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[joeydavid]

where no Weaver and Camp probably cost them a win. The dline wasn't as effective getting pressure in the 2nd half. A couple of more high end players probably make a difference in this game.

 

[Parkview57]

no Weaver and Camp probably cost them a win.

Also, on another thread it was mentioned that strain on depth and the fatigue factor was evident in the 2nd half among the dl, I seemed to recall the instances where the DL looked tired, which made the point seem very valid to me.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

where no Weaver and Camp probably cost them a win. The dline wasn't as effective getting pressure in the 2nd half. A couple of more high end players probably make a difference in this game.

So Weaver and Camp were going to be able contribute to scoring more than 10 points?

I mean I guess maybe we could win 10-3 but seems odd to be pining for those 2 when scoring points was a major issue. The D played well enough to win. And while Pitt moved the ball that wasn’t near enough.

 

[DiehardPanther]

So Weaver and Camp were going to be able contribute to scoring more than 10 points?

I mean I guess maybe we could win 10-3 but seems odd to be pining for those 2 when scoring points was a major issue. The D played well enough to win. And while Pitt moved the ball that wasn’t near enough.

Well...10-0, 12-0, and 14-7 were the scores of 3 wins over them.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Well...10-0, 12-0, and 14-7 were the scores of 3 wins over them.

Indeed. And had they won by any of those scores or even 3-0 I’d be happy. Who knows how those 2 change the game but scoring 10 points is no good. And after 3 games it’s enough of a sample size for concern. Could they progress/improve? Sure. But it’s a problem.

 

[oldpanther]

So Weaver and Camp were going to be able contribute to scoring more than 10 points?

I mean I guess maybe we could win 10-3 but seems odd to be pining for those 2 when scoring points was a major issue. The D played well enough to win. And while Pitt moved the ball that wasn’t near enough.

Ups Def. Also played well enough to win so perhaps the score could have been 10-3. The fact remains PItt lost to the better team today with the manpower available, time to move on.

 

[revampedpanthers]

So Weaver and Camp were going to be able contribute to scoring more than 10 points?

I mean I guess maybe we could win 10-3 but seems odd to be pining for those 2 when scoring points was a major issue. The D played well enough to win. And while Pitt moved the ball that wasn’t near enough.

I think the psu drive in the 3rd was definitely a case of the dl just being gassed and they didn't have any backups who were capable of playing at a high level. The coaches saw it to and rotated the dt when the drive was at the Pitt 30. They came back in after 2 plays because psu was having their way with the backups. Not sure it translates to a win because those guys aren't scoring points but maybe it does

 

[DiehardPanther]

I think the psu drive in the 3rd was definitely a case of the dl just being gassed and they didn't have any backups who were capable of playing at a high level. The coaches saw it to and rotated the dt when the drive was at the Pitt 30. They came back in after 2 plays because psu was having their way with the backups. Not sure it translates to a win because those guys aren't scoring points but maybe it does

Agreed. Those two may have prevented a score on that possession or tackled their RB on 3rd and Long when they were backed up early in the game. I think not having a good RB is huge as well. A big time RB might have scored on the screen to Davis earlier in the game, and picking up 1-2 yards would be a lot easier.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I think the psu drive in the 3rd was definitely a case of the dl just being gassed and they didn't have any backups who were capable of playing at a high level. The coaches saw it to and rotated the dt when the drive was at the Pitt 30. They came back in after 2 plays because psu was having their way with the backups. Not sure it translates to a win because those guys aren't scoring points but maybe it does

By no means am I suggesting those 2 wouldn’t help. They’re big losses to be sure.

It’s a matter of opinion I suppose but if I were to wish for something it would be more points before having those 2 back. Doesn’t mean I’m right and there’s no way to prove either side of it anyway.

 

[lilspainishflea]

Agreed. Those two may have prevented a score on that possession or tackled their RB on 3rd and Long when they were backed up early in the game. I think not having a good RB is huge as well. A big time RB might have scored on the screen to Davis earlier in the game, and picking up 1-2 yards would be a lot easier.

I noticed that too. AJ Davis....what does he do well? Not much wiggle, not a power runner....and he really looked slow on that run. He looks to me like a replacement level RB.