I dont think Jamie has a choice but to make a move and try something different at the SG position. It has been beyond awful. What do you think?
What would YOU do at the 2?
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When Smith actually shoots, he usually scores, and Pitt wins. Get him the ball more and tell Robinson not to shoot and I think we'd be surprised at how much better we'd be. I also think Cam should be getting a good bit of time off the bench at the 2 position. If Artis plays the 2 though and the other team has a 2 guard that can score, it's almost a guarantee he'll score 30 against Jamel. His defense is pathetic.
Agree with this. Not sure why Smith is so tentative when it comes to taking the outside jumper. He hasn't been incredibly consistent from the outside, but he poses a bigger threat than Robinson. Hell, I would allow Robinson to take 15+ foot jump shots all day, while protecting the court against Artis and Young.
this really is a fallacy about how great of an outside shooter Smith is and he needs to shoot more. Yes he is a good outside shooter but only when he has a good bit of open space and time to set up and get off his shot. He can knock them down at a good % when he receives the ball not closely guarded and has time to setup up with his feet and get of an uncontested shot. But that really should be the case for any average to above average D1 shooting guard.
I think Sterling is really limited though in that he can't take the ball and get an open shot on his own, or get a shot off quickly. When he is rushed or contested taking a shot, it really looks bad, unfortunately, as bad and off the mark as a number of James outside shots.
There was a thread a day or two ago comparing Sterling's outside shooting skills to Ashton, Ramon and/or Jason Matthews. I'm sorry, but I just don't see it because they could work to get their own shot and get it off quickly. I don't see that with Sterling.
So, yeah, Sterling should shoot more. But only when the offense can run a set and get him out in open space where he can receive the ball and have time to set up and get off an uncontested shot.
[QUOTE="Pittx9, post: 942468, member: 15348"If Artis plays the 2 though and the other team has a 2 guard that can score, it's almost a guarantee he'll score 30 against Jamel. His defense is pathetic.[/QUOTE]
People go for 30 on us every night and its rarely Jamel guarding them. You put Robinson on the best scorer and Artis on the guy who doesnt score as much. If Jamel is a 1 (1 to 10 scale) on D, Smith is a 3, Jones a 4, and Robinson a 6 so its not like you are giving a lot up.
People go for 30 on us every night and its rarely Jamel guarding them. You put Robinson on the best scorer and Artis on the guy who doesnt score as much. If Jamel is a 1 (1 to 10 scale) on D, Smith is a 3, Jones a 4, and Robinson a 6 so its not like you are giving a lot up.
There's a lot of areas besides the 2 that need work LOL. But since the OP asked about the 2...I'd try
a number of things.
- First and foremost, I'd limit Robinson to managing the O (he does that pretty well).
- Next, Jones would hardly ever get off the bench (for the umpteenth time...he is
not ACC level, maybe MAC). I watched ST. Bonaventure and ST. Louis yesterday
and Jones wouldn't start for either. (But on the other hand, our Bigs wouldn't start for Kent ST.) LOL
- Next, as other posters said....Smith would be made to shoot OR sit (right next to Jones).
- I'd have Wilson play more time at the 2 (he's a very good athlete and IMO, not a pg).
- I'd try Artis at the 2, but go zone on D when he was at the 2 because of his awful man to man D.
( this isn't as crazy as it sounds, because IMO, he's our best outside shooter and this threat
would open the floor up more for Young on the inside). Not sure how this would play out
but I'd give it a try. Would have to find a 3 when Artis goes to the 2, Jeter is a possibility as is
Cam. I know, I know, Jeter has no handle...but hey, when you're desperate....
- While doing all of this, I'd get Luther out of the lane and NEVER at Center. Luther has a decent shot
and he could sub for Young.
- A lot of this is speculation, but I would try SOMETHING. What
Jamie is living with is not working against good ACC teams. OH, yeah, I almost forgot....I'd recruit
a pure shooting 2. Every team, even lower level D1 teams have at least one.
a number of things.
- First and foremost, I'd limit Robinson to managing the O (he does that pretty well).
