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Why does the PIAA play state championships during the school day?

OH! PSU built the stadium, much to the chagrin of a former head football coach, so I assume they get the revenue. Pretty sure the pro baseball team is pretty far down the line if it's still playing there.
Ok. I remember thinking that it had more of a minor league feel and was struck by the lack of PSU signage.
 
I'll be honest, I've never been in that stadium but I sort of remember the backstory from when it was built. What they had previously was similar to a decent Legion field so it was a decent upgrade.
It’s nice. Way too big for PSU baseball.
 
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Basically the games are on school days since all of the “fake” Philly schools are not actual schools nor do they have real classes
 
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I'll be honest, I've never been in that stadium but I sort of remember the backstory from when it was built. What they had previously was similar to a decent Legion field so it was a decent upgrade.

Some former baseball player turned rich guy built it I think. It was built primarily for a Single A baseball team but the beauty of that is that MLB stripped them of their Single A status and now they are just a "summer league" for current college players and lower-level players who just graduated. Funny thing is I can repeat this exact story, almost verbatim for Morgantown/WVU, who also lost their Single A team
 
Do they have anything? I never heard of them.
It is Fulton county, you can see it from they turnpike, it would be to your left if eastbound, if you’re west bound you can easily miss it as blocked out by a couple barns. Lol. They have a few sports
 
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They don't even need 12k seats. Hershey would be the best venue if they would only renovate the locker rooms. Shippensburg is the closest DII school and it stadium is actually smaller than CV high school stadium (7,700 vs 8,045) and doesn't have a video board.
Video boards feel like an incredible waste of money for high school stadiums. I've only been to one where they broadcast the game and show replays, but I find it hard to imagine the school will generate enough from sponsorship deals to ever pay for them.
 
The field is turf. Games are lightly attended. What is the purpose of playing on Thursday and Friday afternoons? Games should be at 5 and 8 on Friday and 11, 2, 5, 8 on Saturday. Or here is an absolutely crazy thought. Play some games on Sunday instead of during 7th period Geometry.
So the games start at 11,2,5, & 8? What about if a couple games go OT?
Back in 2002 North Hills-Woodland Hills AAAA Championship game didn't start till almost 10pm.
BTW who cares if they play Thursday or Friday afternoon?
 
Cumberland and Lancaster are the fastest-growing counties in the state. The whole Harrisburg/Lancaster area is basically becoming an exurb of Philadelphia.
Sweet How long til the homelessness and Murders Start. Thats when you are big time when some young males jump out of a car and start shooting in the middle of the day!!!
 
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They don't even need 12k seats. Hershey would be the best venue if they would only renovate the locker rooms. Shippensburg is the closest DII school and it stadium is actually smaller than CV high school stadium (7,700 vs 8,045) and doesn't have a video board.
Why do lockerrooms need renovated for a single game?
Sheesh
 
Man you are showing your ignorance. Cumberland county was the fastest growing county in the last census gaining 12.2% and added 28,133 people which is more than Allegheny county gained. Most of western PA counties like Westmoreland lost population. The entire Pittsburgh metropolitan area lost 2,733 people. The Harrisburg-Carlisle, PA Metropolitan Statistical Area is the 98th largest in the United States. The Combined Statistical Area is the 43rd largest in the United State. As far as three hours from nowhere...Baltimore is 1,5 hours away, Philadelphia and Washington DC is 2 hours away.
That’s amazing
Cumberland Valley will soon have a population close to 1,500!

Since that’s the only thing relevant - not the county where folks aren’t at
 
Was just at this HS campus when the granddaughter's team won the PIAA volleyball title.
That place is impressive!!
They were hosting championships in volleyball, soccer, and lacrosse at the same time, and there was ample parking.
They have two large football fields, the biggest has seating similar to a small college. Turf.
The volleyball venue was as big as Robert Morris' excellent facility.
I commented on how a HS can afford those kind of athletic facilities, but that HS is HUGE!!
Very easy access from the turnpike, and plenty of places to stay and eat.
There was nothing redneck or rural about the place at all.
As usual, SMF is barking up the wrong tree, but par for the course.
 
