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Trump, Please Quit Before You’re Fired

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

By walking away, he can save the lives of supporters who have listened to his lethal quackery.

By Timothy Egan

It was clear when President Trump woke up on Thursday morning, with no pollster left to lie to him, and not enough Fox News sycophancy to fill his cereal bowl, that he would have to play one of the last tricks in the dictator’s handbook.

He floated the idea of breaching the Constitution by illegally delaying the national election. It follows his logic on a pandemic that has taken more than 150,000 American lives. If there were less testing for the coronavirus, cases would go down. Ergo, if there were no election on Nov. 3, he couldn’t be booted from office in a wipeout. The stable genius strikes again!

Here’s a better suggestion: As a mortal threat to those looking for life-or-death guidance from the White House, he should do humanity a favor and surrender now. He can quit while he’s only behind by 10 points or so. More important, by walking away today, he can save many lives of supporters who have listened to the lethal quackery from the presidential podium.

He gave up in the war on Covid-19 from Day 1, when he declared that there was nothing to worry about, it would all soon disappear like magic. And his throw-in-the-towel tactics continue to this day, as he promotes the harmful and bizarre suggestions of a woman who also believes in demon sperm transmitted through dreams.

the infamous sellout in Helsinki. So it was no surprise when the two leaders spoke by phone this week that Trump did not even raise the question of Russians paying a bounty to have American soldiers killed in Afghanistan. That is dereliction of duty, son.

He quit on the economy in early spring, when he pushed for a widespread reopening, even though health experts warned that the results could be catastrophic. And thus, this week we saw the largest drop in economic output on record, as people were afraid to resume normal commerce in a country fevered with viral hot spots.

Trump has yet to realize what every sensible business owner knows: The only path back to prosperity is through the managed economic sacrifice and uniform health guidelines needed to get the virus under control.

He quit on the Constitution, obstructing Congress and abusing power, in the scheme to tie aid to a struggling ally to a demand that Ukraine dig up dirt on a political opponent.

From there, he’s become increasingly authoritarian. Clearing a park full of peaceful protesters by force in order to stage a photo op with a Bible was just the start.

Of late, Trump has been itching for a riot. With buildings aflame, windows smashed and mobs in the streets, he could fulfill his prophecy of being the only man able to fix the American carnage he warned us about. Majorities support changes needed to root out systemic racism. The only way that Trump can hold back the tide is to change the story.

Except, some of the players are not who we think they are. The police have identified the man who turned largely peaceful Black Lives Matter protests into mayhem in Minneapolis — the window-smashing Umbrella Man — as a white supremacist.

Sending Trump’s troops into American cities appears to have backfired, even as the president announced plans to possibly send new federal agents into Cleveland, Milwaukee and Detroit, counting on swing state showdowns for the Fox News machine.

If Trump were to quit, he would join Richard Nixon in disgrace — he’d be an impeached president (Nixon quit on the brink of impeachment) forced from office. Except, Nixon is a notch higher in the hell-scape, given his diplomatic openings in China and his signing of landmark environmental laws.

Delaying the Nov. 3 election is not only illegal, it would be unprecedented. Lincoln held the regular election during the Civil War, and Franklin Roosevelt faced voters on time during World War II.

If Trump were to walk away today, the likely nominee of his party would be Mike Pence. And Democrats shouldn’t be afraid of facing Pence. He’s Trump with a pious veneer, the man sent to the border to justify putting kids in cages, the Stepford veep always there with a timely bootlick. And of course, he carries a portfolio of failure as the man chosen to oversee the federal government’s disastrous response to the pandemic.

Quitting before an election would deprive Americans of the satisfaction of rejecting him by an overwhelming margin, a national shower to clean off four years of his grime and grift.

But there’s another image, equally satisfying. Trump could play one last gambit in the dictator’s checklist and refuse to leave office on Jan. 20 — election or no election — as required by the Constitution. If he does this, a weary nation would be rewarded with a presidential perp walk, as Trump is escorted out of the White House and into infamy by the military police.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

By walking away, he can save the lives of supporters who have listened to his lethal quackery.

