Updated: Mike Leach has passed away
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If God exists it's clear he doesn't give a shit.
Given the number of innocent people dying in hideous ways, yes!
I have come to peace with the idea that faith and doubt go hand and hand. That's especially true when it comes to death. The death of a relative or loved one seems to breed the most doubt, yet it's one thing that is 100% promised and guaranteed. Death is always hideous.
I'd say dying by way of a title wave engulfing someone is much more hideous then peacefully slipping away in the hospital at the age of 92.
Yeah. It's all hideous though. Usually there is a lot to precede the "slipping away", even in advanced years.
We really don’t know these guys on a personal level. I‘ll give them the benefit of the doubt. But let’s say you are correct, the old saying is “only the good die young” is probably true in many cases.
God gives “the bad” every opportunity to turn it around. That’s why they live longer….
Seriously? If God exists and he cares and loves us, there would not be such a numerous amount of terrible sh*t that happens to people. I can only conclude that God does not exist, or that God exists and he doesn't care what happens on to people here on earth.
Sometimes. Other times, it just someone being old and dying peacefully in a hospital or home.
I mean really now, do you want to die at an advanced stage of a relatively normal death at a ripe old age, or would you prefer a being in a building crumbling down during an earthquake?
Frodo: 'It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill Gollum when he had the chance.'
Gandalf: 'Pity? It's a pity that stayed Bilbo's hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play in it, for good or evil, before this is over. The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many.'
Frodo: 'I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.'
Gandalf: 'So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Gandalf: 'Pity? It's a pity that stayed Bilbo's hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play in it, for good or evil, before this is over. The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many.'
Frodo: 'I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.'
Gandalf: 'So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Not to get into a long sermon, but I will say this…
Your view that “I can’t see God, therefore he doesn’t exist” is too simplistic. You are thinking as a human being thinks with limited knowledge and experience.
Look deeper… Consider the following…
Death is like birth. You’re in your mother’s womb. You are safe, you are comfortable, you are happy. Then one day without warning you are torn away from the only body you’ve ever known. You see a great light. There is crying and pain but you realize you are in a better place. You feel greater love and happiness. Death is the same…
God is not to blame for world strife. Humans are blessed with free will. That’s where the problems begin and can be solved as well.
Keep an open mind…
They will have to answer for their actions at the end of their life.
It’s not for us to judge.
“I can’t see God, therefore he doesn’t exist” is not something I said or indicated.
I keep my mind more open that most. It's odd to be told to keep an open mind by a religious person though, don't you think?
Not at all. Suggesting you keep an open mind is out of respect for your beliefs. I am not attempting to tell you what to believe. I am merely pointing out that you should look deeper. Evidence of God is there if you look for it.
Covid.
Millions of people world wide have died from covid, and many more will continue to. If someone believes in an all knowing, all powerful god, a god who created the heavens and the earth, then it is necessary for them to think that god "designed" covid and intentionally didn't give humans immunity from it with the full knowledge of what that would eventually lead to.
I think saying that god doesn't care what happens on earth might just be the nicest interpretation one could make. Because the alternative is a whole lot worse.
Cool. We can agree to disagree. I don't want to make this thread about God, because eventually people will start calling names and then implosion time.
Incorrect. He gave us free will and this world is the result. He loves us enough to give us a lifeline to paradise. Accept it or not. God doesn't need to conform to your beliefs. His values never change. Omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omnipresent.
If he doesn't exist, why are you so angry about the topic? If God doesn't exist, hate sure does. Don't put yourself in a prison of anger and hate.
If you play the odds, study Pascal's Wager in his book Penses. Pascal argues, that if you play the odds, you better bet on there being a God. Because if there is one and you bet their isn't, you have an infinity of suffering ahead of you.
So God couldn’t find it in his heart to forgive? He’d allow one to suffer infinitely? That’s something.
I disagree with most of that, but read my above post. This would be a good topic for a renewed Locker Room forum, but we don't have that here on Panther Lair like the Penn State, Ohio State, WVU fans all enjoy.
Free will: accept him or not. If you don't accept him, you get what you choose. A lifetime in his absence. Purely your choice.
We really don’t know, do we? I’m going to continue with my faith. Just in case.
I still believe in predestination, and free will.
We can still screw things up.
I mean, I know Antonio Brown is going to do something stupid again soon, but it's still up to him!
That's why they call it faith.
Damn, speak of the Devil...(btw, its just a saying, no need to start up the deep theological discussion again)
Wife of Grant Wahl, American journalist who died at World Cup, reveals cause of death
Dr. Celine Gounder, wife of deceased soccer journalist Grant Wahl, has made public the cause of her husband's death: ascending aortic aneurysm with hemopericardium.
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Man that’s scaryDamn, speak of the Devil...(btw, its just a saying, no need to start up the deep theological discussion again)
Wife of Grant Wahl, American journalist who died at World Cup, reveals cause of death
Dr. Celine Gounder, wife of deceased soccer journalist Grant Wahl, has made public the cause of her husband's death: ascending aortic aneurysm with hemopericardium.www.foxnews.com
But. Somehow less scary than some of the concerns he was poisoned after getting rejected for his rainbow shirt
Or just grief from his brother who was concerned while in a hostile theocratic country .
You are in no related to the guy, so repeating a scenario that is clearly false is "fake news"
Well before this thread goes the way of, let me ask this....what do you think Leach would have done at a school with resources, like Texas, or Alabama? Would he have won big? Reminds me a little of Huggins in that he won a lot of games at programs that aren't super blue bloods (no offense WVU, you have a good basketball program) but doesn't have a whole lot of accomplishments behind it (conference championships, national titles, etc).
MSU wasn't much better in year three than it was in year 2 with Moorehead. Would have been interesting to see what would happened in a few more years, but I don't think recruiting was his forte and tough to win in SEC without recruits.
So that's why I wonder, would Texas have been unstoppable if he went there instead of Sark?
MSU wasn't much better in year three than it was in year 2 with Moorehead. Would have been interesting to see what would happened in a few more years, but I don't think recruiting was his forte and tough to win in SEC without recruits.
So that's why I wonder, would Texas have been unstoppable if he went there instead of Sark?
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