I still it a Toss Up Game always and every game just like CUSE or WVU! This season is not over, and wait on recruiting and coaching changes now?Will that send Franklin packing?
Losing hurts, but losing to your primary rival is unforgivable when you haven't played them in 16 years.
Will that send Franklin packing?
Losing hurts, but losing to your primary rival is unforgivable when you haven't played them in 16 years.
And firing franklin would be a brilliant move
By the WA you're definition of brilliant move is nuts... it put Pitt is a tailspin
Will that send Franklin packing?
Losing hurts, but losing to your primary rival is unforgivable when you haven't played them in 16 years.
Did you really use "primary rival" and "haven't played them in 16 years" to reference the same opponent?
Pitt-PSU is only a rivalry in the minds of a few old farts. (Full disclosure: I am an old fart, a PSU fan who also likes to see Pitt do well, but don't consider this a rivalry. That died more than a decade ago.)
My best guess is there are no athletic administrators at either school who have been a part of a PSU-Pitt game. Nobody on either coaching staff. Few if any players who had even reached first grade the last time they played.
I think it has the potential to be an interesting series the next few years, but I would prefer both schools to rotate lots of other national schools (SEC, Pac-12, Big 12, etc) on their schedules rather than make this long term.
Safety Blitz, Just the fact that you are on a Pitt board is evidence that its still a rivalry.
Safety Blitz, Just the fact that you are on a Pitt board is evidence that its still a rivalry.
"Safety Blitz, post: 574460, member: 7179"]Did you really use "primary rival" and "haven't played them in 16 years" to reference the same opponent?
The Rivalry is still alive, the games ended by one pure Ego Driven Old Fart, that later left Penn State Name in Shame with a Scandal that revealed the old Fart was not following all the Rules, Compliances, and Laws?
Pitt-PSU is only a rivalry in the minds of a few old farts. (Full disclosure: I am an old fart, a PSU fan who also likes to see Pitt do well, but don't consider this a rivalry. That died more than a decade ago.)
Nope, disagree, today a day or week does not go by without the Schools being mentioned on BWI, Lair, and Mountaineers Message Boards, Coaches bring it up, and more Fans still want to play each other than the few that don't.
My best guess is there are no athletic administrators at either school who have been a part of a PSU-Pitt game. Nobody on either coaching staff. Few if any players who had even reached first grade the last time they played.
Well, O'Brien said they should play when he was hired, Narduzzi mentioned it, Holgrosen mentioned it? Franklin mentioned it?
I think it has the potential to be an interesting series the next few years, but I would prefer both schools to rotate lots of other national schools (SEC, Pac-12, Big 12, etc) on their schedules rather than make this long term.
Not me, and that is where we can agree to disagree!
Did you really use "primary rival" and "haven't played them in 16 years" to reference the same opponent?
Pitt-PSU is only a rivalry in the minds of a few old farts. (Full disclosure: I am an old fart, a PSU fan who also likes to see Pitt do well, but don't consider this a rivalry. That died more than a decade ago.)
My best guess is there are no athletic administrators at either school who have been a part of a PSU-Pitt game. Nobody on either coaching staff. Few if any players who had even reached first grade the last time they played.
I think it has the potential to be an interesting series the next few years, but I would prefer both schools to rotate lots of other national schools (SEC, Pac-12, Big 12, etc) on their schedules rather than make this long term.
TD...I'm on the Pitt board because I really like college football. I've attended an equal number of Pitt games as I have PSU games over the past 20 years. (That's an approximate. I don't have an exact count, but it is very close.) And I'm on the Pitt board because I find some good football discussion here. I try to be respectful while typing my opinions or comments. (Not saying I don't cross a line once in a while, but I try hard not to do that both here and on the BWI board.) I don't like PSU fans who come to this board to spew crap, nor do I like it when Pitt fans do the same on the BWI board. Most people I've met at Pitt and PSU events are very nice, treat me with respect, and enjoy good conversations. We agree on many things, and agree to disagree on others.
