True, but it makes you look pretty bad to say you want things done but you aren't willing to do anything to help.
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True, but it makes you look pretty bad to say you want things done but you aren't willing to do anything to help.
Pitt Stadium still existed, but very little had been to done improve it. Even in its last year, the press box looked like it was built by some suburban DIY/Home Depot weekend warrior.
Partly because we change coaches like it's a bodily function. Recruiting at a school like Pitt is all about building relationships. Coaching staff changes kill any momentum and goodwill that gets built up, and it's a total do over every two years. Wanny recruited ok. I think Todd may have too had he not beat it so quick.
None of that would guarantee winning. If it were that easy, then every school would do that. Pitt will never be a blue blood by doing that. Ever.
Narduzzi has a signature win over a top 10 team,Psu.They was a very good win by him and his staff.He needed it badly for recruiting purposes and for the media and fans.I said it then and I'm saying it now I think he put to much emphasis on that game.He threw everything he had at Psu and left nothing in the bank for later.He got what he wanted and it was a huge win for Pitt!The question was with me why he didn't keep a few things in his back pocket for later conference games.I got ridiculed on here for that statement.I think James from State College keep a few plays in his pocket and used them later,that helped him win a couple of conference games.Darduzzi wanted Psu at all cost and my hards off to him,he beat Franklins butt.Caught Psu's DC off guard in the first half with all the motion,jetsweeps,shovel passes and he clobbered them!And Darduzzi got his signature win way back in early September, he just didn't know it back then!bwdik
If every major D1 school applied what he is saying, we would be no better off than where we are today. He's over-simplifying a complex thing into "buying hookers for players makes you better", when there is no proof that is true. You still need to get the right staff, the right players, etc. If the top schools are doing that already, and have a long history of doing that and getting top kids, what Pitt would do would not be nearly enough to get to the same level. The gap is too wide that buying a few hookers would make no difference at all, at the risk to someone's reputation.
OK, but I honestly don't care what anyone thinks. Do you think all the 'Bama fans or tOSU or ND fans all donate money and go to every game before they speak up on message boards, LOL.
PITT should be a strong recruiting team since it has a lot to sell to recruits.
When you sell things you have to know what value the product that you're selling brings to the customer.
You also have to know what your customers want. I would guess most college recruits are interested in an NFL paycheck any way they can get it as fast as they can get it.
Being on a team in the college football playoffs and not playing cant be all that important. Similarly being on a team that draws huge crowds and not playing shouldn't be important either.
PITT football should emphasize:
- great academics /great U
- nice small city atomosphere with lots of things to do
- ACC sports
- if you're good you play early and have a shot at the NFL early without the risk of sitting for years and maybe not playing
- you get to play the same stadium as an NFL team, share quality facilities, and meet the players and coaches
- be part of a program that should improve every year
- many PITT players are now playing in the NFL who might have stuggled had they
played at other U's ( not Fitz & Revis types but other players).
Push this stuff. Its hard to believe we don't do better!
PS- If this doesn't work over time take the Pitt79 low road including the cheating on academics and hiring hookers! If you cant beat them join them.
When you sell things you have to know what value the product that you're selling brings to the customer.
You also have to know what your customers want. I would guess most college recruits are interested in an NFL paycheck any way they can get it as fast as they can get it.
Being on a team in the college football playoffs and not playing cant be all that important. Similarly being on a team that draws huge crowds and not playing shouldn't be important either.
PITT football should emphasize:
- great academics /great U
- nice small city atomosphere with lots of things to do
- ACC sports
- if you're good you play early and have a shot at the NFL early without the risk of sitting for years and maybe not playing
- you get to play the same stadium as an NFL team, share quality facilities, and meet the players and coaches
- be part of a program that should improve every year
- many PITT players are now playing in the NFL who might have stuggled had they
played at other U's ( not Fitz & Revis types but other players).
Push this stuff. Its hard to believe we don't do better!
PS- If this doesn't work over time take the Pitt79 low road including the cheating on academics and hiring hookers! If you cant beat them join them.
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Wouldn't hurt, I'd gladly take a few 12 or 13 win seasons, or even a VACATED trip to the final 4 even if it wasn't bing a "blue blood".
Prove it. Show me a link or some other proof that correlates winning to hiring prostitutes. If all the top schools are doing that, as you seem to think, then how is Pitt positively differentiated from those top schools that you claim cheat. We'd still be Pitt.
