I thought a certain Franklin apologist said vandy would never reach the heights that the dominator got them to. Seems this Georgia victory would run counter to the argument they can't win without jimmy
Vandy beat georgia?
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Kirby Smart's honeymoon is officially over and UGA fans want Chaney's head on a platter.
And the play that decided the game was a 3rd or 4th and 1. Chaney called a toss sweep to their slot receiver who looks to be about 160 pounds. Blown up. Chubb didn't even get the ball.
And the play that decided the game was a 3rd or 4th and 1. Chaney called a toss sweep to their slot receiver who looks to be about 160 pounds. Blown up. Chubb didn't even get the ball.
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This has to be one of the dumbest posts of all time. Franklin won 24 games in 3 years at Vandy. Mason has won 10 so far. Sheesh.
Last year, masons vanderbilt was 4th in the sec east...that would tie jimmy franks best end result in the sec East.
I knew you wouldn't be able to let my post slide. You and your defense of Jimmy is funny
No need to defend Franklin. He did a great job at Vandy and he has PSU improving.
All last week you said he is failing at psu because his recruiting ranks are in the 20s at psu
If "Improving" to you is losing to Michigan 49-10 where they aren't even competitive then yea... they are improving.
When they aren't the slightest bit competative at home next week against Ohio State, we can talk about how much they are "Improving".
yep, outstanding at Vandy. Quality wins over Elon & Presbyterian and a 4-8 Florida.
We need burger to post that chart again of the fantastic record of Franklin. Still waiting for that first win over a ranked team.
Just because they got waxed by an elite program doesn't mean they aren't. Tennessee is improving too and they got hammered 49-10 yesterday.
He won A LOT of games over programs that Vandy just does not beat, even when those other programs suck. A LOT.
so beating a 4-8 Florida team with a terrible coach is means to celebrate? A 5-7 UT team with another terrible coach? Feasting on jobbers who would lose to Purdue makes you a great coach?
You are one strange dude.
Thats not an excuse!! You claim there is improvement, yet there's no evidence of that in the standings!?
They are a mediocre program and they will continue to be so. Take off the blue and white glasses!
Our position in the standings went up last year...Penn States didn't...and it won't this year.
They aren't improving like you say they are.
Even when UT has losing seasons, they usually trounce Vanderbilt. He won bowl games versus NC State & Houston. Those things just do not happen at Vanderbilt.
If Cooper and Hoke were the head coaches at OSU and Michigan, then Franklin is in the hunt. But PSU talent disparity is not any closer even with the over hyped recruiting at PSU. Plus the on field coaching compared to Franklin is not even a consideration. There is no great WE Are moment coming. PSU will be at best a 8 win program under the dominator. In fact I see 2017 as a lower win total.
Our conference division is a joke. PSU's is not. Our division leader lost to UGA. You know, the team with Jim Chaney as OC that lost to Vandy.
Ha. So, I acknowledge PSU plays in a much better division and happen to like their coach and that makes me a Nitter? I don't think so.
I think so... please change avatar and start a path toward honesty and transparency.
That game has nothing to do with Vanderbilt. UGA got rid of a good coach for an inferior one. Standard penalty for that is 8 years. UGA is going bye bye for a while.
Why are you changing the subject now?
You claim Franklin was "Improving" psu..you're WRONG!!
Please provide any evidence that they have improved with him as HC in the past 3 seasons? YOU CAN'T! LOL
They are 4-2 with one of the youngest rosters in college football. They will most likely finish 3rd in their division, with the only teams ahead of them ranked in the top 5.
You have yet to provide any evidence that Franklin has actually improved psu...none.
Your bull $hit opinion doesn't count as evidence clown.
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Well, then I also have no evidence that we are improving either, since the closest thing we have to a quality win is a 3 point victory over the PSU team you think is sorry. That said, I think Pitt is getting better too, but we sure don't have evidence to prove it.
Well, then I also have no evidence that we are improving either, since the closest thing we have to a quality win is a 3 point victory over the PSU team you think is sorry. That said, I think Pitt is getting better too, but we sure don't have evidence to prove it.