By Timothy Egan

It was clear when President Trump woke up on Thursday morning, with no pollster left to lie to him, and not enough Fox News sycophancy to fill his cereal bowl, that he would have to play one of the last tricks in the dictator’s handbook.

He floated the idea of breaching the Constitution by illegally delaying the national election. It follows his logic on a pandemic that has taken more than 150,000 American lives. If there were less testing for the coronavirus, cases would go down. Ergo, if there were no election on Nov. 3, he couldn’t be booted from office in a wipeout. The stable genius strikes again!

Here’s a better suggestion: As a mortal threat to those looking for life-or-death guidance from the White House, he should do humanity a favor and surrender now. He can quit while he’s only behind by 10 points or so. More important, by walking away today, he can save many lives of supporters who have listened to the lethal quackery from the presidential podium.

He gave up in the war on Covid-19 from Day 1, when he declared that there was nothing to worry about, it would all soon disappear like magic. And his throw-in-the-towel tactics continue to this day, as he promotes the harmful and bizarre suggestions of a woman who also believes in demon sperm transmitted through dreams.

the infamous sellout in Helsinki. So it was no surprise when the two leaders spoke by phone this week that Trump did not even raise the question of Russians paying a bounty to have American soldiers killed in Afghanistan. That is dereliction of duty, son.

He quit on the economy in early spring, when he pushed for a widespread reopening, even though health experts warned that the results could be catastrophic. And thus, this week we saw the largest drop in economic output on record, as people were afraid to resume normal commerce in a country fevered with viral hot spots.

Trump has yet to realize what every sensible business owner knows: The only path back to prosperity is through the managed economic sacrifice and uniform health guidelines needed to get the virus under control.

He quit on the Constitution, obstructing Congress and abusing power, in the scheme to tie aid to a struggling ally to a demand that Ukraine dig up dirt on a political opponent.

From there, he’s become increasingly authoritarian. Clearing a park full of peaceful protesters by force in order to stage a photo op with a Bible was just the start.

Of late, Trump has been itching for a riot. With buildings aflame, windows smashed and mobs in the streets, he could fulfill his prophecy of being the only man able to fix the American carnage he warned us about. Majorities support changes needed to root out systemic racism. The only way that Trump can hold back the tide is to change the story.

Except, some of the players are not who we think they are. The police have identified the man who turned largely peaceful Black Lives Matter protests into mayhem in Minneapolis — the window-smashing Umbrella Man — as a white supremacist.

Sending Trump’s troops into American cities appears to have backfired, even as the president announced plans to possibly send new federal agents into Cleveland, Milwaukee and Detroit, counting on swing state showdowns for the Fox News machine.

If Trump were to quit, he would join Richard Nixon in disgrace — he’d be an impeached president (Nixon quit on the brink of impeachment) forced from office. Except, Nixon is a notch higher in the hell-scape, given his diplomatic openings in China and his signing of landmark environmental laws.

Delaying the Nov. 3 election is not only illegal, it would be unprecedented. Lincoln held the regular election during the Civil War, and Franklin Roosevelt faced voters on time during World War II.

If Trump were to walk away today, the likely nominee of his party would be Mike Pence. And Democrats shouldn’t be afraid of facing Pence. He’s Trump with a pious veneer, the man sent to the border to justify putting kids in cages, the Stepford veep always there with a timely bootlick. And of course, he carries a portfolio of failure as the man chosen to oversee the federal government’s disastrous response to the pandemic.

Quitting before an election would deprive Americans of the satisfaction of rejecting him by an overwhelming margin, a national shower to clean off four years of his grime and grift.

But there’s another image, equally satisfying. Trump could play one last gambit in the dictator’s checklist and refuse to leave office on Jan. 20 — election or no election — as required by the Constitution. If he does this, a weary nation would be rewarded with a presidential perp walk, as Trump is escorted out of the White House and into infamy by the military police.

Wow, you really are brainwashed. So sad you believe this drivel and have turned communist. I'm sure you know that Egan writes for the American Pravda, the NYT. Maybe you don't. His writings are to the extreme left and socialist/communist. Therefore, it has no place in rational discussion in America.
 
