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The RPI impact of not having the Gonzaga game

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Pitt's current RPI: 54
Pitt's current SOS: 27

Pitt's RPI w/win over Gonzaga: 37
Pitt's SOS w/win over Gonzaga: 22

A win in that Gonzaga game changes the outlook for Pitt by quite a bit. Maybe a couple seed lines.
 
what we look like if we had lost? 1 pt game if I remember
 
The committee better factor this into the equation. We tried to play them, and were winning. We should get partial credit. They take injuries into account for crying out loud.
 
The committee better factor this into the equation. We tried to play them, and were winning. We should get partial credit. They take injuries into account for crying out loud.

Heck, Lunardi was even saying they might even take Jimmy B being suspended into account.
 
Heck, Lunardi was even saying they might even take Jimmy B being suspended into account.
3 of our losses were to teams who could be #1 seeds. We play in one of the toughest leagues in the country. It would be an absolute joke if the ACC does not get 6 bids, and we are not one of them. Monmouth would be lucky to win 5 games in the ACC. I am tired of hearing about them being in the field. They should be out.
 
Am I crazy, or didn't Andy Katz after that game specifically say that the committee would take into account that the game was scheduled. I swear he said that. If so, our OOC SOS, which is probably the best argument against our inclusion, is a much hollower argument, considering that win/lose, our schedule would have improved.
 
Am I crazy, or didn't Andy Katz after that game specifically say that the committee would take into account that the game was scheduled. I swear he said that. If so, our OOC SOS, which is probably the best argument against our inclusion, is a much hollower argument, considering that win/lose, our schedule would have improved.

That was definitely said at the time. No question, and I swear I heard Jamie mention it earlier this week. It was during his radio show when Hillgrove asked him where we stood on the bubble. He didn't really want to answer, but he mentioned the Gonzaga game and that it was supposed to be considered.

He has also talked separately about the fact that we scheduled the entire OOC differently because of that trip and the toll it would take on the players. He said that is why we didn't schedule another away game. I hope that having the past committee chairman as our AD would at least allow him to make this point to his past colleagues.
 
Pitt's current RPI: 54
Pitt's current SOS: 27

Pitt's RPI w/win over Gonzaga: 37
Pitt's SOS w/win over Gonzaga: 22

A win in that Gonzaga game changes the outlook for Pitt by quite a bit. Maybe a couple seed lines.

This shows how sick and retarded the system is! LOL, a team could get docked for playing half a game and having the 2nd half cancelled! As if half a game in November would have decided anything?
 
Not nutty enough to agree with SMF on resuming it, but they should've tried a lot harder to finish the game on the original date. I still think that whole thing was a lame effort by the organizers.
 
Not nutty enough to agree with SMF on resuming it, but they should've tried a lot harder to finish the game on the original date. I still think that whole thing was a lame effort by the organizers.

I kinda go the other way. With all the pomp and circumstance before the game, the refs were in a pickle with cancelling before half. I think that game was pretty clearly unsafe by the time Robinson smashed his cheekbone. Could have been bagged 10 minutes in.
 
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I kinda go the other way. With all the pomp and circumstance before the game, the refs were in a pickle with cancelling before half. I think that game was pretty clearly unsafe by the time Robinson smashed his cheekbone. Could have been bagged 10 minutes in.

And they should've been able to decide that based on warmups alone. There was no thought put into that entire event. Take a 5-minute floor cleaning break every 2 minutes, I don't care. Once the game started and made it halfway, they should engineer a way to finish.

ESPN puts on a show to make themselves some money and put zero thought into logistics, and now Pitt might pay for it. It's silly.
 
Pitt's current RPI: 54
Pitt's current SOS: 27

Pitt's RPI w/win over Gonzaga: 37
Pitt's SOS w/win over Gonzaga: 22

A win in that Gonzaga game changes the outlook for Pitt by quite a bit. Maybe a couple seed lines.
This team isn't going anywhere...give it a break!!
All you are doing is setting yourself up for disappointment!
 
This team isn't going anywhere...give it a break!!
All you are doing is setting yourself up for disappointment!

With the right matchups, this team could make a sweet 16 run. They aren't great, but if you're a fan you should want to see them in the tourney. The fact you don't seem to want that makes me question your fandom.

Btw, if pitt beat gonzaga they are probably on the 7 line right now instead of 9/10.
 
Am I crazy, or didn't Andy Katz after that game specifically say that the committee would take into account that the game was scheduled. I swear he said that. If so, our OOC SOS, which is probably the best argument against our inclusion, is a much hollower argument, considering that win/lose, our schedule would have improved.

I heard that on multiple occasions. Dixon definitely has mentioned it as well.
-It'll be looked at, not just for us, but for Gonzaga's seeding.
Dont think it's a big impact, but might be difference between being the highest 10 and the lowest 9, something like that.
 
Pitt's current RPI: 54
Pitt's current SOS: 27

Pitt's RPI w/win over Gonzaga: 37
Pitt's SOS w/win over Gonzaga: 22

A win in that Gonzaga game changes the outlook for Pitt by quite a bit. Maybe a couple seed lines.
You're penciling that in as a win for us because it was even at the half? Pretty generous of you.