You can't prove something like this, you just try it and see what happens, take a shot.
The prostitute thing, wasn't that Louisville basketball?
I'm not talking about specific things, just do what other's are willing to do to win. One legal means is set the standard for player admissions at the NCAA MINIMUM for grades and SAT scores etc. Why not? THAT IS LEGAL! Why pass on a stud player you could get legally?
If Pitt and a big IF is serious in power 5 football then an on-campus stadium will eventually come. I truly believe the atmosphere at Heinz hurts Pitt more than it helps.
Long before? He become Chancellor in 95.
And Pitt Stadium was allowed to turn into a state of disrepair.... by the administration.
Coaches were allowed to leave without an effort to keep them... by the administration.
People didn't go to Pitt Stadium because the administration didn't make an effort to make Pitt games a place people wanted to be. The stadium stunk and eventually because of the administration the team stunk. And the idea that attendance is greatly improved at Heinz compared to the glory years at Pitt Stadium is wrong.
I don't know? I've seen conversations where people claim that we wouldn't take some of the "students" that a Louisville or Florida State would take because of their poor academics. My question is this, Pitt has like 30,000 students, so it 29,800 of them have 1200+ SAT scores, and half the football and basketball team are at 800 or less, so how the hell does that ruin our academics? TAKE ANYBODY THAT GETS THE MINIMUM IF THEY CAN BALL.
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Let's compare the attendance numbers from 1976 and 2015:
PITT Stadium/Game Attendance in 1997:
38500
34000
42434
50399
45753
56500
Average Attendance/Game: 44597.67
Stadium Capacity: 56500
% of stadium capacity attended: 78.93%
Heinz Field/Game Attendance in 2015:
49969
45237
43049
68400
42119
40126
Average Attendance/Game: 48150
Stadium Capacity: 68400
% of stadium capacity attended: 70.39%
As you can see by the numbers, the difference is not all that great between the attendance % based on stadium capacity in 1976 vs. the numbers from last year when PITT was heading into another season with yet another coach.
to me, the thing that sums it up about Pitt stadium and attendance is that the next to the last game in stadium history against Miami and with a decent team still drew less than 40k. So that kind of blows out of the water the need for an on-campus stadium to help attendance. The best thing, as Paul Zeise has stated many times, is win some key games and get the casual yinzer fan interested again.
I was pleased with last years recruiting (we closed strong)
We will need to close strong again this season to match last year
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Feeling pretty good about Pitt's chances with Wade after reading his father's comments about their PSU visit. LINK
Sounds like a "thanks, but no thanks" situation for the nitters. This recruitment is starting to resemble Hamlin's from last fall.
I'm still a little nervous about TENN's chances but who knows after the dumpster fire that ignited down there recently.
Sounds like a "thanks, but no thanks" situation for the nitters. This recruitment is starting to resemble Hamlin's from last fall.
I'm still a little nervous about TENN's chances but who knows after the dumpster fire that ignited down there recently.
Not really how I took it at all. He said a bunch of positive things about Penn State and even mentioned that winning this year and probably being highly ranked next year could be big factors for Lamont. How does that make you feel good about Pitt's chances?
I hope you are in agreement, because your data seems to support my statement.
I am, the percentages line up very well. There are just so many statements made on this forum without any information to back up the claims, so I added some fuel to your fire if needed.
It looks like he is keeping everything close to the vest still, which speaks volumes as to how well the Wade family have handled his recruitment. A very positive and respectful interview to the school.
I agree. I don't think that interview says anything one way or the other about where Wade is leaning. His dad seems like a good guy.
He has handled this period, which is incredibly stressful, with nothing but class. His recruitment definitely reminds me of the Hamlin family and how they went about their business of trying to find the school that best fits their child's goals.
That's not necessarily true. Of the losses last year, with the exception of Iowa who is a balanced team and Navy who had a generational talent at QB the secondary got lit up. It came in the form of UNC's record setting qb, Will Fuller at Notre Dame and Brad Kayya. It just looks much worse this year because more guys on the schedule this year have exploited the pass much more often.
That's great, then why do some people seem to insinuate that we won't take some of the players, WVU, Louisville or FSU would take? Or they just don't know what they're talking about?
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