LOL! I had to go to Harrisburg and could not respond on the Lair, I thought the same thing and it was against Former Pitt's OC Chaney, boy I am glad Coach Pat grabbed Canada, and Tip my head to Chaney because he brought in Peterman, and give credit where credit is due too.
Vanderbilt is still the only Private School in SEC and has money now to attract better coaches and rebuild its Program with Income never seen as much. Franklin did a great job, but left before his 4th year, but says this is his 1st year at PSU when it is 3rd?
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Well, then I also have no evidence that we are improving either, since the closest thing we have to a quality win is a 3 point victory over the PSU team you think is sorry.
You are sorry, the Post Thread is how you bragged about Franklin doing so well at Vanderbilt in beating some SEC Georgia and some other teams. But defended Franklin at PSU saying he needed more time to do the same at PSU? You tried to change Topic but not here Dear on the Lair, is that clear Dear?
How about a FACT CHECK to clear your Fuzzy head????
1. Franklin did well at Vandy using John Donovan as OC, but fired Donovan at PSU?
2. Narduzzi has done better at Pitt than Franklin at Penn State? If you can't see the difference on Offense that is only You??
3. This is Narduzzi's 2nd Head Coaching Year and with just 16 of 4&5* Star Recruits at Pitt that has been rebuilding its Football Program for 20 years under Putz Pederson with far less staffing, clinics, summer camps, and budgets?
4. This is Franklin 6th Head Coaching Year at a Top 25 Income & Budget Program with much more Resources and 27 of 4&5* Star Recruits and
5. Franklin has fired his Longtime OC, and Franklin's DC & OLC left him, and had to replace 4 Coaching Changes at Positions with far more money he has for them. Unlike Narduzzi that just lost one OC that left and none fired?
6. Coach Pat Narduzzi Schedule was tougher than Franklin's last and is tougher this year too?
7. Coach Narduzzi in just his 2nd year and in his 15th game did beat Franklin in his 6th year and 67th game?
8. Coach Narduzzi Offense under OC Canada is better than Franklin's under OC Moorhead? Go look at the numbers versus your own mumbles?
That said, I think Pitt is getting better too, but we sure don't have evidence to prove it.
Oh, we do, you just don't think it, believe it, and can't use facts to defend your prior comments on Franklin even now.......and that is on you???? Did you take stupid pills today or just have a foggy memory???
Well, then I also have no evidence that we are improving either, since the closest thing we have to a quality win is a 3 point victory over the PSU team you think is sorry.
You are sorry, the Post Thread is how you bragged about Franklin doing so well at Vanderbilt in beating some SEC Georgia and some other teams. But defended Franklin at PSU saying he needed more time to do the same at PSU? You tried to change Topic but not here Dear on the Lair, is that clear Dear?
How about a FACT CHECK to clear your Fuzzy head????
1. Franklin did well at Vandy using John Donovan as OC, but fired Donovan at PSU?
2. Narduzzi has done better at Pitt than Franklin at Penn State? If you can't see the difference on Offense that is only You??
3. This is Narduzzi's 2nd Head Coaching Year and with just 16 of 4&5* Star Recruits at Pitt that has been rebuilding its Football Program for 20 years under Putz Pederson with far less staffing, clinics, summer camps, and budgets?
4. This is Franklin 6th Head Coaching Year at a Top 25 Income & Budget Program with much more Resources and 27 of 4&5* Star Recruits and
5. Franklin has fired his Longtime OC, and Franklin's DC & OLC left him, and had to replace 4 Coaching Changes at Positions with far more money he has for them. Unlike Narduzzi that just lost one OC that left and none fired?
6. Coach Pat Narduzzi Schedule was tougher than Franklin's last and is tougher this year too?
7. Coach Narduzzi in just his 2nd year and in his 15th game did beat Franklin in his 6th year and 67th game?
8. Coach Narduzzi Offense under OC Canada is better than Franklin's under OC Moorhead? Go look at the numbers versus your own mumbles?
That said, I think Pitt is getting better too, but we sure don't have evidence to prove it.
Oh, we do, you just don't think it, believe it, and can't use facts to defend your prior comments on Franklin even now.......and that is on you???? Did you take stupid pills today or just have a foggy memory???
Pitt is a little better than PSU this year. Next year, PSU will probably be a little better than Pitt. Neither team is in the top 25 poll I'm looking at.
Dana Holgerson is the only current coach in the region that has anything going right now.
Dana Holgerson is the only current coach in the region that has anything going right now.
"TD_6082, post: 1624414, member: 510"]Pitt is a little better than PSU this year.
Well, I Listed 8 FACT CHECKS, comparison, and you are free to make your own posts a little better too, under each of them, if you think, probably, intentionally you can do it or refute them?
Next year, PSU will probably be a little better than Pitt.
I don't think so, it is now my view that Henderson, Moss, Ollison, Ffrench, Tipton, Weah, Whitehead, Matthews, are just as Talented as group of Players as Penn State Barkley, Sanders, Polk, Godwin, Hamilton, Blackwil, and Godwin and Hamilton may leave for then NFL Draft? In fact, I view it as more very likely and almost certainly, equal to your probabilities? Again your Fortune Telling "Probably" don't match the Fact Checks?
Neither team is in the top 25 poll I'm looking at.
Well, not exactly accurate and you lack some poor FB Insight again. As your inability to refute my 8 Fact Checks above of Coach Pat Facts comparisons to Coach Fake-In's Facts, under your short sighted parameters is obvious are they not? Again, you are welcomed to refute them right under my fact checks numbers, agree with them, or agree to disagree, or correct any of them? I can be fair, admit i am wrong,and thank you when you can do it, but so far, your thinking probables are more pro babel than true comparisons?
Additionally, Franklin has been blown away by a number of Teams, Narduzzi has been far closer and Navy was his sole big beating? Franklin's schedule was a joke last year and is easier than Pitt this year right now?
VT was just ranked now beat by Cuse, Pitt has no upside if it beats VT! Miami the same? Pitt beat this years Top 10 ULou last year. The season still needs to play out?
Dana Holgerson is the only current coach in the region that has anything going right now.
1. Woe, did Holgrosen coach at Vanderbilt?
2. Play against Georgia a few times like Franklin??
3. Holgrosen barely beat Pitt in 2011, by one point 21-20??? Or was that with Bill Stewart still in charge???
4. It would be more interesting if you could post how Psu, PITT, Wvu has played more Teams last and this year that were Ranked in the Top 25 at some point during last and this year season, then PSU or WVU and who ended up playimg more by the end of the Rankings for 2015 and that would be helpful additional comparison?
5. You know that......Pitt or Penn State did play against each other that is the best comparison by the way.
6. Again, the Topic of the Thread was Vandy Georgia????
7. i did not see anything on WVU until you brought it in because you could not refute the Fact Checks?
Are you changing things again because you have no answer to the thread you made up with more poor thinking comparisons parameters???
I don't mind agreeing Holgrosen looking good but what ranked Team did he beat this year so far?
This is Holgrosen's 6th year too and on his 70th game, coming up, and he went 4-8 one year worst than Narduzzi & Franklin ever, without Sanctions or many coaching changes like PSU & Pitt? He did win 10 Games in 2011 but Bill Stewart was still there too?
Holgrosen can show something by beating OKSU, OU, UTexas, Baylor & TCU coming up, just like Franklin has just OSU & Iowa left, now that MSU is dropping, and Narduzzi has it tough too with VT, Miami, and Clemson coming up?
What Big-12 Teams do you think will make NCS Playoffs, do you think it will be WVU? I want to see the WVU-OKSU Comparison Pitt played them.
What ACC Teams, Clemson maybe ULou, Pitt is out but maybe can win the Coastal? If it can beat VT, Miami, Duke!
Penn State is out, and can't win the Big Ten East or do you think they can win it now?
I have not seen PITT's Coach Pat take has many bad beating than Franklin did against MSU, OSU, and Michigan to be fair, and Holgrosen against Baylor, TCU, OU, and others too?
LINK:
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/active/w/west_virginia/2010-2014_yearly_results.php
I can wait and watch all 3 Play out
Well, I Listed 8 FACT CHECKS, comparison, and you are free to make your own posts a little better too, under each of them, if you think, probably, intentionally you can do it or refute them?
Next year, PSU will probably be a little better than Pitt.
I don't think so, it is now my view that Henderson, Moss, Ollison, Ffrench, Tipton, Weah, Whitehead, Matthews, are just as Talented as group of Players as Penn State Barkley, Sanders, Polk, Godwin, Hamilton, Blackwil, and Godwin and Hamilton may leave for then NFL Draft? In fact, I view it as more very likely and almost certainly, equal to your probabilities? Again your Fortune Telling "Probably" don't match the Fact Checks?
Neither team is in the top 25 poll I'm looking at.
Well, not exactly accurate and you lack some poor FB Insight again. As your inability to refute my 8 Fact Checks above of Coach Pat Facts comparisons to Coach Fake-In's Facts, under your short sighted parameters is obvious are they not? Again, you are welcomed to refute them right under my fact checks numbers, agree with them, or agree to disagree, or correct any of them? I can be fair, admit i am wrong,and thank you when you can do it, but so far, your thinking probables are more pro babel than true comparisons?
Additionally, Franklin has been blown away by a number of Teams, Narduzzi has been far closer and Navy was his sole big beating? Franklin's schedule was a joke last year and is easier than Pitt this year right now?
VT was just ranked now beat by Cuse, Pitt has no upside if it beats VT! Miami the same? Pitt beat this years Top 10 ULou last year. The season still needs to play out?
Dana Holgerson is the only current coach in the region that has anything going right now.
1. Woe, did Holgrosen coach at Vanderbilt?
2. Play against Georgia a few times like Franklin??
3. Holgrosen barely beat Pitt in 2011, by one point 21-20??? Or was that with Bill Stewart still in charge???
4. It would be more interesting if you could post how Psu, PITT, Wvu has played more Teams last and this year that were Ranked in the Top 25 at some point during last and this year season, then PSU or WVU and who ended up playimg more by the end of the Rankings for 2015 and that would be helpful additional comparison?
5. You know that......Pitt or Penn State did play against each other that is the best comparison by the way.
6. Again, the Topic of the Thread was Vandy Georgia????
7. i did not see anything on WVU until you brought it in because you could not refute the Fact Checks?
Are you changing things again because you have no answer to the thread you made up with more poor thinking comparisons parameters???
I don't mind agreeing Holgrosen looking good but what ranked Team did he beat this year so far?
This is Holgrosen's 6th year too and on his 70th game, coming up, and he went 4-8 one year worst than Narduzzi & Franklin ever, without Sanctions or many coaching changes like PSU & Pitt? He did win 10 Games in 2011 but Bill Stewart was still there too?
Holgrosen can show something by beating OKSU, OU, UTexas, Baylor & TCU coming up, just like Franklin has just OSU & Iowa left, now that MSU is dropping, and Narduzzi has it tough too with VT, Miami, and Clemson coming up?
What Big-12 Teams do you think will make NCS Playoffs, do you think it will be WVU? I want to see the WVU-OKSU Comparison Pitt played them.
What ACC Teams, Clemson maybe ULou, Pitt is out but maybe can win the Coastal? If it can beat VT, Miami, Duke!
Penn State is out, and can't win the Big Ten East or do you think they can win it now?
I have not seen PITT's Coach Pat take has many bad beating than Franklin did against MSU, OSU, and Michigan to be fair, and Holgrosen against Baylor, TCU, OU, and others too?
LINK:
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/active/w/west_virginia/2010-2014_yearly_results.php
I can wait and watch all 3 Play out
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Coaching against Georgia a few times sure as hell didn't help Penn State in that bowl game where Georgia didn't even have a coaching staff... in fact it was a similar outcome to when Pitt played PSU... Georgia gets big lead... PSU plays the moral victory routine... yawn.
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