What would a loss have done? Zaga's RPI is 44 and they went 1-5 vs. the RPI top 50, and went 1-2 against St. Mary;s, the only team in the RPI top 50 the Zags got a win against.
 
You're penciling that in as a win for us because it was even at the half? Pretty generous of you.

What would a loss have done? Zaga's RPI is 44 and they went 1-5 vs. the RPI top 50, and went 1-2 against St. Mary;s, the only team in the RPI top 50 the Zags got a win against.

He posted that later in the thread if you would read down.
 
ESPN puts on a show to make themselves some money and put zero thought into logistics, and now Pitt might pay for it. It's silly.

Exactly, don't people play there all the time? Didn't they know these kind of conditions are possible there? It's like they want to copy the NHL Winter Classic and have some weird novelty game at some place where the conditions aren't normal.
 
Pitt's current RPI: 54
Pitt's current SOS: 27

Pitt's RPI w/win over Gonzaga: 37
Pitt's SOS w/win over Gonzaga: 22

A win in that Gonzaga game changes the outlook for Pitt by quite a bit. Maybe a couple seed lines.

Pitt would not have beat Gonzaga. Pitt got off to a nice start because we were taking advantage of Gonzaga's guards. As the game neared the half, Gonzaga had made an adjustment. Few had figured us out. I doubt Jamie would have come up with anything to counter their initial adjustment.

Memories can be tricky, but that is how I remember that game.
 
Pitt would not have beat Gonzaga. Pitt got off to a nice start because we were taking advantage of Gonzaga's guards. As the game neared the half, Gonzaga had made an adjustment. Few had figured us out. I doubt Jamie would have come up with anything to counter their initial adjustment.

Memories can be tricky, but that is how I remember that game.
Memories can be tricky..
Pitt closed the final 3:42 of the half outscoring Gonzaga 11-7 to retake the lead.

http://247sports.com/StatGame/Gonzaga-Bulldogs-Pittsburgh-Panthers-102840#1

Pitt actually is the one who adjusted.
Just saying.
 
JRob has a scar on his face from that game that he will see every time he looks in the mirror for the rest of his life! For the love of God, let the kids last game be in the NCAA tourney!!!
 
This shows how sick and retarded the system is! LOL, a team could get docked for playing half a game and having the 2nd half cancelled! As if half a game in November would have decided anything?

I don't think it is exactly that thin of a margin as some on here suggest. What I will say is we were playing a fully healthy Gonzaga team, that had the big Polack at Center and was a Preseason Top 10 team.
 
Pitt would not have beat Gonzaga. Pitt got off to a nice start because we were taking advantage of Gonzaga's guards. As the game neared the half, Gonzaga had made an adjustment. Few had figured us out. I doubt Jamie would have come up with anything to counter their initial adjustment.

Memories can be tricky, but that is how I remember that game.

Not sure how you know they would have lost???
 
We had the momentum. It was clear we were going to win.

Pitt was up by 8 at 11:41 and seemed to have something going. Gonzaga made an adjustment and got up by 4 at 17:43 and seemed to have figured us out. Pitt did out score the Zags by 6 over the last 2:17.

Gonzaga had slowed their game down knowing they had to deal with the floor. Pitt had yet to figure that out. I still remember thinking they would kill us inside in the second half.
 
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Not sure how you know they would have lost???

Just having some fun with my narrative that Jamie can not adjust to adjustments.

That game was a close game that could have gone either way, especially on that floor. There is no telling what the outcome might have been, I go with DT's analysis - We could have won or we could have lost

Drinking too much coffee lately.
 
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Pitt's current RPI: 54
Pitt's current SOS: 27

Pitt's RPI w/win over Gonzaga: 37
Pitt's SOS w/win over Gonzaga: 22

A win in that Gonzaga game changes the outlook for Pitt by quite a bit. Maybe a couple seed lines.
Would that have changed all the double digit loses to the good teams?
 
The "we would have won"/"we would have lost" posts in this thread are downright comical, to the extent they aren't meant to be funny.
 
Barnes said he was going to point out that Pitt was winning at halftime, to his colleagues on the committee
 
Pitt would not have beat Gonzaga. Pitt got off to a nice start because we were taking advantage of Gonzaga's guards. As the game neared the half, Gonzaga had made an adjustment. Few had figured us out. I doubt Jamie would have come up with anything to counter their initial adjustment.

Memories can be tricky, but that is how I remember that game.
Your memory is backwards.

Pitt ended the half on a run and went in with a 2-point lead.

All the momentum was on Pitt's side.
 
Would that have changed all the double digit loses to the good teams?
No... but it would've changed their RPI to the numbers I posted.

If Pitt is 22-11 with a 37 RPI and a 22 SOS right now.... we're talking about whether we're a 7 or an 8 seed right now.... not whether we're a 9, 10, or out.
 
Pitt would not have beat Gonzaga. Pitt got off to a nice start because we were taking advantage of Gonzaga's guards. As the game neared the half, Gonzaga had made an adjustment. Few had figured us out. I doubt Jamie would have come up with anything to counter their initial adjustment.

Memories can be tricky, but that is how I remember that game.
Foul trouble had MY on the bench. I think I recall it that way.
 
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