Was just at this HS campus when the granddaughter's team won the PIAA volleyball title.
That place is impressive!!
They were hosting championships in volleyball, soccer, and lacrosse at the same time, and there was ample parking.
They have two large football fields, the biggest has seating similar to a small college. Turf.
The volleyball venue was as big as Robert Morris' excellent facility.
I commented on how a HS can afford those kind of athletic facilities, but that HS is HUGE!!
Very easy access from the turnpike, and plenty of places to stay and eat.
There was nothing redneck or rural about the place at all.
As usual, SMF is barking up the wrong tree, but par for the course.

Why is PA the only major football playing state playing their games at a HS? If it was such a great idea, why do these states waste so much money playing at NFL or college venues?
 
Why is PA the only major football playing state playing their games at a HS? If it was such a great idea, why do these states waste so much money playing at NFL or college venues?
Probably $$ related.
The facilities at this HS are great. Better than a lot of small colleges and very accessible for anyone traveling east/west or even N/S with I-81.

If you're playing a game on a state of the art turf field with huge grandstands, ample parking, and easy access and good housing/eating establishments in proximity, what's the problem??

Silly outrage!
 
A couple of other insane yet salient thoughts.

1) Going to 6 classifications really complicates the championship scenes, both for WPIAL and the PIAA. 4 is perfect. 6 is impossible to not just play in the same day, but at optimum times.

2) I read this somewhere this morning. Pennsylvania is supposed to be this "football crazed" state. And yet the State Championships are broadcast on some obscure cable access channel that has to pre empt Wayne and Garth's Waynes World shoe to broadcast it with horrible production and announcers. Sort of piggybacking on to SMF's complaints about the WPIAL Championships.

There are alot of entities with lots of money who can make this happen. If they could put up $1 million to entice a football player to go to his CEO's favorite school without any revenue being generated, then they can help fund this endeavour.

3) I think the fact that while Harrisburg is central, the state capital and accessible, the fact there is no large civic stadium (like a Mansion Park in Altoona) or a decent sized college in the Harrisburg area with acceptable facilities really forces the PIAA to struggle to come up with venues that makes sense.

4) Or here is something novel, renovate the facilities at Hershey?
 
A couple of other insane yet salient thoughts.

1) Going to 6 classifications really complicates the championship scenes, both for WPIAL and the PIAA. 4 is perfect. 6 is impossible to not just play in the same day, but at optimum times.

2) I read this somewhere this morning. Pennsylvania is supposed to be this "football crazed" state. And yet the State Championships are broadcast on some obscure cable access channel that has to pre empt Wayne and Garth's Waynes World shoe to broadcast it with horrible production and announcers. Sort of piggybacking on to SMF's complaints about the WPIAL Championships.

There are alot of entities with lots of money who can make this happen. If they could put up $1 million to entice a football player to go to his CEO's favorite school without any revenue being generated, then they can help fund this endeavour.

3) I think the fact that while Harrisburg is central, the state capital and accessible, the fact there is no large civic stadium (like a Mansion Park in Altoona) or a decent sized college in the Harrisburg area with acceptable facilities really forces the PIAA to struggle to come up with venues that makes sense.

4) Or here is something novel, renovate the facilities at Hershey?
1. Five classifications feels like the ideal number, but maybe that's because I'm WPIAL-centric.

2. The total attendance of the state championship games is decreasing. The WPIAL championship attendance for 1A-4A was under 10,000 total. I don't believe attendance figures were released for the 5A and 6A games at Norwin, but I can at least say the 5A game was pretty well attended.

I understand it requires some advanced planning, but West Mifflin, despite being a traffic nightmare, was a fantastic site for Westinghouse-Steel Valley. It was close to both schools and a near sellout. It feels like whichever class has to play a WPIAL title outside of Heinz Field, maybe choose a neutral site to increase the crowd size.

3. Not only are the games on PCN, it looks like it's filmed in 1990 and some of the announcers sound like they'd rather be doing anything else. Trib HSSN does a much better job broadcasting games.