Wow, you really are brainwashed. So sad you believe this drivel and have turned communist. I'm sure you know that Egan writes for the American Pravda, the NYT. Maybe you don't. His writings are to the extreme left and socialist/communist. Therefore, it has no place in rational discussion in America.

No I didn't know that. But here in America everyone is allowed to speak. It's in the constitution. Squashing free speech is for an authoritarian which you are advocating.
 
Wow, you really are brainwashed. So sad you believe this drivel and have turned communist. I'm sure you know that Egan writes for the American Pravda, the NYT. Maybe you don't. His writings are to the extreme left and socialist/communist. Therefore, it has no place in rational discussion in America.
The first thing I did was click on Timothy Egan's name in J's OP. You should read some of his other works. They're a hoot. It's why I posted the Soviet National Anthem.

Now, Walter Egan...there's a true American!
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

By walking away, he can save the lives of supporters who have listened to his lethal quackery.

By Timothy Egan

It was clear when President Trump woke up on Thursday morning, with no pollster left to lie to him, and not enough Fox News sycophancy to fill his cereal bowl, that he would have to play one of the last tricks in the dictator’s handbook.

He floated the idea of breaching the Constitution by illegally delaying the national election. It follows his logic on a pandemic that has taken more than 150,000 American lives. If there were less testing for the coronavirus, cases would go down. Ergo, if there were no election on Nov. 3, he couldn’t be booted from office in a wipeout. The stable genius strikes again!

Here’s a better suggestion: As a mortal threat to those looking for life-or-death guidance from the White House, he should do humanity a favor and surrender now. He can quit while he’s only behind by 10 points or so. More important, by walking away today, he can save many lives of supporters who have listened to the lethal quackery from the presidential podium.

He gave up in the war on Covid-19 from Day 1, when he declared that there was nothing to worry about, it would all soon disappear like magic. And his throw-in-the-towel tactics continue to this day, as he promotes the harmful and bizarre suggestions of a woman who also believes in demon sperm transmitted through dreams.

the infamous sellout in Helsinki. So it was no surprise when the two leaders spoke by phone this week that Trump did not even raise the question of Russians paying a bounty to have American soldiers killed in Afghanistan. That is dereliction of duty, son.

He quit on the economy in early spring, when he pushed for a widespread reopening, even though health experts warned that the results could be catastrophic. And thus, this week we saw the largest drop in economic output on record, as people were afraid to resume normal commerce in a country fevered with viral hot spots.

Trump has yet to realize what every sensible business owner knows: The only path back to prosperity is through the managed economic sacrifice and uniform health guidelines needed to get the virus under control.

He quit on the Constitution, obstructing Congress and abusing power, in the scheme to tie aid to a struggling ally to a demand that Ukraine dig up dirt on a political opponent.

From there, he’s become increasingly authoritarian. Clearing a park full of peaceful protesters by force in order to stage a photo op with a Bible was just the start.

Of late, Trump has been itching for a riot. With buildings aflame, windows smashed and mobs in the streets, he could fulfill his prophecy of being the only man able to fix the American carnage he warned us about. Majorities support changes needed to root out systemic racism. The only way that Trump can hold back the tide is to change the story.

Except, some of the players are not who we think they are. The police have identified the man who turned largely peaceful Black Lives Matter protests into mayhem in Minneapolis — the window-smashing Umbrella Man — as a white supremacist.

Sending Trump’s troops into American cities appears to have backfired, even as the president announced plans to possibly send new federal agents into Cleveland, Milwaukee and Detroit, counting on swing state showdowns for the Fox News machine.

If Trump were to quit, he would join Richard Nixon in disgrace — he’d be an impeached president (Nixon quit on the brink of impeachment) forced from office. Except, Nixon is a notch higher in the hell-scape, given his diplomatic openings in China and his signing of landmark environmental laws.

Delaying the Nov. 3 election is not only illegal, it would be unprecedented. Lincoln held the regular election during the Civil War, and Franklin Roosevelt faced voters on time during World War II.

If Trump were to walk away today, the likely nominee of his party would be Mike Pence. And Democrats shouldn’t be afraid of facing Pence. He’s Trump with a pious veneer, the man sent to the border to justify putting kids in cages, the Stepford veep always there with a timely bootlick. And of course, he carries a portfolio of failure as the man chosen to oversee the federal government’s disastrous response to the pandemic.

