this is ridiculous and unacceptable. Hell maybe Pitt should beg Wanny to come back
Time to resign, Coach
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I would honestly take him back in a second right now.
He should at the very least Fire Josh Conklin
AGREE Conklin is awful
For those that want to can Duzz, just remember PItts track record in hiring coaches............do you really trust them to upgrade the program?
GET OFF THE BOARD!
You know, I rarely post on this board anymore, because the quality of discussion has declined considerably over the past few years. I mainly read it just to laugh.
But this is too comical not to comment on.
I mean, you want to fire a coach who inherited a program that went 31-29 (regular season) in the previous five years. He goes 16-8 in his first two, including signature wins over Louisville, Penn State, and Clemson, and no egregious losses. He has a young team, plays 2 teams in the Top 10 early, looks shaky, and now you want him gone? I mean, seriously? Are we wanting to hire the college football version of Kevin Stallings? Because that's about all Pitt is going to get under that scenario.
And to boot, you even suggest Wannstedt, who was largely responsible for mucking up the program for about a decade? I can only hope you're telling a very bad joke.
Edit: Ok, I saw your post a bit farther down. My goodness you're actually not joking. You're actually that stupid.
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It's Narduzzi's defense. Last year was the worst pitt defense in possibly Pitt's history and Narduzzi didn't fire the guy who just so happens to have the DC title. There is a reason why he wasn't fired. It wasn't by accident.
Something rational!
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but pretty sure too this was basically the first game in the Narduzzi era in which Pitt wasn't really competitive in. Sure, there were some games you knew they probably wouldn't win, but still kept relatively close. Notre Dame 2 yrs ago comes to mind.
But today was fitting, since it was a horrific matchup.
What will the excuse be next week ? I think we are finally getting to see Duzz recruits are below avg, that's what is glaring
To a certain degree you're right.
But you're missing the point a little. It deflects things a little in the minds of the fans and recruits. Fall guy if you will, otherwise everyone believes what you do that this mess is on Narduzzi
I don't think a new coach every three years is the answer guys
I think a better discussion is this:
Given pitt's vision for athletics.....horrible donor base and pathetic fan base
Can any coach win here?
Given pitt's vision for athletics.....horrible donor base and pathetic fan base
Can any coach win here?
Sure. For an extended period of time maybe not.
This. Great post.
He would be a fine coach at a university that supports sports. I think they gave him the impression he would when he took the job, or he wouldn't have taken it. But I do wonder what he thinks now.
Uhh genius......
No one is blaming the fans......I am merely laying out exactly what is in place at pitt.
He is not a good recruiter at all, that's knowing families he has recruited. Saying that, they don't support football, and I guess he thinks he is gone in a year or so anyhow. Win he gets out to a better job, loses this year and next year, and he goes to be an asst again. He will be fine. Most places know Pitt is a coach killer and they play with monopoly money
Actually, our fans are so great, we reward them with a free beverage if they stay for the whole game.
I'm pretty sure that impressed the visiting recruits......
Silly discussion.
Narduzzi is the right man
Narduzzi is the right man
How do you know ? He doesn't seem to do as well with his own players. I am not sure myself
Conklin should at the minimum be fired. And Narduzzi needs to turn this around very quickly or his seat becomes very hot by next year. He has shown no real progress in the time he's been here.
But this Pitt administration is incapable of hiring a competent replacement. Neither Lyke nor Gallagher have the slightest clue about anything. We are in a no win situation until we get a decent AD in place who does have a clue.
But this Pitt administration is incapable of hiring a competent replacement. Neither Lyke nor Gallagher have the slightest clue about anything. We are in a no win situation until we get a decent AD in place who does have a clue.
One of the dumbest promotions I've ever seen. Put a decent product on the field and maybe fans will stay??????
Please explain to all of us how Wannstedt is responsible for "mucking up" the Pitt program? I won't even get into your defense of Narduzzi yet.
This is possibly the dumbest post in Lair history and there have been a ton of dumb post. You fire a HC after 2 8-4 season at a place like Pitt and you can forget about landing a good HC at any point in the near future. I mean what HC would take over Pitt if 17-12 gets you fired after 2. 25 seasons. PN won 8 games his first two season's. Thats after the previous 2 coaches never won more than 6 in the regular season.
Pitt' 8 wins last season are ALL due to the offense. You are giving Narduzzi credit for the play of the offense?
Who knows. I will be honest I have defended him against the idiots who post on here that he should be fired but I didn't like the hire when he was hired. I thought it was another low budget cheap hire. I didn't like a DC as coach. I wanted a guy who has proven that he can develope QB's and run a explosive offense. With that being said PN has went 8-4 each regular season so he has certainly earned a bit of leeway. Recruiting is a bit better(on paper) than PC. So far there hasnt been a lot of studs come out playing well from his first couple of classes. But there are some guys who have flashed. We will know for sure where the program is headed the next 2 years. This is going to be a rough one where you hope we catch a few breaks and win 6 or 7.
Pitt had an excellent offense Chryst's last season here and those players did well in Narduzzi's first two seasons here. Giving Narduzzi credit for the offense is suspect, and this guy is supposed to be a defensive specialist, correct? The defense is so bad, I can't remember watching a defense this bad.
He is the HC. The fact is they went 8-4 the last two seasons! They brought in Peterman, not PC. They won 8 in 2015 with their best player lost for the season in game one. Haven't lost to a bad team unlike every previous Pitt coach, most of them multiple times. Like I said in a another poster I didn't like the hire when it was announced. But he has earned a chance for another 2 years after this one. If they are still going 6-6 and the D still stinks then fire him and start over. I want to see one Pitt team with all the players recruited by the current HC.
didnt Urban Meyer say he was sick of hearing coaches complain about the players they inherit when they take new jobs? Now Narduzzi hasn't complained, but it is year 3 when does he get responsibility for this clusterfk? Considering his speciality is defense it makes this all the more disgusting.
Conklin "at the minimum?"... What else could they do to the guy? Fire him then murder him? Kidnap family members? Sheesh this board is tough today... and I thought I was pissed
Meyer also took over after two elite recruiters. It's easy for him to say that when Ron Zook was he was replacing at UF.
Defensive hires are tough because defense usually requires elite talent. There aren't many Mike Leach types on the defensive side of the ball.
If you're going to hire a defensive first coach at a place like Pitt, he better be an elite recruiter. Because it's not an area absolutely loaded with talent like FL or GA or Texas, and it's not a school that recruits itself.
Narduzzi isn't an elite recruiter. So you have a defensive head coach, bringing in average recruiting classes. In essence he needs to be that rare defensive Mike Leach
If you're going to hire a defensive first coach at a place like Pitt, he better be an elite recruiter. Because it's not an area absolutely loaded with talent like FL or GA or Texas, and it's not a school that recruits itself.
Narduzzi isn't an elite recruiter. So you have a defensive head coach, bringing in average recruiting classes. In essence he needs to be that rare defensive Mike Leach
Believe me, Dooz will do just fine when he leaves to succeeed Dantonio at MSU in a couple of years.
See Chryst, P. for further reference.
Which is less than the previous coaches have done. 8-5 is probably the standard for Pitt with the current support from fans and administration. Sure you should have some years where you do a bit better but you would also have years where you will be worse. We lost 3 starters before the season. Anyone expecting him to resign/be fired at this point is a idiot. Now I have some doubts moving forward.
But I think your last sentence is the problem. In year three you should not have any doubts. Even if he did worse than than previous years, you should feel confident in the direction of the program. The fact that you still don't know, means something isn't right.
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