Unbelievable - NCAA just announced multiple teams with a 5-7 record will be playing in a bowl game
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Agree simply too many bowls.
Just read in Harrisburg Patriot news that Disney/ESPN had about 700 million drop in revenue because Direct Tv/Comcast/Etc do not have to pay as much because they pay by number of subscribers and we all know people at ditching the cable/satellite ....... few more years of this and you'll see 6-8 bowls go by the wayside. As of now they don't care much about selling tons tickets because they are getting tv revenue money that covers expenses, ticket sales are gravy....... at least they is what I've told. My Opinion
Just read in Harrisburg Patriot news that Disney/ESPN had about 700 million drop in revenue because Direct Tv/Comcast/Etc do not have to pay as much because they pay by number of subscribers and we all know people at ditching the cable/satellite ....... few more years of this and you'll see 6-8 bowls go by the wayside. As of now they don't care much about selling tons tickets because they are getting tv revenue money that covers expenses, ticket sales are gravy....... at least they is what I've told. My Opinion
Who cares?
Just don't watch games you don't care about.
Others may.
A gambler should appreciate the easy money.
Just don't watch games you don't care about.
Others may.
A gambler should appreciate the easy money.
Yes. 80 bowl slots and only 75 teams with 6 wins. 3 more can get #6 on Saturday but all are underdogs.
Translation: The Big Ten will send 3 5-7 teams to their affiliated bowls.
My guesses:
Nebraska to Santa Clara
Illinois to Detroit
Minnesota to Fort Worth
Translation: The Big Ten will send 3 5-7 teams to their affiliated bowls.
My guesses:
Nebraska to Santa Clara
Illinois to Detroit
Minnesota to Fort Worth
Bowls have always been meaningless, 98%of them anyways. Another game against an opponent out of conference in late December. Would you rather them not play them? Do you have another thing to do on a Thursday before Christmas? Is there a Pitt hoops against a team you've never heard of?
I'm missing why there is outrage. We knew back in August that this would likely happen.
Agree there's too many bowls, but apparently the forces around them are making money.
Agree there's too many bowls, but apparently the forces around them are making money.
I agree with the guy who says just don't watch them. There also may be an intriguing 5-7 team in the mix with that record because of SOS.
Apparently you missed it last year when Congress passed the law and the President signed it that everyone is required to watch all bowl games.
I don't care how many bowls exists. I like college football and each bowl presents another opportunity to watch a game, most of which are entertaining. At worst, it's first rate background noise while I do other stuff. I loved it when there were just 10 bowls, but the alternative programming was the Mary Tyler Moore Show, The Bob Newhart Show, Hawaii-5-0 or other such other programming when there weren't any games. Options are better and more plentiful now, but I still prefer watching football.
They said that the NCAA will decide this week what criteria 5-7 teams would have to meet. I would say the first criteria is that they have to have 5 1-A wins. I would be more OK with that. Probably 90% of the 6-6 teams have only 5 1-A wins.
More football is a good thing. The problem is some people had some mythical, glorified perception of these bowl games in the good ol days. They always were what they are now. Money making grabs to get a few bucks. How watching another round of games is a bad thing, is beyond me
This is an extension of the everyone gets a trophy youth sports mentality to college sports.
Bowl games should be a reward for good to exceptional performance.
In opinion 6-6 teams shouldn't go to bowls set the bar at 7-5 and reduce the number of bowls.
Merry Christmas to All!
Bowl games should be a reward for good to exceptional performance.
In opinion 6-6 teams shouldn't go to bowls set the bar at 7-5 and reduce the number of bowls.
Merry Christmas to All!
Yeah, then some corporate douche from Beef O'Brady will melt from failing to maximize profit.
Not so
Will watch a few (nearly all) no doubt.
And as long as other people do likewise It is ok for the bowl and not harming anything else.
That's why it's called bowl season.
It's really not.... Isn't it purely economics ? ... and if the communities , sponsors and networks keep making money on them and people like me keep watching they will be held irrespective of trophy mentality.....