4. Hershey does have that destination type feel to it for the state title games. For football, playing in a high school stadium does feel lame, but it appeared at least a couple of the games the stadium was only half full. The 4A game was the only one I got a chance to watch that looked packed. So in terms of atmosphere, a smaller stadium makes sense. In terms of feeling like a big game, literally anywhere else would feel bigger than a high school stadium. If Pitt had their own place, I'd donate it for the PIAA championships just to get some of the best programs in the state on campus every year.
 
1. Five classifications feels like the ideal number, but maybe that's because I'm WPIAL-centric.

2. The total attendance of the state championship games is decreasing. The WPIAL championship attendance for 1A-4A was under 10,000 total. I don't believe attendance figures were released for the 5A and 6A games at Norwin, but I can at least say the 5A game was pretty well attended.

I understand it requires some advanced planning, but West Mifflin, despite being a traffic nightmare, was a fantastic site for Westinghouse-Steel Valley. It was close to both schools and a near sellout. It feels like whichever class has to play a WPIAL title outside of Heinz Field, maybe choose a neutral site to increase the crowd size.

3. Not only are the games on PCN, it looks like it's filmed in 1990 and some of the announcers sound like they'd rather be doing anything else. Trib HSSN does a much better job broadcasting games.

4. Hershey does have that destination type feel to it for the state title games. For football, playing in a high school stadium does feel lame, but it appeared at least a couple of the games the stadium was only half full. The 4A game was the only one I got a chance to watch that looked packed. So in terms of atmosphere, a smaller stadium makes sense. In terms of feeling like a big game, literally anywhere else would feel bigger than a high school stadium. If Pitt had their own place, I'd donate it for the PIAA championships just to get some of the best programs in the state on campus every year.


I would say if they have to play it at a high school, they should play it at a HS centrally located to each team. Cumberland Valley isnt special. Its no reward for players. So Harrisburg area teams shouldnt get a home game. Cumberland Valley works for Philly/Pgh games. But Pgh/Hbg games should be in Altoona or Johnstown's minor league baseball stadium. Philly/Hbg matchups should be in the Reading area.
 
Sweet How long til the homelessness and Murders Start. Thats when you are big time when some young males jump out of a car and start shooting in the middle of the day!!!
Carlisle is county seat of Cumberland county, plenty homelessness, and been 3-4 shootings in past 2 weeks, it’s
here already , much of western Cumberland past Carlisle is still very rural and sparsely populated. The eastern half is like route 19, route 51, McKnight road type areas
 
Carlisle is county seat of Cumberland county, plenty homelessness, and been 3-4 shootings in past 2 weeks, it’s
here already , much of western Cumberland past Carlisle is still very rural and sparsely populated. The eastern half is like route 19, route 51, McKnight road type areas
Carlisle has less homelessness than most towns-only reason it has any is because Salvation Army is here to feed and clothe them. Also,1 shooting in last month. Carlisle is rated one of the great small towns in America.
 
Carlisle is county seat of Cumberland county, plenty homelessness, and been 3-4 shootings in past 2 weeks, it’s
here already , much of western Cumberland past Carlisle is still very rural and sparsely populated. The eastern half is like route 19, route 51, McKnight road type areas
Congrats. With hardwork I’m sure you can pump those shooting numbers up 8/10 shootings per 2 weeks…
 
I would say if they have to play it at a high school, they should play it at a HS centrally located to each team. Cumberland Valley isnt special. It’s no reward for players. So Harrisburg area teams shouldnt get a home game. Cumberland Valley works for Philly/Pgh games. But Pgh/Hbg games should be in Altoona or Johnstown's minor league baseball stadium. Philly/Hbg matchups should be in the Reading area.
I’d probably rather play on Pitt’s former practice field at UPJ
 
Up by Dickinson last week by cherry street laundry
east north street the week before
There was another one too
ask Michael Baltimore barber killer

go check out the park behind giant
I have
 
Why do lockerrooms need renovated for a single game?
Sheesh
It not just one game. It the home field for both Hershey and Lower Dauphin high schools. They host the district 3 championships there also along with playoff games. So if they hosted the PIAA championships it could potentially host close to 30 games a year.
 
Baltimore was 3 years ago. I know about behind Giant better than you. Also “tool”?—little testy aren’t you? By the way,if it is so bad,why do you live there?
 
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