struggle between the community and the university's encroaching development. "

Just my opinion but more 'Temple Town' less 'Philly Town' seems like a fantastic trade off...

 

[QuitCallingMeWanny]

F'in Rooneys ruining everything

 

[Swervin27]

cant say I blame the local residents too much.. I love college football, always jump in on the on campus stadium threads but if I lived in a city, I sure as hell wouldn't want a stadium being built next to my home..

 

[upj87]

cant say I blame the local residents too much.. I love college football, always jump in on the on campus stadium threads but if I lived in a city, I sure as hell wouldn't want a stadium being built next to my home..

as opposed to a vacant lot? Seems to me that a facility like this being used 7-8 times a year would not be that big of an inconvenience....I'm pretty sure the property values in this area will not decrease....

 

[Swervin27]

as opposed to a vacant lot? Seems to me that a facility like this being used 7-8 times a year would not be that big of an inconvenience....I'm pretty sure the property values in this area will not decrease....

I strongly disagree.. Property value is debatable. I've seen data to prove and disprove this. dallas it dropped, DC / MD with redskins, it helped.. Im looking more at the people that live there. If it's ghetto then yes because overall a new venue will bring in restaurants, bars, and increase value but that doesn't mean I want it across from my house.. It's like the north shore, overall it has helped but if you had a house across street, used to a nice quiet environment, you want 20 chain restaurants across from you? Not to mention tailgaters and 30k cars every weekend? no thanks.

 

[bwh05]

So according to a protester a new stadium is going to bring crime to the neighborhood? I've hung out at Temple a few times and believe me, the crime is already there.

 

[upj87]

I strongly disagree.. Property value is debatable. I've seen data to prove and disprove this. dallas it dropped, DC / MD with redskins, it helped.. Im looking more at the people that live there. If it's ghetto then yes because overall a new venue will bring in restaurants, bars, and increase value but that doesn't mean I want it across from my house.. It's like the north shore, overall it has helped but if you had a house across street, used to a nice quiet environment, you want 20 chain restaurants across from you? Not to mention tailgaters and 30k cars every weekend? no thanks.

"Not to mention tailgaters and 30k cars every weekend"....like I said, 7-8 Saturdays a year. Chain restaurant vs empty lot...I'll take the Appleby's...

If the put a decent brick façade on a small 35K facility and put nice architectural details into it, it would be a great addition to any neighborhood...

 

[HailtoPitt]

Been waiting for the Philly version of Jim Ferlo to pop up and try to put the kibosh on this because a few local residents disagree.

 

[lilspainishflea]

I strongly disagree.. Property value is debatable. I've seen data to prove and disprove this. dallas it dropped, DC / MD with redskins, it helped.. Im looking more at the people that live there. If it's ghetto then yes because overall a new venue will bring in restaurants, bars, and increase value but that doesn't mean I want it across from my house.. It's like the north shore, overall it has helped but if you had a house across street, used to a nice quiet environment, you want 20 chain restaurants across from you? Not to mention tailgaters and 30k cars every weekend? no thanks.

Temple is building an on-campus stadium. In other words, they already own the land and no local residents are being displaced. The impact of a stadium being constructed at Broad and Cecil B. Moore will be absolutely negligible for anyone that is not a Temple student. This protest was a silly Black Lives Matter thing that illogically rolled the Temple stadium into the cause. But Temple's new stadium, simply put, doesn't qualify as gentrification because no one is being displaced...

 

[Swervin27]

Temple is building an on-campus stadium. In other words, they already own the land and no local residents are being displaced. The impact of a stadium being constructed at Broad and Cecil B. Moore will be absolutely negligible for anyone that is not a Temple student. This protest was a silly Black Lives Matter thing that illogically rolled the Temple stadium into the cause. But Temple's new stadium, simply put, doesn't qualify as gentrification because no one is being displaced...

ok, well then what the heck are these people complaining about. idiots, off with their heads..

 

[Swervin27]

"Not to mention tailgaters and 30k cars every weekend"....like I said, 7-8 Saturdays a year. Chain restaurant vs empty lot...I'll take the Appleby's...

If the put a decent brick façade on a small 35K facility and put nice architectural details into it, it would be a great addition to any neighborhood...

well we will agree to disagree.. Having something like this across the street from my house would irritate me.. definitely something that is needed, just don't put it on my street. Kind of like strip clubs..

 

[Franb]

"Not to mention tailgaters and 30k cars every weekend"....like I said, 7-8 Saturdays a year. Chain restaurant vs empty lot...I'll take the Appleby's...

If the put a decent brick façade on a small 35K facility and put nice architectural details into it, it would be a great addition to any neighborhood...