Which btw is a totally PC bullshite concept, but in this case not actually a big driver. Imo
Not to be snarky, but you and others watching them in a bowl is the reason why teams like a 5-7 Illinois get to play in a bowl.
I agree with you, but the nice thing about it is it gives players and coaches another month of practice. That's just a positive spin. I think giving Narduzzi another month will only make Pitt better.
Money is the driving force, but I'm sure the coaches love the extra practice.
Money is the driving force, but I'm sure the coaches love the extra practice.
I don't understand this idea of going to a bowl as some sort of grand accomplishment. Like I said, people built it up as something great and now consider it watered down. My point is, it was never that great to begin with. There basically glorified exhibitions against out of conference opponents, nothing more. If it bores you, turn on something else
I agree with you it's financially driven and we the football fans get sucked in and watch all the bowl games and listen to the advertisments.
Even though I don't like it I watch every bowl game somehow! During the football season I'll watch the local HS or MAC level games if there's no P5 conference games on. Love football.
It has nothing to do with everyone getting a trophy.
It's entirely to sell advertising and fill up pockets of local chamber of commerce types.
Fans get the bonus of watching another game.
It's literally a win-win.
So- you're complaining about getting what you want, because you're creating the demand for more??
Interesting.
Back when there were only 5 or so, it definitely was an accomplishment. And if you are able to view winning a bowl game as winning the Rose Bowl Championship, Fiesta Bowl Championship, Sun Bowl Championship, etc, you can see the value in them.
The problem, as you mention, is the quantity. The BBVA Compass bowl championship doesn't hold so much.
IMO, there would be ideally about 16 bowls. Enough for the Top 25, and all the conference champions.
good point souf, baffles me why this is a bad thing. COmplain about not getting selected to a better bowl, complain about quality of opponent, but to complain about the game existing, on a pitt message board, just weird.
I don't like the system of sub 6-6 teams or even 6-6 teams going to bowls but yes I like football enough to watch the games because they're on and yes I'm guilty of creating demand for the bowl game clown show.
But I'd be happier if performance was the primary criteria and bowls were limited to 7-5 teams.I have lots of things to occupy my time so a few free hours to do other things would be fine with me. But if its on Im watching.
I am not trying to argue, so serious question, when were there only 5? I remember bowl games in my youth, mid 80s, and the New Years day thing was legit, I mean it was waking up and bowl games from noon (sometimes earlier to midnight). CBS, ABC, and NBC, 3 channels, non stop football. You must be going back before then, before my time.
Hey, times are different, I remember waking up on Saturday mornings to watch cartoons, again the big 3 had cartoons, great days. Guess we can sit around and reminisce about the old days and blame cable tv.
I'm thinking way back in the day, like in the 1920's and 1930's.
Not sure if it was exactly 5, but you get the drift.
Edit: I'll be damned, in 1937 there was exactly 5 bowl games : Rose, Sugar, Orange, Cotton, Sun.
Pitt didn't play in one despite being ranked #1
This is why I am confused. Why does it bother you? Not trying to be smart ass but like others have said, you don't have to watch it. Lots' of terrible stuff on tv.. If companies want to sponsor it and networks want to broadcast it, why the issue? Why do people think bowl games are this "lofty ideal." Where did this come from?
I see your point of view from a sports entertainment, team development, and economic boost for host cities its great.
If you want to reward teams for good - excellent performance sub 6-6 teams shouldn't be playing.
I think of it like the playoffs in pro sports only the best should be there the rest can go golfing.
But as I said its great entertainment and I watch. I also love watching football of any kind but the bowl games should be performance based in my opnion.
the professional playoffs comparison is a good one.. To play devil's advocate against my own opionion. Does the abundance of bowl games, and now being eligible with a losing record, diminish the regular season anymore? Kind of like NHL, NBA, and now NFL, more playoff teams diminishes the regular season. Is that happening in college football? Bowl games should be a reward for a good season, is that now not the case?
Honestly, there is no right or wrong. It's how you value these bowl games. Personally, I value them well under a regular season game but others rank these as almost a post season game, difference in opinion. LOL, Im basically arguing with myself..
