When will they start coaching QB's to dive instead of sliding? Sliding is much more dangerous as you leave your head up and exposed. And in college football, diving gets you 2 extra yards. This also cost Eli Holstein a few games.
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You can still take a kill shot on a QB if they dive. Swift and vicious retaliation is the solution here. First Houston offensive play should have been a 10 player blitz with Stroud being annihilated regardless of where the ball was. Trading your QB to injury for an ejected defender is not fair nor equitable. It's like a rook for a knight. Have to trade back a defender to ejection for their QB.
Just accepting it makes it happen again. Violence is the answer here.
Brought this up after the Eli hit. He was probably advised to slide and avoid hits. It’s wrong and weak.
It actually does. Well it worked in baseball back in the Bob Gibson days.
Still works in beer league hockey. Guy I have known for years lost his edge and ended up in my net. He didn't hit me or interfere in any way. I was going to give him a pass. He looked up to me from a vulnerable position and begged for mercy. I allowed him to live. People are scared to death to come into my crease. That level of fear/respect comes from the threat of violence.
After the game I always go to the opposition locker room and have beers with them. Only one time was there a problem when a guy had run me and I blocker punched him. He had another go and didn't fare well. Nobody f's around anymore.
Jacksonville needs someone like me on their roster. Keeps it safe for everyone.
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Great documentary called Ice Gaurdians that explains the role of enforcers. It shows that they kept the game safer as there were less cheap shots in hockey. Concussions have gone up dramatically b/c guys take runs at top players. Well worth the watch.
A QB can significantly reduce the chances of a kill shot by diving though. Your head gets down faster, eventually to ground level. By sliding, you leave your head up and exposed the entire time. Pitt lost to Wake last year because Villeaux dove instead of slide and we may owe 2 losses this year to an Eli slide. QB's need to stop sliding. Its more dangerous and the extra 2 yards are important.
I think Rex Ryan said this but the slide rule needs to go away. If you want to be a ball carrier and running down the field, then expect to get tackled by someone. QBs shouldn't get special rules when its a running play whether by design or not -- if you are running the ball, you can get hit. Don't want to get hit then run for the sidelines or throw the ball away before you cross the line of scrimmage.
It’s only the forearm that’s the problem .
Listen - we’ve seen Allen slow down to indicate a slide only to take off .
When you’re a runner - tough shit - you’re gonna get hit
Listen - we’ve seen Allen slow down to indicate a slide only to take off .
When you’re a runner - tough shit - you’re gonna get hit
I mean, there are a lot of reasons why concussions have gone up that aren't linked to enforcers.
The average player weighs 10lbs more than the mid 80s and 15-20lbs more than the 60s-70s.
Thanks to training, technology, and rule changes they skate significantly faster.
Most of the older NHL guys say the players coming up are too protected and skate with their heads down far more.
Enforce the rules, create real penalties and fines and it would do more to protect players than giving teams the greenlight to bring back the enforcers. Fining a millionaire less than their game check for slashing the league's top scorer in the face is a farce.
Start threatening livelihoods for stepping outside the boundaries to injure players and it would do more than a dozen enforcers per team.
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When the QB starts his slide, don't hit him. That's the rule. Break it and face the consequences. The Jags should have ripped that dudes helmet off and beat him with it.
Been saying this for years. The slide needs to go.
Coach your QB to get your head to the ground as soon as possible when you dive. Memphis and other college teams coach this.
Sliding cost us the WF game last year and got Eli knocked out this year. Probably cost us the UVA and Clemson game.
Then I see Justin Fields slide a yard short against the Ravens. Still worked out for the Steelers.
Sliding is not a magical halo that protects you from defenders. Body mechanics your head goes straight back against the ground. Defense will trade 15 yards for a DQd QB.
Coach your QB to get your head to the ground as soon as possible when you dive. Memphis and other college teams coach this.
Sliding cost us the WF game last year and got Eli knocked out this year. Probably cost us the UVA and Clemson game.
Then I see Justin Fields slide a yard short against the Ravens. Still worked out for the Steelers.
Sliding is not a magical halo that protects you from defenders. Body mechanics your head goes straight back against the ground. Defense will trade 15 yards for a DQd QB.
I cant believe QB's still slide. Defenders are coming in at full speed. Even if they want to avoid the head shot, sometimes its hard to avoid that. The head stays up the entire time, totally defenseless. The QB is completely reliant on the defender's intentions. Get your friggin head to the ground ASAP! Sick of losing games because our QB's stupidly slide instead of dive.
Does the world really need more quadriplegics?
You never want to surrender yourself head first in an NFL football game, or any tackle football game. You’ll go from concussions to catastrophic spinal injuries.