Quitting before an election would deprive Americans of the satisfaction of rejecting him by an overwhelming margin, a national shower to clean off four years of his grime and grift.

But there’s another image, equally satisfying. Trump could play one last gambit in the dictator’s checklist and refuse to leave office on Jan. 20 — election or no election — as required by the Constitution. If he does this, a weary nation would be rewarded with a presidential perp walk, as Trump is escorted out of the White House and into infamy by the military police.
NYT....garbage. Trump's predecessor never did his duties.
 
No I didn't know that. But here in America everyone is allowed to speak. It's in the constitution. Squashing free speech is for an authoritarian which you are advocating.

I'm never going to advocate someone taking my free speech rights away from me. That's why I'd never vote for a socialist. They are for free speech as long as they agree with the speech. If they don't, it is censored and you are canceled. This has been demonstrated and proven multiple times as how Dems/socialists operate. That's how authoritarians operate, and that's how Dems operate.

BTW, I'm not advocating Trump in any way. If you read my posts, you'd know that.
 
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No I didn't know that. But here in America everyone is allowed to speak. It's in the constitution. Squashing free speech is for an authoritarian which you are advocating.
You are, as always, out of touch. Conservative commentators are STOPPED from appearing on college campuses all the time, either by the cowed administration, the disgusting Marxist faculty, or the brainwashed adolescents in their classes. Some of the latter might disagree, but can't display it or they'll not get a passing grade.
Meanwhile, conservatives do NOTHING to impede liberal blowhards.
 
I'm never going to advocate someone taking my free speech rights away from me. That's why I'd never vote for a socialist. They are for free speech as long as they agree with the speech. If they don't, it is censored and you are canceled. This has been demonstrated and proven multiple times as how Dems/socialists operate. That's how authoritarians operate, and that's how Dems operate.

BTW, I'm not advocating Trump in any way. If you read my posts, you'd know that.

There is an authoritarian wannabe in the W/H now—Trump. You don’t recognize him?

Corrections: We will never be a Marxist country. Never, we are a Free Market economy with some socialism to correct Pure Capitalism.
 
Wow, you really are brainwashed. So sad you believe this drivel and have turned communist. I'm sure you know that Egan writes for the American Pravda, the NYT. Maybe you don't. His writings are to the extreme left and socialist/communist. Therefore, it has no place in rational discussion in America.

Thank you, Mr. Goebbels.
 
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There is an authoritarian wannabe in the W/H now—Trump. You don’t recognize him?

Corrections: We will never be a Marxist country. Never, we are a Free Market economy with some socialism to correct Pure Capitalism.

If you think that we'll never be a Marxist country, try telling that to the Marxists that are running on the Dem tickets, including Biden and his puppeteers. Biden doesn't know who he is, where he is or what day it is. But he has others pulling his strings, and they are Marxists.

You need to study the Communist Manifesto sometime, precept by precept. It's very revealing and interesting to see how those policies are mirror images of what the Dems/socialists are promoting.

BTW, there will ALWAYS be an authoritarian wannabe in the W/H. That's the definition of a politician....they want power and will do anything to get it and keep it and to exercise their power over people. This is especially true of Dems.They want control over our lives. That's authoritarianism in its purest form. Do YOU recognize that?

You are entitled to your opinion and your free expression of it. I am also. I also don't link a person's integrity and character with their politics. There are a lot of very good people out there who I disagree with vehemently as they are on the opposite end of the political spectrum as I am. And we get along on a personal level. What I have no tolerance for is hypocrisy, stupidity, and lack of humility. That usually defines most politicians and the extremes of the political spectrum.
 
J, if you want anyone here to start taking you serious, you need to up your standards and quit posting anything from the NYT.
 
No I didn't know that. But here in America everyone is allowed to speak. It's in the constitution. Squashing free speech is for an authoritarian which you are advocating.

I really appreciate you posting that article. I've been having some health problems and I needed a good laugh. Thanks.
 
I really appreciate you posting that article. I've been having some health problems and I needed a good laugh. Thanks.

