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The coaching hire is looking like a mistake.

I’m decidedly not a fan of the Miller family, but Indiana is a tough, tough gig. Similar to PSU football, you have fans who are living in the glory days when the landscape is 180 degrees different from the period where they were a dominant program. Painter down the road is doing exactly what Indiana needs to be doing, recruiting solid 4/3 star kids who are near locks to stick around for 4 years and building a culture/identity rather than chasing the odd 5 star every year or two to appease the rabid fan base while ignoring any hint of a program identity.

Ill be interested to see who they target when they inevitably show Archie the door after this year. It’s still a destination job, but it’s definitely not an easy one
 
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I’m decidedly not a fan of the Miller family, but Indiana is a tough, tough gig. Similar to PSU football, you have fans who are living in the glory days when the landscape is 180 degrees different from the period where they were a dominant program. Painter down the road is doing exactly what Indiana needs to be doing, recruiting solid 4/3 star kids who are near locks to stick around for 4 years and building a culture/identity rather than chasing the odd 5 star every year or two to appease the rabid fan base while ignoring any hint of a program identity.

Ill be interested to see who they target when they inevitably show Archie the door after this year. It’s still a destination job, but it’s definitely not an easy one
That's a rather logical take.
 
Archie Miller?

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I see two things going on here.

1) Primarily, Indiana is just not what it used to be. Reminds me of Tennessee football. They are living in the old days. Two programs that think they are still royalty, but at some point you have to wake up and see reality. It's been a long time since Bob Knight and Phil Fulmer were coaching those teams.

2) I'm always skeptical of hiring a mid-major/G5 coach who took over a program that was already good. Dayton was successful before and after Archie Miller. Is he really that good of a coach? I feel the same way about the guy Tennessee just hired in football. Josh Heupel took over a very strong UCF program and won a decent amount of games, but if anything they got worse during his time there.
 
I see two things going on here.

1) Primarily, Indiana is just not what it used to be. Reminds me of Tennessee football. They are living in the old days. Two programs that think they are still royalty, but at some point you have to wake up and see reality. It's been a long time since Bob Knight and Phil Fulmer were coaching those teams.

2) I'm always skeptical of hiring a mid-major/G5 coach who took over a program that was already good. Dayton was successful before and after Archie Miller. Is he really that good of a coach? I feel the same way about the guy Tennessee just hired in football. Josh Heupel took over a very strong UCF program and won a decent amount of games, but if anything they got worse during his time there.
Eff Phil Fulmer!

That is all...
 
Archie is a really good coach who will win at a huge rate back in the A10 or American. I haven't followed IU closely but I just dont think he recruited at a high enough level. Kinda similar to Capel here. Had too much confidence in his recruiting which resulted on too many misses on top targets that they were never going to get.
 
Archie is a really good coach who will win at a huge rate back in the A10 or American. I haven't followed IU closely but I just dont think he recruited at a high enough level. Kinda similar to Capel here. Had too much confidence in his recruiting which resulted on too many misses on top targets that they were never going to get.
You have to be related to them to have this ridiculous take. Archie sucks. Always has always will.

You’re correct. If he lands another job that spends more money than everyone else, has a better fan base than everyone else, etc disproportionate to the league has better resources he will win. If he gets a league average job like Indiana, he will lose. He sucks. Obviously.
 
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