- Next, Jones would hardly ever get off the bench (for the umpteenth time...he is
not ACC level, maybe MAC). I watched ST. Bonaventure and ST. Louis yesterday
and Jones wouldn't start for either. (But on the other hand, our Bigs wouldn't start for Kent ST.) LOL
- Next, as other posters said....Smith would be made to shoot OR sit (right next to Jones).
- I'd have Wilson play more time at the 2 (he's a very good athlete and IMO, not a pg).
- I'd try Artis at the 2, but go zone on D when he was at the 2 because of his awful man to man D.
( this isn't as crazy as it sounds, because IMO, he's our best outside shooter and this threat
would open the floor up more for Young on the inside). Not sure how this would play out
but I'd give it a try. Would have to find a 3 when Artis goes to the 2, Jeter is a possibility as is
Cam. I know, I know, Jeter has no handle...but hey, when you're desperate....
- While doing all of this, I'd get Luther out of the lane and NEVER at Center. Luther has a decent shot
and he could sub for Young.
- A lot of this is speculation, but I would try SOMETHING. What
Jamie is living with is not working against good ACC teams. OH, yeah, I almost forgot....I'd recruit
a pure shooting 2. Every team, even lower level D1 teams have at least one.
Sterling Smith is only a catch and shoot guy. When your point guard is unable to ever get to the paint and draw defenders away from smith he will be ineffective. And when Robinson does get to the paint he rarely kicks it to the open wing or corner, happened several times against uva.
I'd play Johnson - let him stand there like Rowan and let him shoot at will...like Rowan and just hope his length can produce some turnovers on the defensive side.
I mean, who knows - Jones...nope - Smith too inconsistent - what do we have to lose (except more games I suppose) starting Cam.
I mean, who knows - Jones...nope - Smith too inconsistent - what do we have to lose (except more games I suppose) starting Cam.
Give Wilson more time at the 2. He's still pretty raw but has the ability to beat defenders off the dribble, which pretty much no one else does.
People go for 30 on us every night and its rarely Jamel guarding them. You put Robinson on the best scorer and Artis on the guy who doesnt score as much. If Jamel is a 1 (1 to 10 scale) on D, Smith is a 3, Jones a 4, and Robinson a 6 so its not like you are giving a lot up.[/QUOTE]
I like that idea, but Smith is nowhere as bad of a defender as people think he is. I will say though, as bad as Jones is, he's been somewhat steady as a defender.
You've been paying attention to my suggestions!! Now, I'll have to begin doubting them!!
should have been working on a 1-3-1 zone with trapping principles since practice started. Robinson out top, Jeter running the baseline with Artis and Young on wings with Maia/Luther in middle.
You put your longest, most athletic player at the top of the 1-3-1, probably Jeter. Your smallest guy is usually on the baseline with the opposite wing dropping down to help cover that area. That sais, the 1-3-1 takes a lot of work. Its something they would have had to started practicing in the summer.
I'd like to see more of Cam at the two as well, along with some of Damon Wilson, and even Sterling Smith in the mix at times. Sterling has proven he can be effective. I just don't know why it so black or white with him.
The kid seems overwhelmed against better opponents. Trigger-shy, not trigger happy. His rebounding helps, though. He's a disappointment so far. Wilson, to me, is more suited to a 3-guard offense. Doesn't really look to shoot or penetrate (2g??), a bit loose with the ball (PG??). Very athletic and fast. I see a lot of similarities to Wannamaker. If he improves as much as Brad did, he'll be really valuable.
My reaction to Wilson is similar to yours- not really sure what guard position he's suited to play. That troubles me....
Don't disagree but we all said the same things about Brad as a frosh ... Even for the first half of his soph year too.
Wilson does remind me of Brad. Not a great shooter, not a great handle, but can make plays. Wilson makes a lot of mistakes but he also tries to make plays. I'd rather see him out there than Smith and Jones.
I agree. Play Wilson more and live with the down side in the hopes that it leads to more upside in the future.
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