I dont see how everyone absolves Lyke. What does it matter that Capel was a popular or attractive hire? He had red flags at OU and barely won anything without Blake Griffin.
There is nothing more depressing for this program
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I dont see how everyone absolves Lyke. What does it matter that Capel was a popular or attractive hire? He had red flags at OU and barely won anything without Blake Griffin.
Yea man cause the Pitt football program has such a great track record in the last 2 decades right?
It was almost like Duke huddled up w about 12 minutes left in the 2nd half and Banchero said to the troops “Did we let these Bums hang around long enough cuz they honored Coach K? Bet. Let’s do this!” & then proceeded to toy with Pitt like the old Pitt teams toyed with Gannon. Please end this dude’s tenure right after the ACC Tourney. Please 🙏
That's why "schools" like Bama and tOSU dominate college sports, they are sports programs maximizing revenue, that incidentally have a school attached only because that's a requirement to play in this league.
I think this is a really reasonable take. It was a good hire at the time and the fanbase was largely excited. She should take heat for the extension, but the hire was good on paper. I'm also skeptical of the narrative that she got played/screwed up the offer for Hurley. I think he was never coming to Pitt and some Pitt fans would have blamed her no matter what. Offer and she got played. Don't offer and she's sucks for not going after him.
I get that Pitt football has been bad for 40 years, but I think the current roster has way more bearing on Pitt's success in 2022 than what happened 30, 15, or even 10 years ago.
Really? They’ve been pumping out NFL stars for years and still absolutely sucked…
SMF is insane but I do think there’s some merit to what he’s saying here. Olympic sport success is awesome and all, but when one of your 2 main revenue sports is a literal dumpster fire for 6 years in a row, that kind’ve overshadows a solid wrestling or soccer season.
And if you can’t find a way to get the money for a buyout of a terrible extension you gave, that also erases a bit of the goodwill you built with all your olympic sport success.
There’s a reason HL makes close to a million dollars and it has nothing to do with Olympic sports.
And if you can’t find a way to get the money for a buyout of a terrible extension you gave, that also erases a bit of the goodwill you built with all your olympic sport success.
There’s a reason HL makes close to a million dollars and it has nothing to do with Olympic sports.
Confused why you are shitting on the football program that quite literally just won a P5 conference and is set up for another 10 win season.
Bizarre.
I’m just being real dude, I’m not gonna put the glasses on and act like everything is awesome, i honestly wasn’t even discussing football until others started proclaiming how great we are, they had 1 good year in the last 20, amazing
Definitely. But those are usually instances where NFL stars were individual talents surrounded by junk. Top to bottom I feel very positive about the amount of talent on this year's squad.
I don’t think they’ll be bad, but I do think there will be a letdown, QB is obviously the biggest factor here and everywhere to determine success, I don’t know that I trust they have anyone on the roster who can take them to those heights again
But the last 20 are irrelevant in discussing HL and the current state of things, no?
I mean if you look at the last 20 years the bball program looks pretty damn good and the football program looks pretty mediocre.
But that’s irrelevant of the current state of things.
The football program looks like it can be a consistent fringe Top 25 team with a higher ceiling when things work out.
The bball program is a mess.
Olympic sports are pretty good overall. But fixing the bball program has to be priority #1.
I absolutely agree about the hoops program, that’s my main point and issue
To be clear, it's my issue too. I much prefer hoops to football so I'd probably drop Pitt to D3 football if it meant guaranteeing a national title in hoops. And I'm not even disagreeing with you or SMF or whoever else says football and hoops drive the bus. They do. I was just making an argument that the athletics department as a whole is very strong right now. And I believe that success begets success across the athletic department as a whole.
You'll get no disagreements from me that Lyke's next hoop hire will determine the fate of her career here.
I totally get ya my man, I love a good hearted friendly back & forth
, we all have a common vision of getting this program back where it needs to be
Absolutely. It takes about two minutes doing a Google search to find out that OU was glad to get rid of him. At OU players were leaving the program. Lyke was responsible for knowing that. But just like the ridiculous extension, she doesn't do the work.
Exactly- and you know Pitt bb was a bottom feeder for 100 yrs before Howland. That's what's making everyone vomit. She had to fix it after Stallings. We're staring a decades until the stars align again. Well. maybe you will, I'll be dead.
