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THIS IS WHY I HATE THE ACC AND THE BS REFS!!!

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OH SURE, 15 YARD SACK, NOPE!!!!

LET'S CALL A FACEMASK PERSONAL FOUL ON US.

RIDICULOUS
 
That and the chop blocking/high-low blocks that they just blatantly ignore.

Are those legal? Every option team does it.
Personally I'd coach my players to stomp on their hands but then again I was a ridiculously dirty athlete on the field lol
 
Are those legal? Every option team does it.
Personally I'd coach my players to stomp on their hands but then again I was a ridiculously dirty athlete on the field lol
Not legal, it's been called before in college and pros. I think sometimes some crews just simply don't look for it while others do. Unfortunately it usually takes someone getting hurt on a play like that for some refs to notice.
 
Even more ridiculous.. is that we NEVER saw a replay of the penalty.. it was very WWE
Yes, the ACC Network is very biased as they seemed to just brush it off and ignore it maybe thinking if we didn't see nothing happened they could just hide it.
 
They probably didn't have a replay that showed it. According to the game log the penalty was on Shakir Soto. At halftime I went back and watch the replays that they show several times to see if you could see it. Soto was getting double teamed and unfortunately with the angle of the play and where the bodies were you could not see where Soto's hands were and whether they were up in the one of the guy's faces or not. If the cameras were following the pressure Pitt was putting on Thomas then they most likely didn't have a good view of it to show.
 
But what am I talking about. Of course it was all part of some anti-Pitt conspiracy, just like every penalty called against Pitt and every play that the opponents don't get called for a penalty is.
 
There is no anti-Pitt conspiracy. However there is clear favoritism in the ACC. It has nothing do with Pitt as their own team, but all the traditional ACC schools get the favorable calls week in and week out. Whether it be against Pitt, Syracuse, or Boston College.
 
There's no conspiracy so just stop already, sound like a bunch of Nitters when they cried that the B1G was out to get them on the field because of Sandusky.

While theyve been in the league a lot longer than us Ga Tech isnt exactly old school ACC either as they were in the SEC for decades.
 
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So there's no anti-Pitt conspiracy, there is an anti-Pitt, anti-Syracuse, anti-Boston College conspiracy. Does the conspiracy also include other ACC newcomers? If Pitt and Syracuse, then certainly Louisville too. If Boston College then certainly Virginia Tech and Miami too. I wonder what these conspiracy minded officials do in a week like next week when we play Syracuse? Can the refs be anti-both teams in the same game? Hmmmm.
 
It's not a conspiracy at all. I'm not saying they're out there trying to fix games. I'm just saying they show favoritism towards the Southern schools, such as close calls going their way. They get the benefit of the doubt, I'm not saying right from the get they have in mind to try and get a certain team to win.
 
That hands to the face wasn't much better

The one on Bisnowaty? Jeebus, you could use that replay on a referee training video to show exactly what a hands to the face penalty on an offensive lineman looks like. Anyone who thinks that that call was even questionable needs to shut up, because they are making themselves look like a moron.
 
The one on Bisnowaty? Jeebus, you could use that replay on a referee training video to show exactly what a hands to the face penalty on an offensive lineman looks like. Anyone who thinks that that call was even questionable needs to shut up, because they are making themselves look like a moron.
I agree the call was right. I just really thought there was going to be interference as well, but the camera man was so bad you couldn't see clearly. Wouldn't have mattered though, penalties would've offset.
 
It's not a conspiracy at all. I'm not saying they're out there trying to fix games. I'm just saying they show favoritism towards the Southern schools, such as close calls going their way. They get the benefit of the doubt, I'm not saying right from the get they have in mind to try and get a certain team to win.

Refs don't go into games thinking "hey, Georgia Tech is a long time ACC member and Pitt isn't, so I am going to give them all the close calls today." They just don't. And you make yourself sound silly when you say that they do.
 
Refs don't go into games thinking "hey, Georgia Tech is a long time ACC member and Pitt isn't, so I am going to give them all the close calls today." They just don't. And you make yourself sound silly when you say that they do.
That's what I said, they don't go into games thinking that. But when a situation arises, they're clearly looking at things not in a biased way, but leaning somewhat towards certain teams. There's been times, albeit in the old days, where players have said refs have made calls basically because they were afraid of outrage by the home fans. It's basically the same thing.

