UVA with a very Pitt-like exit
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I couldn't be more pleased with UVA's exit. If Pitt can't win the old "Pitt" way when it counts, I certainly don't want to watch UVA have success with it.
The elite uber-defensive Pitt squads at least always made the Round of 16 in the early 2000s. This team is likely closest to Krauser led Pitt team than any other.
I agree... the Krauser teams were a better comparison.
The 2003 team played the best, most relaxed game I've seen during the Howland/Dixon years. They put a beatdown on Indiana in the 2nd round that year. Unfortunately, the team ran into D-Wade in the Sweet 16 otherwise that team could have won it all. It was the one Pitt team that could score at will.
The 2003 team played the best, most relaxed game I've seen during the Howland/Dixon years. They put a beatdown on Indiana in the 2nd round that year. Unfortunately, the team ran into D-Wade in the Sweet 16 otherwise that team could have won it all. It was the one Pitt team that could score at will.
UVa will have roster drowning in SRs next season. To me, they and Sparty play very, very similarly. But, of late and today, Trice, Dawson and Valentine have played better than Anderson and Brogdon. Without Brogdon and Anderson at top level, Sparty took them down. Again, UVa will almost definitely be a 1, 2 or 3 seed again next season. UVa never really got back the mojo they had before the Anderson injury.
Maybe the NCAA doesn't put them in an Izzo bracket. Think UVa wins the ACC regular season title again next year too.
This post was edited on 3/22 12:48 PM by JohnnyGossamer
Maybe the NCAA doesn't put them in an Izzo bracket. Think UVa wins the ACC regular season title again next year too.
This post was edited on 3/22 12:48 PM by JohnnyGossamer
Yeah, Virginia lost.....
to a team that plays slower than average on offense that is coached by a coach who stresses defense and rebound and whose defense is almost always better than it's offense. Why can't we get a coach like that?
to a team that plays slower than average on offense that is coached by a coach who stresses defense and rebound and whose defense is almost always better than it's offense. Why can't we get a coach like that?
MSU always a threat in the tourney, they get good as the season progresses. Virginia might as well looked in the mirror with this team. Both are well coached teams.
Correct, no magic formula. Only constants in the post-season are coaches who win and coaches who don't. Forget what system we play... what kind of coach do we have?
+1 on that. Izzo seems to always do it regardless of the talent. But those guys are rare breeds and hard to lock them down.
But, I at least want a coach who gets you there.
Shot makers. It is what the Defense and Rebounding crowd on this forum never, ever acknowledge. Defense and Rebounding is important, but I'll take guys who can create and make their own shots. And I will beat you. Everytime.
It's simple-MSU defends and rebounds as well as anybody, but they like to push the ball offensively when they can and they have better offensive players every year than a team like UVA.
UVA really is a lot like one of our glory days Pitt teams. They get there with lockdown D and relentless rebounding, but ato the end of the day, they don't have the horses to go deep in March. The good coaching and style of play masks the personnel inferiority. It will be exactly the same deal next year.
The thing is, UVA is not the only team in the country that plays great D. They're just one of the ones that doesn't have the great, or even adequate O to go with it. They are never going to get top players or big time scorers. Bennett has done a great job with what he has.
UVA really is a lot like one of our glory days Pitt teams. They get there with lockdown D and relentless rebounding, but ato the end of the day, they don't have the horses to go deep in March. The good coaching and style of play masks the personnel inferiority. It will be exactly the same deal next year.
The thing is, UVA is not the only team in the country that plays great D. They're just one of the ones that doesn't have the great, or even adequate O to go with it. They are never going to get top players or big time scorers. Bennett has done a great job with what he has.
Agree. To make a run, UVa needs Brogdon and Anderson to take their offensive games to a higher level. Obviously, their D will remain outstanding. Am I the only person that believes Brogdon's regressed offensively this year? Cavs need that to change. And, obviously, avoiding Izzo's region is a must. Tough draw in Round 2 for a 2 seed... Ha.
And, 76, agreed. That team with SRs Knight, Lett and Z... Best Pitt team. Squad with Blair's number two for me.
This post was edited on 3/22 4:57 PM by JohnnyGossamer
And, 76, agreed. That team with SRs Knight, Lett and Z... Best Pitt team. Squad with Blair's number two for me.
This post was edited on 3/22 4:57 PM by JohnnyGossamer
Defense and rebounding can be coached. Creating and making your shot is called talent and must be recruited. Sure, players can get quality shots within a well run system, but you must have players who can do damage on their own when the circumstance calls for it... and a coach who knows how to let go of the reigns.
The defense and rebounding crowd would love to believe systems can win in the dance. They can't. Playmakers will always win in the dance. Over the course of 18 independent games, a system can be successful. In must-win-6-consecutive scenario where every team you meet is tring to keep their season alive, many with no pressure of expectations and nothing to lose... good luck without playmakers.
The defense and rebounding crowd would love to believe systems can win in the dance. They can't. Playmakers will always win in the dance. Over the course of 18 independent games, a system can be successful. In must-win-6-consecutive scenario where every team you meet is tring to keep their season alive, many with no pressure of expectations and nothing to lose... good luck without playmakers.
LOL
Great defense and good offense is needed in these tourny's. No doubt!
However, the most important thing is 2 guards who can get to the rim, late in the possession. Like you seen with Trice and Valentine. Something we need in the worst way.
Great defense and good offense is needed in these tourny's. No doubt!
However, the most important thing is 2 guards who can get to the rim, late in the possession. Like you seen with Trice and Valentine. Something we need in the worst way.
Absolutely.....
that's why Iowa State and Baylor are going to be playing for the championship in another two weeks.
Well, either that or there is more than one way to win basketball games. One or the other.
that's why Iowa State and Baylor are going to be playing for the championship in another two weeks.
Well, either that or there is more than one way to win basketball games. One or the other.
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