The Penn State and Baylor connection

[TempleBAPittMPA]

Isn't this the football player who landed at Baylor after having been kicked out of Penn State for an act of violence against a female employee of the school?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...n-sexual-assault-charge/ar-BBuyUjJ?li=BBnb7Kz

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Yes, he is part of the Ped St sexual crime tree ( get it ? )

 

[Crimson811]

Yep, that's Shawn Oakman. It was a shame cause he had such potential, but this was early 2012 and we were trying to rebuild after the scandal. There was no way we were going to tolerate any bad behavior, especially sexual in nature.

Kid ended up having a monster career at Baylor and set the program sacks record last year. Good Lord, I can't imagine what a d-line with Carl Nassib and Shawn Oakman at PSU could have been though! Could have had 30 sacks between the two of them!

Either way, it's depressing to see kids with great potential flush it down the drain. If he's guilty, I hope he does his time, learns from it, and gets his life in order.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Yep, that's Shawn Oakman. It was a shame cause he had such potential, but this was early 2012 and we were trying to rebuild after the scandal. There was no way we were going to tolerate any bad behavior, especially sexual in nature.

Kid ended up having a monster career at Baylor and set the program sacks record last year. Good Lord, I can't imagine what a d-line with Carl Nassib and Shawn Oakman at PSU could have been though! Could have had 30 sacks between the two of them!

Either way, it's depressing to see kids with great potential flush it down the drain. If he's guilty, I hope he does his time, learns from it, and gets his life in order.

All programs have trouble Players and usually is because it is about being Young & Dumb as one way to describe it, another is just Inexperience, Bad Judgments, and getting into problems that require responsibility and accountability to get out of and all College Football Programs have a Hall of Shame, as well as Hall of Famers!

I always point out now of days, How Penn State 2012 Reforms are a Model of Excellent Compliance now and you are correct, Penn State won't even tolerate anyone not following the Athletic Code of Conduct and are now subject to Judicial Affairs Discipline first and foremost then Head Coach can do more if they so choose.

I bet you did not know, when anyone gives money to Penn State gets a Criminal Background Check and that money will not be accepted and returned, if it falls under criteria not acceptable anymore from anyone.

Societal Values have changed too and Rice ray lost a $28 Million Contract and Job for knocking out his spouse! Baylor fired its Winningest Coach in its History. Social Norms and Social Media have changed and it is not about Wins and making money anymore, but a higher standard today.

Penn State has had far less FB Players and Athletes in any trouble unlike before the 2012 Reforms and the same at Pitt ever since Narduzzi has come on Board. I am proud of both and WVU too!

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[wbrpanther]

Yep, that's Shawn Oakman. It was a shame cause he had such potential, but this was early 2012 and we were trying to rebuild after the scandal. There was no way we were going to tolerate any bad behavior, especially sexual in nature.

Kid ended up having a monster career at Baylor and set the program sacks record last year. Good Lord, I can't imagine what a d-line with Carl Nassib and Shawn Oakman at PSU could have been though! Could have had 30 sacks between the two of them!

Either way, it's depressing to see kids with great potential flush it down the drain. If he's guilty, I hope he does his time, learns from it, and gets his life in order.

That was 2012 and you were trying to rebuild after the scandal. Then a little while later you hired a coach who was smack dab in the middle of a sexual assault scandal at Vanderbilt. He was questioned about why he went to talk to the women who was assaulted. Whether Franklin tried to interfere on behalf of his player or not, it is still unbelievable to me that Ped State would hire him at that time with any kind of scandal hanging over him. That told the world that they still didn't get it. Football still mattered way too much in Happy Valley.

 

[sherepower]

That was 2012 and you were trying to rebuild after the scandal. Then a little while later you hired a coach who was smack dab in the middle of a sexual assault scandal at Vanderbilt. He was questioned about why he went to talk to the women who was assaulted. Whether Franklin tried to interfere on behalf of his player or not, it is still unbelievable to me that Ped State would hire him at that time with any kind of scandal hanging over him. That told the world that they still didn't get it. Football still mattered way too much in Happy Valley.

Ooouuucch! The end!