I'm just saying it definitely happens. But I agree with you in the sense it's not as ridiculous as some think. It happens in all sports to some degree, it has nothing to do with the ACC being against Pitt.
 
So that was clearly a first down with no need to measure? He probably had it but these are those situations. The refs don't have eagle eyes, there was no way to clearly tell if he had it or not, it was right near the first down marker. Even the announcers said it was a generous spot.
 
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Not legal, it's been called before in college and pros. I think sometimes some crews just simply don't look for it while others do. Unfortunately it usually takes someone getting hurt on a play like that for some refs to notice.
Correct. Been called more than ever this year across the country.
 
I think these announcers had their analysis of that play backwards. He was clearly inbounds, just looked like he didn't have control of the ball.
 
No catch. Is that a joke. Linesman was looking right at it and then the replay official gets it wrong too lol.
 
So that was clearly a first down with no need to measure?

Where they marked the ball, yeah, it was clearly a first down. You didn't even have to be on the field to see that, because it was pretty obvious just watching the game on television.
 
The one on Bisnowaty? Jeebus, you could use that replay on a referee training video to show exactly what a hands to the face penalty on an offensive lineman looks like. Anyone who thinks that that call was even questionable needs to shut up, because they are making themselves look like a moron.
Dude the dlineman hit him twice in the face first
 
I don't know about that. Looks like they robbed us on that one. Pretty bad spot IMO.
 
I like this challenge. Forward progress puts him well ahead of where they placed the ball.
 
No replay on the false start by O'Neil either. Knocks Blewitt out of field goal range. Instead ESPN shows a closeup of the ref waving his arms lol
 
Boyd started up field before the snap on that 4th down play, can't believe those clowns missed it
 
If they call this penalty, there is no excuse for that. Too many dumb pre-snap penalties this season. Ridiculous.
 
Take off the tin foil hats. There is no conspiracy against Pitt or any of the "newer" ACC teams. I think pretty much every program in the ACC has this kind of thread... I've seen it recently on both UNC's and FSU's boards, have seen it on NC State's board.

There was a UNC post recently from the GA Tech game about a ball measurement with a photo that pretty clearly showed it was short of the 1st down (on a 4th down play) and somehow the referees awarded GA Tech a first down...

I think it's more of a symptom of many of these refs being in over their heads and, quite frankly, just not very good.
 
I think it's more of a symptom of many of these refs being in over their heads and, quite frankly, just not very good.
I'll accept that. In the Virginia Tech game a couple weeks ago, the first few calls the ref just looked confused like he wanted someone else to assure him the calls were right. Wasn't going against Pitt, just looked like he was a new official that had no idea what was going on.
 
When we were in the BE, we blamed these same calls on bad officials. If we were in the B1G, we'd be crying bias towards the traditional teams.
It reminds me of the Steelers. Steeler fans are convinced that the refs are out to get us, while fans of the other teams think the Rooneys have the refs in their pocket.
 
Point out a bad call the other way

The fourth down completion in the 4th quarter to Tyler Boyd, when he went in motion and cut to the inside, put both hands on the defender and pushed him off, and then cut back to the outside where he was "magically" now open. I was actually surprised when they showed the replay that the announcers didn't point it out.

Now having said that, wide receivers get away with doing that all the time. But that's a penalty. And if they would have called it it would have been a back breaker. Luckily for us, ACC officials are kind and welcoming and want to make the newer schools feel welcome, so they give us a non-call like that when we play one of the old members of the league.

Thank you ACC refs!
 
Not to mention the officials were going to let us get away with a pretty obvious substitution penalty very late in the game, after having thrown the flag, they inexplicably picked it up... only because of the booth review was the penalty upheld, but the officials on the field definitely blew that one.
 
Ironically the call on the hands to face by Bizz also shows the GT player with hands to the face right back at Bizz. It will take time for the ACC to accept us yankees.
 
Not legal, it's been called before in college and pros. I think sometimes some crews just simply don't look for it while others do. Unfortunately it usually takes someone getting hurt on a play like that for some refs to notice.
Chop blocks are legal in certain situations. There are very specific rules to who when and where on the field. Most fans thing they are illegal just because their is a penalty when not done properly.
 
Chop blocks are legal in certain situations. There are very specific rules to who when and where on the field. Most fans thing they are illegal just because their is a penalty when not done properly.
It is never legal though when one guy goes high and one guy goes low. You are right about the actual chop block though, as to why many called the Broncos dirty for years but were not getting penalized.
 
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