I don't know anything about this neighborhood, but do you think that anyone is going to invest in a business that will serve customers 7-8 times a year? If customers are not there now, a stadium that gets used for football games is not going to bring them at any time that a game is not being played.

 

[lilspainishflea]

I don't know anything about this neighborhood, but do you think that anyone is going to invest in a business that will serve customers 7-8 times a year? If customers are not there now, a stadium that gets used for football games is not going to bring them at any time that a game is not being played.

Yes, because even when the stadium isn't being used, it's still on Temple's campus. Students and citizens would definitely use a bar or restaurant that's literally on the campus.

 

[lilspainishflea]

ok, well then what the heck are these people complaining about. idiots, off with their heads..

Exactly. They're protesting the development of private land with private funds...and it's development that isn't displacing a single person. It's just some disassociative thinking from BLM.

 

[upj87]

Temple is building an on-campus stadium. In other words, they already own the land and no local residents are being displaced. The impact of a stadium being constructed at Broad and Cecil B. Moore will be absolutely negligible for anyone that is not a Temple student. This protest was a silly Black Lives Matter thing that illogically rolled the Temple stadium into the cause. But Temple's new stadium, simply put, doesn't qualify as gentrification because no one is being displaced...

Shi Tpa Town ... before ya know it they will have a Whole Foods up in there....

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Is Philadelphia diverse?

 

[JED_72]

Temple is building an on-campus stadium. In other words, they already own the land and no local residents are being displaced. The impact of a stadium being constructed at Broad and Cecil B. Moore will be absolutely negligible for anyone that is not a Temple student. This protest was a silly Black Lives Matter thing that illogically rolled the Temple stadium into the cause. But Temple's new stadium, simply put, doesn't qualify as gentrification because no one is being displaced...

The proposed stadium is NOT going to be built at Broad & Cecil B. Moore. That intersection has been completely redeveloped on all four corners.
The stadium site is immediately north of McGonigle Hall and extending north along the west side of Broad St. to Norris St. and then two blocks west to 16th St. Temple owns and uses the land now.

This is not a "vacant lot". An apartment complex on part of the site will be torn down. An existing indoor practice facility will have to be moved to TU's current FB practice facility at 11th and Diamond St. There is a full size 400 meter track, tennis courts, open space/recreation space/practice areas etc on the tract.The entire area is in use and developed.
Norris Street and Diamond Sts are residential streets. Temple dorms and other buildings are located across Broad St and north of Norris St. from the stadium site. Since TU's campus is compact and many students live on/near campus they likely would support some additional sandwich shops, restaurants, fast food and convenience stores. They could supplement the famous food trucks found around campus.
The area is today very congested and parking is very difficult particularly when there are sell-out events at the Liacouras Center (seats 10K).
Public transit via bus and subway is good and there is a regional rail stop just beyond the east side of the Temple Campus.
I am indifferent whether or not TU should build a stadium but based on years of visits to the TU campus . . . i hope they can do better than what plans look like now. Its hard to believe this is going to come in at $135 million and be a great facility . . . The location is good if you anticipate most attendees will be resident undergraduates and people who travel by public transit.

 

[Pitt79]

cant say I blame the local residents too much.. I love college football, always jump in on the on campus stadium threads but if I lived in a city, I sure as hell wouldn't want a stadium being built next to my home..

To be honest, I think I'd LIKE a stadium being built next to my home. There's only 6-7 home games per year. I hate driving and parking, so walking across the street to a game after tailgating in my back yard would be appealing to me. Never have to limit pre or post game drinking and never get caught in traffic.

 

[Swervin27]

To be honest, I think I'd LIKE a stadium being built next to my home. There's only 6-7 home games per year. I hate driving and parking, so walking across the street to a game after tailgating in my back yard would be appealing to me. Never have to limit pre or post game drinking and never get caught in traffic.

lol, fine way to look at it I guess.. how would you feel about others leaving a game but urinating in your backyard after drinking all game? empty beer cans in your yard? having to keep your blinds closed because the lights are on (they just don't turn lights on for games), construction work all right across the street from you? Doesn't sound all that great.. My strip club analogy works, great to have just don't want it in my neighborhood..

 

[Saboteur]

Appears everybody is not on board...

http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/...asting-temple-stadium-plan?linktype=hp_impact


" It's just the continuation of 'Temple Town,'" said Ray, saying it's the latest affront in a decades-long struggle between the community and the university's encroaching development. "

Just my opinion but more 'Temple Town' less 'Philly Town' seems like a fantastic trade off...

That section of Philadelphia is rough...and then some. Took the old R7 through there and did some work on some train stations...drug dealers are afraid there.