Truth is stranger than fiction. Glad that you got a laugh, but in all seriousness, those who have been victims of Trump's failed leadership especially with the Covid-19 are where I don't want to be nor do I want anyone else there. That is my motivation.
 
J, if you want anyone here to start taking you serious, you need to up your standards and quit posting anything from the NYT.

The absolute highest standards are not with this President. He is at the lowest. Honesty, integrity, morality, leadership and willing to be able to do the job, and to do the job for the entire country not just for his minority base.

Trump is playing for his re-election and his self interest while ignoring the needs of the majority of our country.

If you are a student of history you will see that the tyrants, the worst characters were the worst leaders that lead to disastrous results. We are seeing that playing out right now.
 
If you think that we'll never be a Marxist country, try telling that to the Marxists that are running on the Dem tickets, including Biden and his puppeteers. Biden doesn't know who he is, where he is or what day it is. But he has others pulling his strings, and they are Marxists.

You need to study the Communist Manifesto sometime, precept by precept. It's very revealing and interesting to see how those policies are mirror images of what the Dems/socialists are promoting.

BTW, there will ALWAYS be an authoritarian wannabe in the W/H. That's the definition of a politician....they want power and will do anything to get it and keep it and to exercise their power over people. This is especially true of Dems.They want control over our lives. That's authoritarianism in its purest form. Do YOU recognize that?

You are entitled to your opinion and your free expression of it. I am also. I also don't link a person's integrity and character with their politics. There are a lot of very good people out there who I disagree with vehemently as they are on the opposite end of the political spectrum as I am. And we get along on a personal level. What I have no tolerance for is hypocrisy, stupidity, and lack of humility. That usually defines most politicians and the extremes of the political spectrum.

Thank you for taking the time and energy to express yourself in answer to my OP.

But like all assumptions, they lead to faulty results. Your opinions are based on faulty assumptions and mischaracterizations. Marxism is not part of the democratic agenda.

At the basis of leading a large wealthy and powerful industrial country leadership needs a concern for all of the people, and that includes those left behind, the sick, infirm, the aged, the uninsured, the ignored, the weak and the poor. What kind of country can you have when 1/3 of the country is without resources, influence, and economic and political power?

Gravitating to the wealthy can be of personal and political advantage but is it morally right. When a wealthy diverse country ignores the bottom 1/3 how is that country made stronger? Providing benefits to the less fortunate in the end strengthens the entire country since they can also provide to the success and wealth of the country.

Black Americans for the most part live in substandard housing, go to substandard schools and have substandard meals and HEALTH. Is that good? And their right to vote is a target for suppression and against democratic fairness and against the ideals of this country.

Pure capitalism does not distribute income and wealth fairly. So in our market based capitalist economy we need social programs to help and assist those less fortunate.
 
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Thank you for taking the time and energy to express yourself in answer to my OP.

But like all assumptions, they lead to faulty results. Your opinions are based on faulty assumptions and mischaracterizations. Marxism is not part of the democratic agenda.

At the basis of leading a large wealthy and powerful industrial country leadership needs a concern for all of the people, and that includes those left behind, the sick, infirm, the aged, the uninsured, the ignored, the weak and the poor. What kind of country can you have when 1/3 of the country is without resources, influence, and economic and political power?

Gravitating to the wealthy can be of personal and political advantage but is it morally right. When a wealthy diverse country ignores the bottom 1/3 how is that country made stronger? Providing benefits to the less fortunate in the end strengthens the entire country since they can also provide to the success and wealth of the country.

Black Americans for the most part live in substandard housing, go to substandard schools and have substandard meals and HEALTH. Is that good? And their right to vote is a target for suppression and against democratic fairness and against the ideals of this country.

Pure capitalism does not distribute income and wealth fairly. So in our market based capitalist economy we need social programs to help and assist those less fortunate.

For your reading edification and thought:

https://www.litcharts.com/lit/the-communist-manifesto/themes/inequality-and-distribution-of-wealth

https://www.ushistory.org/gov/13b.asp

No assumptions. These are facts that I've been referencing.
 
I do hope you find that large pot of gold, but when and if you do, stay away from you know who...You would need expert professional advice.
Dreyfus finds stuck. Overpaid their clerks.
 
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