The Goaltending review rule

[Sean Miller Fan]

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article286442010.html

This is confusing. Do I have this right because this sounds terrible:

Lets say Pitt is in a tie game with 5 minutes left. Duke blocks the ball out of bounds. A goaltend is called. Pitt is up 2. A few possessions go by without scoring and we are at the under 4 timeout. Duke ball. We are up 2. The officials determine the goaltending call was incorrect so they take 2 points from us. Now, remember that back on the play in question, the ball was blocked out of bounds so it would have been our ball. But since the refs got the call wrong and awarded us 2 points we shouldn't have gotten, we never got the chance to make up for this since the ball was blocked out of bounds. Now, after the review, its Duke ball and they took 2 points from us. If I am understanding this correctly, this seems like one of the dumbest rules I've heard of.

 

[pittjas]

I have asked this multiple times this season and after looking it up, came to the same conclusion as you.

It is crazy.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I have asked this multiple times this season and after looking it up, came to the same conclusion as you.

It is crazy.

In the scenario, I provided above, if the ball belongs to Duke after the TV Timeout but they took 2 points away from Pitt, the ball should go back to Pitt.....at the very least. If the ball is blocked out of bounds but an incorrect goaltend was called, taking 2 points off the board AND losing possession is too punitive and makes no sense. What if instead of the ball being blocked out of bounds, it fell to a Pitt player in position for an easy basket?

If this is indeed the rule, then it needs changed. How can people be this stupid. There's like 2 goaltends per game. Just go to the monitor right then and if it takes you more than 30 seconds to decide, then go with the call on the court. Or allow the coaches a goaltending challenge and if they lose, they lose a timeout.

Another thing I'd ask is can a coach elect to overturn a goaltending goal that goes in favor of his team? In the above example, if Capel feels that the Duke player did NOT goaltend when he blocked it out of bounds, can he say he doesn't want the 2 points and will just take the ball out of bounds. Because if he does not, he will eventually lose those 2 points AND possession of the ball.

 

[Gunner Panther]

I've had this same exact thought multiple times but then saw one even crazier.

Can't remember game but Im hoping someone else saw this too. Play called goaltending, but ball went in off the backboard anyway. They reviewed it. Announcers (and I) were confused why it was being reviewed, since the ball went in. Explanation was that once goaltending was called, the play is dead. So review to overturn goaltending would have wiped out the basket. I was dumbfounded. They confirmed the goaltend, so it didn't happen. But this is apparently a thing.

Crazy and stupid.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I've had this same exact thought multiple times but then saw one even crazier.

Can't remember game but Im hoping someone else saw this too. Play called goaltending, but ball went in off the backboard anyway. They reviewed it. Announcers (and I) were confused why it was being reviewed, since the ball went in. Explanation was that once goaltending was called, the play is dead. So review to overturn goaltending would have wiped out the basket. I was dumbfounded. They confirmed the goaltend, so it didn't happen. But this is apparently a thing.

Crazy and stupid.

I want a coach to say "no, we dont want the goaltend, we'll take the ball instead." In some of these games, points are at a real premium. Can you risk taking the goaltended 2 points if you feel there is a good chance it'll be overturned. Just take the ball.

 

[Gunner Panther]

I want a coach to say "no, we dont want the goaltend, we'll take the ball instead." In some of these games, points are at a real premium. Can you risk taking the goaltended 2 points if you feel there is a good chance it'll be overturned. Just take the ball.

What they should do is let it play out after the potential goaltend to determine who subsequently gained possession, then blow the whistle (ie keep the flag down like soccer offside). Then review immediately.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

What they should do is let it play out after the potential goaltend to determine who subsequently gained possession, then blow the whistle (ie keep the flag down like soccer offside). Then review immediately.

Literally out of the 10 options there are, the worst one is to take points off the board several minutes later and not allow that team a chance to get that possession back. Who thought of that? I have a feeling this will cost us a game.

 

[Pitt79]

off topic, They should just play European rules and allow offensive goal tending, as for reviews they should stop the reviews of anything at the next stoppage altogether, either review thing when they happen or better yet not at all.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

off topic, They should just play European rules and allow offensive goal tending, as for reviews they should stop the reviews of anything at the next stoppage altogether, either review thing when they happen or better yet not at all.

That isn't quite the European rule. The European (really international) rule is that once the ball hits the rim it's fair game for everyone, offense or defense.

That is what they ought to change the rule to.