PSU often played WVU back in the day. I would never consider it a rivalry today. PSU played Syracuse every year for a long, long time. That ended and nobody would call it a rivalry today. Heck, PSU and Temple have played for many years and I don't think either school considers it a rivalry. Just my opinion. I know it is shared by many of my PSU friends. It's in no way a slight toward Pitt. Times have changed.
So what constitutes a rival then? Obviously not how often or recently you've played.
If Army didn't play Navy for ten years would they still be rivals?
Did you really use "primary rival" and "haven't played them in 16 years" to reference the same opponent?
Pitt-PSU is only a rivalry in the minds of a few old farts. (Full disclosure: I am an old fart, a PSU fan who also likes to see Pitt do well, but don't consider this a rivalry. That died more than a decade ago.)
My best guess is there are no athletic administrators at either school who have been a part of a PSU-Pitt game. Nobody on either coaching staff. Few if any players who had even reached first grade the last time they played.
I think it has the potential to be an interesting series the next few years, but I would prefer both schools to rotate lots of other national schools (SEC, Pac-12, Big 12, etc) on their schedules rather than make this long term.
"Safety Blitz, post: 574568, member: 7179"]Capt. Sid....I will agree to agree to disagree. That works for me. Personally, I would enjoy the opportunity to go to State College or Heinz Field to see teams like Florida, Bama, LSU, Texas, Notre Dame, TCU, Oklahoma, UCLA, Oregon, Boise State.
Well, many of them above have In-State Rivalries even while being other conferences. History matters too, and Pitt has a longer history with Penn State, First Radio Broadcasts with WVU History, and 5th Historical rival with Notre Dame.
Better than those above and those above can still be scheduled as well over SDSU, Army, YSU, Akron, Buffalo, Georgia State, Kent State, Appalachian State, or Villanova all that are on the future Pitt-Penn State Schedules. As well as, Liberty or Georgia Southern for WVU!
Many on the Lair don't want to play Penn State either due to the what happen to children at Penn State and ignored by Paterno! I agree to disagree with them as well with due respect too!
If that means no Pitt-PSU game, I'll make that trade in a heartbeat. I can go see Pitt and PSU whenever I feel like it. (I usually go to two or three games between the two schools each season.) I've seen ND in person once. I've never seen those other schools play.
Well, that floats your boat so be it, but the website is still called RIVALS, and regardless of what you think or say, WVU, PITT, and Penn State are still RIVALS on Boards, and Field when they play!
I am invited and have traveled to ND, USC, PSU, WVU, UVA, OHIO STATE, STANFORD, ARIZONA, MICHIGAN, and TEMPLE Games too, and had great times because of the people I am with that teach me and share about their Programs.
I am always asked why Pitt-Penn State don't play anymore, I just say, Paterno, and they look at me and say, Oh, say no more?
So what constitutes a rival then? Obviously not how often or recently you've played.
Franklin is recruiting way too well to be let go anytime soon. Even if he is 2-10 next year, he gets a 4th year to see what his recruits can do. And he wont go 2-10.
Franklin is going to be very Wanny-like. Recruit well but cant coach. Lots of 8-4 and 7-5s but will that be enough?
PSU has 5 built-in wins every year so 7-5 is really the worst they can do.
The number on the ID was 1-800-560-1637 of the Lasch Building Showers, near the Cult Ward so just turn around ask some of your friends right there in the Computer Room?Captain, What facility is your friend located and how many phone calls is allowed per day? Is he allowed to dial the numbers himself or does the orderly do it for him?
My Friend did tell me Penn State's Computer System had Virus Problems recently paid over $2 million to get rid of them, cost less than Franklin's Losses. I said that was far less than they paid the Victims and Defense Fees still sky high!I don't think Franklin will be in trouble after we beat them next year. That fan base will come up with any rationale they need (perhaps waiting for women's v-ball season?) to keep from admitting Pitt should get credit. They'll blame the NCAA, refs, ESPN, McQueary, Primanti's, NASA, whatever...
I know, you said it depended on the OL to see how good or bad they may be this year. You were correct!I assure you I didn't pick the Nits to win 10 games. I've been pretty consistent in what I think of PSU's situation. They stink and there isn't a quick fix. I expect the Nits to win somewhere between 5 and 7 games next year. 2017 is the year they should start to show some improvement.