 

[Cap pitt]

Isn't this the football player who landed at Baylor after having been kicked out of Penn State for an act of violence against a female employee of the school?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...n-sexual-assault-charge/ar-BBuyUjJ?li=BBnb7Kz

Ped state wouldn't have kicked him out, they would have built a statue of him and put it next to joe's

 

[raleighpanther]

If they put the statue back up (they won't), they should rotate Paterno's extended arm inward, so the index finger in the air is in front of his mouth, like he is making the "shhhh" (don't tell anyone) sound.

 

[pittdan77]

Yep, that's Shawn Oakman. It was a shame cause he had such potential, but this was early 2012 and we were trying to rebuild after the scandal. There was no way we were going to tolerate any bad behavior, especially sexual in nature.

Kid ended up having a monster career at Baylor and set the program sacks record last year. Good Lord, I can't imagine what a d-line with Carl Nassib and Shawn Oakman at PSU could have been though! Could have had 30 sacks between the two of them!

Either way, it's depressing to see kids with great potential flush it down the drain. If he's guilty, I hope he does his time, learns from it, and gets his life in order.

Oakman never had anything happen of a "sexual nature" at Penn State. He tried to steal a hoagie and grabbed the cashier's wrist to get his ID card back. His sin was not answering to BOB right away.

Or was there something else that didn't make the papers?

 

[Farnox]

You would think that these guys would learn. He has a second chance at Baylor but pissed it away and goes from top NFL draft pick to undrafted. With the high celebrity status some of these players enjoy, they should have no shortage of volunteers for their needs and not have to rape women. At 24 he is no longer a kid making a dumb mistake.

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

Oakman never had anything happen of a "sexual nature" at Penn State. He tried to steal a hoagie and grabbed the cashier's wrist to get his ID card back. His sin was not answering to BOB right away.

Or was there something else that didn't make the papers?

From what I recall reading at the time of Oakman's dismissal form PSU, that specific incident (which might have merited a slap on the wrist at numerous other schools, not merely Penn State) was a last straw of sorts--the guy had a track record of prior incidents, and unfortunately for him, in the post-Sandusky climate, the expected wrist slap wasn't happening. No doubt, what just happened to him at Baylor would have happened at PSU.

 

[pittdan77]

From what I recall reading at the time of Oakman's dismissal form PSU, that specific incident (which might have merited a slap on the wrist at numerous other schools, not merely Penn State) was a last straw of sorts--the guy had a track record of prior incidents, and unfortunately for him, in the post-Sandusky climate, the expected wrist slap wasn't happening. No doubt, what just happened to him at Baylor would have happened at PSU.

I'm familiar with the story but there aren't any documented incidents.

 

[caleco's]

man I hope Franklin is there a long time.....I couldn't think of anything better

 

[Pantherman43]

Then a little while later you hired a coach who was smack dab in the middle of a sexual assault scandal at Vanderbilt. .

It's quite simple here. He (Franklin) needed out of the south ASAP and they (the nits) needed a coach ASAP so it was a match made in you know where. You could say they found each other and it's kind of fitting he was hired.

Nothing has changed up there and nothing will, every. Football was, is and forever will be above any and all. Especially over the welfare of a child.

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

As long as Franklin's at PSU, Pitt will never land a highly rated class, which, in turn, will make it hard for Pitt to win anything significant. You might wanna rethink your stance.

NEVER? Now, that's a bold statement (pun intended). I can say (with Frank Nittany's record so far to back it up) that as long as he is at PSU, he will NEVER have a season where he finishes more than a game above .500.

 

[marinomd]

You sure about that? You say that because you think Franklin can't coach, but you KNOW he can recruit, and he does it better than anyone on Pitt's staff. As long as Franklin's at PSU, Pitt will never land a highly rated class, which, in turn, will make it hard for Pitt to win anything significant. You might wanna rethink your stance.

Last years classes (Narduzzi's first full class at Pitt) has PSU 23rd and Pitt 31st (20 vs 30 on 247 and 21 vs 26 on Scout). I know you PSU people live in your own little false realities of Grand Experiments, Success with Honor and 107 Strong, but those recruiting numbers don't indicate a huge difference in talent. The good thing is for the next couple of years the two schools can decide it on the field. If Paterno wouldn't have taken his ball and gone home 16 years ago that would have always been the case.