Ehhh, Buzz Ridl turned Pitt basketball around with Billy Knight, no?
The last time Pitt football was in this position as a program was 40 years ago. We have a legit shot to win 10 or more games in back to back years. You can turn basketball around in 2-3 years and it wasn’t all that long ago that we had a good program. Niko Medved and Todd Golden should be on line 1 and 2.
She’s been a total failure. No one cares about any sport except football and basketball.
She totally mismanaged the Comcast deal. But my favorite Lyke failure is when Penn St and WVU were the first to play a baseball game at PNC Park.
She’s in way over her head.
She had literally nothing to do with the Comcast deal. The fact that some people blame her for that shows that some people are completely clueless.
As an example of that, the first college baseball game at PNC Park was played when Heather Lyke was an assistant AD at Ohio State and neither Penn State nor West Virginia played in that game. It was such a big deal that one of the teams that did actually play in that game doesn't even play baseball anymore.
1) Football is in good shape and HL and Narduzzi have a good relationship.
2) Blaming her for the Comcast situation is beyond absurd.
3) Pitt plays games at PNC as well. Another idiotic point.
4) She does need to fix the basketball situation.
She doesn't have anything to do with Comcast and the PNC thing doesn't matter but she probably is in over her head. She's been a C so far. Kenny saved her from her and Duzz being on the hotseat. If Kenny doesn't come back and Pitt goes 7-5, Duzz is probably coaching for his job next year.
The PNC thing doesn't matter because it is simply factually incorrect. The first college baseball game at PNC Park happened in 2003 and it wasn't West Virginia versus Penn State, it was Pitt versus Duquesne.
So he's blaming Lyke for something that didn't happen at all, but what did happen happened well more than a decade before she even got to Pitt. It's the kind of thing that someone who is completely clueless bitches about because they simply don't know the truth.
I vaguely remember that Pitt/Duquesne game but I think it was like a 1PM weekday afternoon start in front of a few dozen fans. It wasn't marketed and I'm not even sure they sold tickets. It seemed like a one-off goodwill gesture. I think what he's saying was PSU/WVU was the 1st branded/marketed college baseball game at PNC. Big difference? No, not really. But I was at Pitt/WVU there a few years ago and there were probably 2K-3K there, more than some Pirates games so playing a night game that's marketed matters some
So in other words, you have no more of an idea as to what happened as he did.
As a matter of fact, Pitt and Duquesne played at PNC every year from 2003 until Duquesne disbanded their program in 2010, with the exception of 2007 when the game that was scheduled there got rained out. And you might not be sure that they even sold tickets, but rest assured, they most certainly did. And rest assured that if you were actually paying attention to Pitt baseball at the time you certainly knew that they were playing and that you could buy tickets.
Ok. But I think those were all weekday afternoon games. Again, that doesn't really matter. But PSU/WVU may have been the 1st night college baseball game with an actual crowd.
Lol
If you think the pitt ad has anything to do with a cable deal for the accn you are a joker .
Oh and by the way I’ve heard it’s available the last few months
Many people knew that Barnes wanted to get out and Dixon was one of them.
Also, I don't think it's necessarily accurate to say Gallagher didn't like DIxon. I've never heard anything of the sort. But he certainly did not support Dixon and allowed people to meet with him for the purpose of letting their voice be known they wanted Dixon gone.
Also, when Dixon had recruits at Pitt for official visits, one of the first stops on the visit was to meet Chancellor Nordenburg. From what I understand, Gallagher declined when asked to do the same thing (and it should be said that most chancellor's don't do things like this).
I don't know all the moves Gallagher made, but he was very visible in athletics when he was first hired, but he's moved far away from it since.
Jesus Christ Kenny Heisman I thought you disappeared, you and PittPharm are top 2 dumbest posters on here
Pitt bb was a bottom feeder for 100 yrs before Howland.
Not entirely true--remember these days? Because I sure as hell do. It was short but very sweet. If Howland or JD had the roster Paul Evans had in the mid-late 80s we'd have a couple of FFs at least, maybe even an NC or two. As it was, even with old "no defense" Evans at the helm those teams were really, really talented and really, really good:
