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With the spring exhibition matches over......I thought it would be beneficial to start a new thread on the 'comings and goings' of how the 2025 roster will be filled out. To summarize......

  • The spring portal opens on May 1st and closes on May 15th
    • we are all wondering whether Kianna Dinn and Dillyn Griffin will enter the portal
    • If they do....and end up transferring.....the roster slips to 11 athletes
    • Fisher's usual roster size is 15 or 16 athletes.....4 or 5 players short for 2025
  • A strong rumor is circulating that an international player from France will soon be announced......presumably an OH
  • Dinn came in as a setter....and it wouldn't surprise me if Fisher tries to find another setter
  • Griffin was a DS/L.....so a new replacement for that slot makes sense
    • one rumor is that Izzy Masten.....a 2026 DS/L recruit....will reclassify to 2025
    • To my knowledge she is just completing her junior year....I don't see this as a possibility
  • We shouldn't rule out the possibility that a 2025 recruit who is just now graduating....but is not yet enrolled where they have committed....could flip to Pitt.
    • I think this a remote possibility......but nevertheless....it could happen
  • Bringing in 4 or 5 new faces (essentially 1/3 of the team) when the season is just 4 months away is a big deal.....but if any staff can pull it off I'd place my bet on Fisher, et al.
Your thoughts on this.....and anything more from your perspective.....will be appreciated. Let's discuss.
 
With the spring exhibition matches over......I thought it would be beneficial to start a new thread on the 'comings and goings' of how the 2025 roster will be filled out. To summarize......

  • The spring portal opens on May 1st and closes on May 15th
    • we are all wondering whether Kianna Dinn and Dillyn Griffin will enter the portal
    • If they do....and end up transferring.....the roster slips to 11 athletes
    • Fisher's usual roster size is 15 or 16 athletes.....4 or 5 players short for 2025
  • A strong rumor is circulating that an international player from France will soon be announced......presumably an OH
  • Dinn came in as a setter....and it wouldn't surprise me if Fisher tries to find another setter
  • Griffin was a DS/L.....so a new replacement for that slot makes sense
    • one rumor is that Izzy Masten.....a 2026 DS/L recruit....will reclassify to 2025
    • To my knowledge she is just completing her junior year....I don't see this as a possibility
  • We shouldn't rule out the possibility that a 2025 recruit who is just now graduating....but is not yet enrolled where they have committed....could flip to Pitt.
    • I think this a remote possibility......but nevertheless....it could happen
  • Bringing in 4 or 5 new faces (essentially 1/3 of the team) when the season is just 4 months away is a big deal.....but if any staff can pull it off I'd place my bet on Fisher, et al.
Your thoughts on this.....and anything more from your perspective.....will be appreciated. Let's discuss.
I always kind of expect Dan to pull someone big in, Becca Kelly or Ava Martin are logical ideas if thats the case. Id guess Dinn will portal, just a guess tho. So id say they bring in the Outside from France, An international Setter, and a big time outside
 
With the spring exhibition matches over......I thought it would be beneficial to start a new thread on the 'comings and goings' of how the 2025 roster will be filled out. To summarize......

  • The spring portal opens on May 1st and closes on May 15th
    • we are all wondering whether Kianna Dinn and Dillyn Griffin will enter the portal
    • If they do....and end up transferring.....the roster slips to 11 athletes
    • Fisher's usual roster size is 15 or 16 athletes.....4 or 5 players short for 2025
  • A strong rumor is circulating that an international player from France will soon be announced......presumably an OH
  • Dinn came in as a setter....and it wouldn't surprise me if Fisher tries to find another setter
  • Griffin was a DS/L.....so a new replacement for that slot makes sense
    • one rumor is that Izzy Masten.....a 2026 DS/L recruit....will reclassify to 2025
    • To my knowledge she is just completing her junior year....I don't see this as a possibility
  • We shouldn't rule out the possibility that a 2025 recruit who is just now graduating....but is not yet enrolled where they have committed....could flip to Pitt.
    • I think this a remote possibility......but nevertheless....it could happen
  • Bringing in 4 or 5 new faces (essentially 1/3 of the team) when the season is just 4 months away is a big deal.....but if any staff can pull it off I'd place my bet on Fisher, et al.
Your thoughts on this.....and anything more from your perspective.....will be appreciated. Let's discuss.
An international player and portal transfer almost seem like givens based on rumor , past precedence , and need.

On volleytalk, someone posted whoever this rumored French ( or at least plays in France ) player is certainly an OH and one poster wrote ‘ she will be a problem ‘ - my take meaning for other teams to face. In fairness, another poster is indicating she’s not a good passer — frankly don’t care as much about her passing as we need an OH more than back row passing.

I’m trying to remember when we got Buzzerio , Serena , Bre , Leketor… but seems a high quality portal addition is likely - hopeful very high quality.

The other 2 spots are interesting. Smallwood switching her 26 commitment to Pitt makes me wonder if one of the 26 commits is coming early thus opening up room in the 26 class .

A flipped 25 commitment could also be a possibility. Maybe like last year we get two international players .

I’m assuming Griffin and Dinn won’t be here - they’ve been completely mia - not near the program at all it seems - not at the matches, at the Panther awards , but who knows.

Reading the Petrone insta tea leaves has one really elite 25 commitment elsewhere who I know Pitt was on still ( seems recently) trading follows along with the official team page and some Pitt players . That said - probably way too good be to true and almost certainly me just wish casting- lol.

Watching the PSU game again has me feeling bullish - we are ahead of where we were last Spring and feeling the MB are way ahead , our libero play might be marginally improved , Bayless may not be any drop off from Stafford , and I’m impressed by Gregoire . Olivia is a kin to having a #1 overall pick in the draft for football or basketball … setting I think will be fine - but will it be elite is a key piece for whether this is a good team or elite team. If we adequately fill out the roster we might not miss a beat —

Good discussion!
 
An international player and portal transfer almost seem like givens based on rumor , past precedence , and need.

On volleytalk, someone posted whoever this rumored French ( or at least plays in France ) player is certainly an OH and one poster wrote ‘ she will be a problem ‘ - my take meaning for other teams to face. In fairness, another poster is indicating she’s not a good passer — frankly don’t care as much about her passing as we need an OH more than back row passing.

I’m trying to remember when we got Buzzerio , Serena , Bre , Leketor… but seems a high quality portal addition is likely - hopeful very high quality.

The other 2 spots are interesting. Smallwood switching her 26 commitment to Pitt makes me wonder if one of the 26 commits is coming early thus opening up room in the 26 class .

A flipped 25 commitment could also be a possibility. Maybe like last year we get two international players .

I’m assuming Griffin and Dinn won’t be here - they’ve been completely mia - not near the program at all it seems - not at the matches, at the Panther awards , but who knows.

Reading the Petrone insta tea leaves has one really elite 25 commitment elsewhere who I know Pitt was on still ( seems recently) trading follows along with the official team page and some Pitt players . That said - probably way too good be to true and almost certainly me just wish casting- lol.

Watching the PSU game again has me feeling bullish - we are ahead of where we were last Spring and feeling the MB are way ahead , our libero play might be marginally improved , Bayless may not be any drop off from Stafford , and I’m impressed by Gregoire . Olivia is a kin to having a #1 overall pick in the draft for football or basketball … setting I think will be fine - but will it be elite is a key piece for whether this is a good team or elite team. If we adequately fill out the roster we might not miss a beat —

Good discussion!
Reading the Petrone insta tea leaves has one really elite 25 commitment elsewhere who I know Pitt was on still ( seems recently) trading follows along with the official team page and some Pitt players . That said - probably way too good be to true and almost certainly me just wish casting- lol.

I think I know who you are referring to.....but right now I'll call it just 'smoke'....no 'fire'. I agree it's best to just set it aside. Anyone that Pitt flips from a '25 commitment elsewhere should happen before the end of May. Like everyone else....the spring exhibitions results elevated my hope. The biggest concern is that with a thin roster Pitt is just 1 or 2 injuries away from a potential fall to mediocrity. Pitt needs roster depth to avoid that. Kelley, Dupes and Tautua'a have all gone through a medical redshirt and missed a whole season. Gregorie had a season ending ankle injury last November. I recall reading Mosher was playing hurt last year at Illinois. It can happen to anyone.
 
I don’t think losing Dinn and/or Griffin affects the team chemistry at all. Griffin only saw time as a server and that job appears to have been taken by Dupes. Remember that last year’s libero didn’t serve. Dinn didn’t receive any meaningful time.

We need another outside hitter. Whether from France or the portal doesn’t really matter. Wherever Fisher feels the need to bolster the squad beyond that I will trust in his decision.
If he wants a fifth OH or another S or a DS, he’s certainly earned the right to decide which.
 
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Bayless may not be any drop off from Stafford
Stafford was a first-team All-American and was the top-rated OH in the country according to Chad Gordon’s advanced stats. There is going to be a drop off. I am encouraged by Blaire’s spring too, but I’m sure the coaches don’t expect her to be Torrey and we shouldn’t either.
 
Griffin appears to be dating an all American player from UCLA. Wouldn’t be surprised to see her go back home to California.
 
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Reading the Petrone insta tea leaves has one really elite 25 commitment elsewhere who I know Pitt was on still ( seems recently) trading follows along with the official team page and some Pitt players . That said - probably way too good be to true and almost certainly me just wish casting- lol.

I think I know who you are referring to.....but right now I'll call it just 'smoke'....no 'fire'. I agree it's best to just set it aside. Anyone that Pitt flips from a '25 commitment elsewhere should happen before the end of May. Like everyone else....the spring exhibitions results elevated my hope. The biggest concern is that with a thin roster Pitt is just 1 or 2 injuries away from a potential fall to mediocrity. Pitt needs roster depth to avoid that. Kelley, Dupes and Tautua'a have all gone through a medical redshirt and missed a whole season. Gregorie had a season ending ankle injury last November. I recall reading Mosher was playing hurt last year at Illinois. It can happen to anyone.
Please elaborate on the 2025
 
Stafford was a first-team All-American and was the top-rated OH in the country according to Chad Gordon’s advanced stats. There is going to be a drop off. I am encouraged by Blaire’s spring too, but I’m sure the coaches don’t expect her to be Torrey and we shouldn’t either.
That’s certainly fair. But I think it’s important to remember Bayless was a top 50 recruit nationally- 5 star by most accounts- in same class with Stafford and Olivia. She’s in her 3rd year - she’s played internationally- all ACC and all American consideration isn’t out of the question for her .

Most importantly she stuck it out when I’m sure she could have transferred to a variety of very good programs . You can see she put the work in physically- I just think she’s positioned for a very productive year .
 
Please elaborate on the 2025
I was referring to Charlotte Glass - but that was pure wish casting speculation on my part based on instagram follows. In fairness , Glass follows a variety of programs on instagram- not just Pitt.
 
That’s certainly fair. But I think it’s important to remember Bayless was a top 50 recruit nationally- 5 star by most accounts- in same class with Stafford and Olivia. She’s in her 3rd year - she’s played internationally- all ACC and all American consideration isn’t out of the question for her .

Most importantly she stuck it out when I’m sure she could have transferred to a variety of very good programs . You can see she put the work in physically- I just think she’s positioned for a very productive year .
“Most importantly she stuck it out when I’m sure she could have transferred to a variety of very good programs……….You can see she put in the work physically.”
Kind of makes you really want to see her excel this year, doesn’t it? I ‘ll really be rooting for her, for her sake and the sake of the team.
 
I was referring to Charlotte Glass - but that was pure wish casting speculation on my part based on instagram follows. In fairness , Glass follows a variety of programs on instagram- not just Pitt.
I agree with @PittMBA. I first saw this as far back as December. We'll just wait and see......she's from Florida and committed to Duke last summer.
 
I don't see Fisher going all out to necessarily fill out five open spots. Besides Haiti, you have Mosher coming in at setter and Hoppe on the way.

I think Dupes is your Libero. If you lose Griffin, lets be honest, you can throw a rock into a crowd of 17 or 18 open players at a juniors tournament and hit someone who can play DS. And you still have Meyer.

If you're going to do anything, it's probably with an OH. Getting someone from Europe makes sense and you'll most likely get someone who can play defense since they don't have the sub rules we use for juniors. Would be nice to get another player for depth but you have so much game ready talent coming in next year, you don't want to clog up the roster.
 
I have a tough time keeping track with high school recruiting in this sport (and every other sport in this day and age) can someone summarize the HS commits for the class of 2025 and beyond?
 
I don’t think clogging up the roster is much of a problem anymore with the transfer portal. Look at Nebraska. They had six freshmen coming in last year, after recruiting 6 the year before. Three of those 2023 recruits transferred out, including the two who transferred to PSU. The third entered into the portal allegedly because Cook didn’t approve of her having her young child living with her in Lincoln because it would involve her missing too much practice.

I mean you always can get a player who just doesn’t want to leave even if it means never getting into a match. But, I think most players want to play and when they see the writing on the wall, they look elsewhere. Griffin might have personal reasons for leaving, and she is from Orange County, CA, but the fact that she isn’t going to ever play consistent minutes probably had an impact.

Bayliss has had limited playing time for two years, but Fisher helped get her experience with national youth teams and I think she understood even before Stafford left that she would get a lot of minutes this year. I am very happy that she stayed, but she saw a path to success here and was smart enough to stay on it.
 
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I have a tough time keeping track with high school recruiting in this sport (and every other sport in this day and age) can someone summarize the HS commits for the class of 2025 and beyond?
Here's what I have:

Class of 2025:
- Middle blocker Abbey Emch

Class of 2026:
- Outside/middle Jessica Smallwood
- Outside hitter Ayanna Watson
- Setter Isabelle Hoppe
- Libero Izzy Masten
- Libero/setter Trinity Thompson
- Outside hitter Lola Sageer

We won't have Class of 2027 commits until the contact period opens in June.
 
Here's what I have:

Class of 2025:
- Middle blocker Abbey Emch

Class of 2026:
- Outside/middle Jessica Smallwood
- Outside hitter Ayanna Watson
- Setter Isabelle Hoppe
- Libero Izzy Masten
- Libero/setter Trinity Thompson
- Outside hitter Lola Sageer

We won't have Class of 2027 commits until the contact period opens in June
Per Vball recruiter - their star ratings would be:
Class of 2025:
- Middle blocker Abbey Emch - 4 star

Class of 2026:
- Outside/middle Jessica Smallwood- 4 star
- Outside hitter Ayanna Watson - 5 star
- Setter Isabelle Hoppe - 4 star
- Libero Izzy Masten - 4 star
- Libero/setter Trinity Thompson - 3 star
- Outside hitter Lola Sageer - 3 star
 
I don’t think clogging up the roster is much of a problem anymore with the transfer portal. Look at Nebraska. They had six freshmen coming in last year, after recruiting 6 the year before. Three of those 2023 recruits transferred out, including the two who transferred to PSU. The third entered into the portal allegedly because Cook didn’t approve of her having her young child living with her in Lincoln because it would involve her missing too much practice.

I mean you always can get a player who just doesn’t want to leave even if it means never getting into a match. But, I think most players want to play and when they see the writing on the wall, they look elsewhere. Griffin might have personal reasons for leaving, and she is from Orange County, CA, but the fact that she isn’t going to ever play consistent minutes probably had an impact.

Bayliss has had limited playing time for two years, but Fisher helped get her experience with national youth teams and I think she understood even before Stafford left that she would get a lot of minutes this year. I am very happy that she stayed, but she saw a path to success here and was smart enough to stay on it.
I don't disagree but as a coach, you don't want to get the reputation that you're over-recruiting and forcibly pushing people out all the time. We see that wearing thin at Texas, for instance, where they brought in a bunch of middles last year. Roster limits are also a thing.
 
I don't see Fisher going all out to necessarily fill out five open spots. Besides Haiti, you have Mosher coming in at setter and Hoppe on the way.

I think Dupes is your Libero. If you lose Griffin, lets be honest, you can throw a rock into a crowd of 17 or 18 open players at a juniors tournament and hit someone who can play DS. And you still have Meyer.

If you're going to do anything, it's probably with an OH. Getting someone from Europe makes sense and you'll most likely get someone who can play defense since they don't have the sub rules we use for juniors. Would be nice to get another player for depth but you have so much game ready talent coming in next year, you don't want to clog up the roster.
Help me with the math here. I hear what you're saying about Griffin....and I agree. Dinn was injured as a freshman.....we know very little about her....so her departure in 2025 would not represent a blow to the team. Their departures reduce the roster to 11 athletes. You said 'finding another OH' is a need. Everyone agrees. Finally.....you said 'it would be nice to get another player for depth'. I assume you mean another OH. That brings the roster back to 13. Are you satisfied with that....a roster of 13 athletes for the 2025 season?

2 DS/L
4 OH
2 S
1 RS
4 MB
_________
13 TOTAL
 
Help me with the math here. I hear what you're saying about Griffin....and I agree. Dinn was injured as a freshman.....we know very little about her....so her departure in 2025 would not represent a blow to the team. Their departures reduce the roster to 11 athletes. You said 'finding another OH' is a need. Everyone agrees. Finally.....you said 'it would be nice to get another player for depth'. I assume you mean another OH. That brings the roster back to 13. Are you satisfied with that....a roster of 13 athletes for the 2025 season?

2 DS/L
4 OH
2 S
1 RS
4 MB
_________
13 TOTAL
Kind of depends on what system they ultimately run but you could roll with that if you needed to. You have to keep in mind that these girls have played multiple positions in club and school depending on need and injury. My kid is working up to playing her third position in 9 months entering her junior year.

I wouldn't write off Griffin as she saw action in 80 sets last year but like I said, you can find defensive players and you can always turn an OH into a DS. Technically, there isn't anyone else behind Babcock except Dinn and I would be shocked if Olivia doesn't go pro after the season. Remember, everyone thought Cat was gone last year and then she wasn't. I know that was different but volleyball transfers aren't quite the same animal as other sports.
 
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Kind of depends on what system they ultimately run but you could roll with that if you needed to. You have to keep in mind that these girls have played multiple positions in club and school depending on need and injury. My kid is working up to playing her third position in 9 months entering her junior year.

I wouldn't write off Griffin as she saw action in 80 sets last year but like I said, you can find defensive players and you can always turn an OH into a DS. Technically, there isn't anyone else behind Babcock except Dinn and I would be shocked if Olivia doesn't go pro after the season. Remember, everyone thought Cat was gone last year and then she wasn't. I know that was different but volleyball transfers aren't quite the same animal as other sports.
Not questioning your take on Olivia going pro after this season- but is that common in WVB for players to turn pro early ? Doesn’t seem like you see that very often - perhaps I’m wrong.

With NIL- I wonder if Olivia can make more money in college than playing professionally.
 
Kind of depends on what system they ultimately run but you could roll with that if you needed to. You have to keep in mind that these girls have played multiple positions in club and school depending on need and injury. My kid is working up to playing her third position in 9 months entering her junior year.

I wouldn't write off Griffin as she saw action in 80 sets last year but like I said, you can find defensive players and you can always turn an OH into a DS. Technically, there isn't anyone else behind Babcock except Dinn and I would be shocked if Olivia doesn't go pro after the season. Remember, everyone thought Cat was gone last year and then she wasn't. I know that was different but volleyball transfers aren't quite the same animal as other sports.
Regarding Olivia's position, Abbey Emch played that position in some of her Crestview High School game films that I watched.

Just saying...
 
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Kind of depends on what system they ultimately run but you could roll with that if you needed to. You have to keep in mind that these girls have played multiple positions in club and school depending on need and injury. My kid is working up to playing her third position in 9 months entering her junior year.

I wouldn't write off Griffin as she saw action in 80 sets last year but like I said, you can find defensive players and you can always turn an OH into a DS. Technically, there isn't anyone else behind Babcock except Dinn and I would be shocked if Olivia doesn't go pro after the season. Remember, everyone thought Cat was gone last year and then she wasn't. I know that was different but volleyball transfers aren't quite the same animal as other sports.
Your comment reminded me that although Fisher, et al started 2024 with a roster of 16 athletes.....he actually only had 14....Dinn and Tautua'a out the whole campaign with injuries. In the top ten final rankings for 2024 only Kentucky and Nebraska....along with Pitt....had a roster that small. Most of the others dressed 16 athletes for their matches. If you only have 14 athletes to play....they better be damn good.....Pitt and Nebraska were damn good. I really would be very surprised if Fisher, et all will be content with 13 players....and I doubt any D1 volleyball team has a roster that small. I think 2 more at OH and 1 more L/DS makes sense. That would at least bring the roster up to 14.....assuming Dinn and Griffin are gone. Time will tell....so now we just wait.

Side note.....appreciate the update on your daughter's volleyball journey. In a year....she'll be deciding where to play college volleyball. Keep us apprised.....and all the best to her!
 
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Per Vball recruiter - their star ratings would be:
Class of 2025:
- Middle blocker Abbey Emch - 4 star

Class of 2026:
- Outside/middle Jessica Smallwood- 4 star
- Outside hitter Ayanna Watson - 5 star
- Setter Isabelle Hoppe - 4 star
- Libero Izzy Masten - 4 star
- Libero/setter Trinity Thompson - 3 star
- Outside hitter Lola Sageer - 3 star
 
Not questioning your take on Olivia going pro after this season- but is that common in WVB for players to turn pro early ? Doesn’t seem like you see that very often - perhaps I’m wrong.

With NIL- I wonder if Olivia can make more money in college than playing professionally.
This isn't a given but the thought is that the US National Team would like her to have enough international experience prior to the 2028 olympic cycle that she could compete for a position. Of course, she doesn't absolutely need two years but the game is a bit different than college.

Making the roster plus whatever she makes as a pro and of course any endorsements, it's not a bad way to live. But you're not wrong, either.
 
Regarding Olivia's position, Abbey Emch played that position in some of her Crestview High School game films that I watched.

Just saying...
Middles who can serve well play opposite, too, and Abbey has played there. Opposite is more about the different timing. It's wild how some of the righties struggle with it. She played some outside, too, btw.
 
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Side note.....appreciate the update on your daughter's volleyball journey. In a year....she'll be deciding where to play college volleyball. Keep us apprised.....and all the best to her!
Thank you. She just ended her club season and is complaining that she doesn't have anything to look forward to. Track is a nice diversion but she's been lifting after practice and is eager to heal up a little and get back into training. Sometimes pulling on the reins a little is a dad's hardest job. She really hasn't started contacting coaches but that will be on the to-do list. She plays in a summer league that gets some looks and she knows some girls that are already on rosters or will be on roster are encouraging her. I think she's a pretty solid D3 prospect due to her size, grades, and ability, so we'll see. She's helped by the fact that her club employs several college coaches so they can give her a pretty honest evaluation along with the right references.
 
Someone on VT says its confirmed that Masten is reclassifying. If that is true, I've heard she's supposed to be a big time libero, is this a scenario where'd she come in and compete to start right away/potentially push dupes to be a serving/DS?
 
Someone on VT says its confirmed that Masten is reclassifying. If that is true, I've heard she's supposed to be a big time libero, is this a scenario where'd she come in and compete to start right away/potentially push dupes to be a serving/DS?
I'll wait and see what actually happens (I'm still very skeptical that she's going to reclassify) but I don't think it's a given that she'd take the Libero jersey.
 
I'll wait and see what actually happens (I'm still very skeptical that she's going to reclassify) but I don't think it's a given that she'd take the Libero jersey.
Maybe the push for her to reclassify is further evidence of one or both of Griffin and Dinn transferring.
 
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I'll wait and see what actually happens (I'm still very skeptical that she's going to reclassify) but I don't think it's a given that she'd take the Libero jersey.
She’s also an OH -
 
She’s also an OH -
Almost all of them are, at some point. Especially when it comes to school ball. I'd run Brooke Mosher at OH before I'd use a 5'8" freshman. Brooke had almost 2,000 kills in HS and started her college career as an OH.

Run a system with Mosher setting out of the back row and hitting in the front? Wouldn't that be wild?
 
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Almost all of them are, at some point. Especially when it comes to school ball. I'd run Brooke Mosher at OH before I'd use a 5'8" freshman. Brooke had almost 2,000 kills in HS and started her college career as an OH.

Run a system with Mosher setting out of the back row and hitting in the front? Wouldn't that be wild?
Am I crazy or didn't they kinda do that with Rachel her freshman year? Akeo was the other setter right
 
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